Have you learned what the "soul" REALLY is, yet?

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is this what you think the gospel means?

by the way the pouring out of the spirit was on the 120 people present not the deciples they received the Holy Spirit at the evening dinner after the resurrection, thomas was a little after the first dinner.

I was asking you what you think "NEWS" is.
 

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6th Time: What do you think the "Gospel' is?
I've told you twice already.. It is the good news concerning Jesus the godman, who is eternally God, one with the Father and Holy Spirit. Who took on flesh, was crucified for the sins of the world, he paid the debt of sin and took God's wrath upon Himself, for the sake of His children, He rose from the dead on the third day (defeating death) and now sits at the right hand of the Father with the crown of Glory.. because he rose from the dead so will we.

Now you have no need to critique the above we all know you don't believe it.. now again where is your hope, since even in paradise you can be annihilated for sin..

So there is no eternal soul (whatever you think that means) how can you be in paradise? Because once you die in your religion you will cease to exist annihilated?

How did the archangel become jesus in the flesh or did he?

Please give us an answer, its bang on topic.
 
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I've told you twice already.. It is the good news concerning Jesus the godman, who is eternally God, one with the Father and Holy Spirit. Who took on flesh, was crucified for the sins of the world, he paid the debt of sin and took God's wrath upon Himself, for the sake of His children, He rose from the dead on the third day (defeating death) and now sits at the right hand of the Father with the crown of Glory.. because he rose from the dead so will we.

Now you have no need to critique the above we all know you don't believe it.. now again where is your hope, since even in paradise you can be annihilated for sin..


THANK YOU!
One question about this, then I will answer yours: How did he, as you just said RISE FROM THE DEAD...if he was never dead?
 

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THANK YOU!
One question about this, then I will answer yours: How did he, as you just said RISE FROM THE DEAD...if he was never dead?
Hi thequestion,

You would answer my question, in fact you you kept ignoring my posts and said 'what is the gospel' and when i did it still isnt enough for you. I said above in my post not ask about it as you dont believe it, so won't you answer some simple questions about your.. I am assuming that you have the answers even if its just from watchtower publications? Surely your not on here just tor troll, are you to be a good publisher?

So could you answer the below:

So there is no eternal soul (whatever you think that means) how can you be in paradise? Because once you die in your religion you will cease to exist annihilated?

How did the archangel become jesus in the flesh or did he?

Please give us an answer, its bang on topic.
 
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The JW's don't have any good news, because even in paradise there is the possibility that one may sin and be annihilated. They are without any real hope of salvation in their religion.
i wonder why the jehovah's falsewitnesses do so much work when there is so little to gain for em? even if they were right, we're all just gonna be not-existing so thats cool.
 
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i wonder why the jehovah's falsewitnesses do so much work when there is so little to gain for em? even if they were right, we're all just gonna be not-existing so thats cool.
So, you believe in the Trinity- but not the Resurrection spoke of by Daniel?
 

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The JW's don't have any good news, because even in paradise there is the possibility that one may sin and be annihilated. They are without any real hope of salvation in their religion.
Exactly.

If you're not numbered with the 144,000 you're basically toast.

Factoring in how many people have existed since Adam and Eve you would have better odds winning Powerball than being one of the elite chosen few.
 
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No. I AM a soul, as we all are.
Sort of you have a soul within your fleshly body, you will no doubt loose your flesh, yet you can loose your soul as well and your soul can become the property of something that would not be very pleasing at all. if you know want I mean.
 
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phil36;
1- So there is no eternal soul (whatever you think that means) how can you be in paradise? Because once you die in your religion you will cease to exist annihilated?

By Resurrection, Annihilation is the 2nd Death, pictured by the "Lake of Fire".

2-How did the archangel become jesus in the flesh or did he?

Simple. Jesus is God's Greatest Messenger. Becoming a man didn't change that.





YOUR turn: How did he, as you just said, RISE FROM THE DEAD...if he was never dead?



 

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phil36;
1- So there is no eternal soul (whatever you think that means) how can you be in paradise? Because once you die in your religion you will cease to exist annihilated?

By Resurrection, Annihilation is the 2nd Death, pictured by the "Lake of Fire".

2-How did the archangel become jesus in the flesh or did he?

Simple. Jesus is God's Greatest Messenger. Becoming a man didn't change that.



YOUR turn: How did he, as you just said, RISE FROM THE DEAD...if he was never dead?




Ah, interesting. What do you mean by Resurrection? Do you as a person cease to exist when you die - cease to exist? and if so how can you then go to paradise, or are you recreated/incarnated from gods memory of you?

And you didn't really answer the question:

2-How did the archangel become jesus in the flesh or did he?

Simple. Jesus is God's Greatest Messenger. Becoming a man didn't change that.


Did the the archangel take on flesh, or did he cease to exist at that time? When jesus died on the cross, did he shed his flesh and take on the mantle of an Archangel or did he cease to exist?




 
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Exactly.

If you're not numbered with the 144,000 you're basically toast.

Factoring in how many people have existed since Adam and Eve you would have better odds winning Powerball than being one of the elite chosen few.

What your churches teach you is even worse than I thought!
You know nothing about the Bible yet think you know ALL.
Out of curiosity- what do YOU think the reference to 144.000 means?
 

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What your churches teach you is even worse than I thought!
You know nothing about the Bible yet think you know ALL.
Out of curiosity- what do YOU think the reference to 144.000 means?

Out of curiosity what does your church teach about the 144,000?
 
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Ah, interesting. What do you mean by Resurrection? Do you as a person cease to exist when you die - cease to exist? and if so how can you then go to paradise, or are you recreated/incarnated from gods memory of you?

And you didn't really answer the question:

Did the the archangel take on flesh, or did he cease to exist at that time? When jesus died on the cross, did he shed his flesh and take on the mantle of an Archangel or did he cease to exist?
Refreshing to have Peaceful Conversation with you, Phil!
You honestly don't understand what RESURRECTION means?
Do you know what REINCARNATION means?
What 'mantle' do you refer to.

Jesus was God's son, His Word, the Leader of the Messengers (Archangel) before he became a man.
That didn't change when he was.

AGAIN: HOW did Jesus "Rise form the Dead" as you stated- if he NEVER DIED?
 

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Refreshing to have Peaceful Conversation with you, Phil!
You honestly don't understand what RESURRECTION means?
Do you know what REINCARNATION means?
What 'mantle' do you refer to.

Jesus was God's son, His Word, the Leader of the Messengers (Archangel) before he became a man.
That didn't change when he was.

AGAIN: HOW did Jesus "Rise form the Dead" as you stated- if he NEVER DIED?


Hi thequestiontime,

I don't understand what you mean by resurrection, could you explain. Many thanks?


Your answer below is kind of confusing:

Jesus was God's son, His Word, the Leader of the Messengers (Archangel) before he became a man.
That didn't change when he was.
But I didn't ask that, I asked as Michael the Archangel, did he take on flesh. Did the archangel become born of a virgin. Or did he cease to exist. Did jesus as flesh cease to exist when he died on the cross? and was the Archangel created again into existence.?



These are important question and I hope you answer them.