Hebrews 6 & 10 DO NOT speak to "losing your salvation"....read on!

[HatedForNoReason]

He said:
"If i am a saved harlot. Well that would get me a warm lake"

Seems to me he was thinking the lake of fire, but in a less hot area. He has posted his belief that salvation can be lost.

Salvation can't be lost. Only God's elects can receive the Holy Spirit.

 

[Gideon300]

Ephesians 1:13-14
New King James Version

13 In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who[a] is the [b]guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Holy-Spirit-seal.html

After God gave me the Holy Spirit, by read the 10 commandments, I found proof that TV, movies, watching sports (violence like football, covet their lives and they are idols), novels, music, video games and computer games are all sins, except Christian stuff that don’t have sins like sermons and Christian music words that gives messages which are rare.

I found out that in them there is lying, stealing, adultery (Matthew 5:28 looking at someone with lust is adultery), fornication which is sex before marriage, revenge, violence (Psalm 11:5), murder (hate is also murder 1 John 3:15), jealousy/covet, greed, pride=self-pity, hypocrisy, using God’s name in vain as a curse word, they are all idols (breaks 2nd Commandment) because most people can’t live without them and they love them more than God and more. Just read the 10 commandments for a list. You must remove those sources of sin.

1 John 2:15 King James Version (KJV)
15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 New King James Version
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, 10 nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God.

Now I will be preaching about how to receive the Holy Spirit and be 100% going to Heaven.

First, it’s only by the grace of God that he gives you faith in Jesus Christ in order to give up your sins. It’s only by the grace of God that he leads you to pray to him to destroy all your evil desires of watching TV or any sinful desires. When you pray to God to destroy all your evil desires of watching TV or sinful desires (Romans 6:6-7 and Galatians 5:24), Satan will intervene and extremely tempt you in watching the TV. But if it’s God’s will and if you are one of God’s elects, you will overcome it and God will destroy all your evil desires of watching TV. After God has destroyed all your evil desires of watching TV and if you are one of God’s elects, you receive the joy of the Holy Spirit for a short amount of time. After the joy wears off, all existence of boredom no longer exists and you no longer burn out (psychology) anymore. That is when you have received the Holy Spirit.

Then it’s by the grace of God that he forgives you of your sins, as you confess and repent of your sins (confess and not do those sins anymore) throughout your life which is called sanctification.

After you have received the Holy Spirit and have confessed and repented of any known sins that you have done, then you pray to God to get rid of all evil spirits out of you.

Say “In the name of Jesus Christ I bind and cast out all evil spirits out of me.” Then automatically your mouth will open and you will exhale all those evil spirits out of you.

When you sin, demons have the legal right to enter your body and you have less self-control in what you do.

The Holy Spirit is the permanent cure to boredom but it is only given to God’s elects. (Proof: John 14:26-27 and Philippians 4:7)
The Holy Spirit also gives the fruit of the spirit.(Galatians 5:22-24)

Ephesians 2:8-9 King James Version (KJV)

8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Youtube: Avoid: The First Step to Defeating Lust // Six Steps to Defeating Sexual Sin

Youtube: Unreserved love and We Are The Reason

Read James 4:4, Proverbs 29:27, 2 Corinthians 6:14-17

Just so you know Jesus had to carry all of God’s elects sins and endure the punishment for God’s elects sins which is Hellfire spiritually, which is extreme love and mercy. Go to the bottom website, for better explanation.

https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/jesus-eternal-punishment-hours/

https://www.gotquestions.org/calvinism.html

Love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. Does disobeying God by sinning show your love for God?

1 John 5:3
King James Version

3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

Also its the grace of God that God's elect have the power to remove all those sources of sin from their lives.

Nonelects have made a bunch of false gospels that don't mention about how to receive the Real Holy Spirit since they have never experienced it before.

I am not against the gift of the Holy Spirit. I am against the idea that the Holy Spirit has replaced Lord Jesus, as has been touted by some. It was not the Holy Spirit on the cross, dying for the sins of the world. Once a person is born again, Lord Jesus comes to live in them in the Person of His Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit always points to Lord Jesus, as is made clear in John 16. If what you are hearing is not pointing to Christ, if what you are seeing is not glorifying Christ, then it is not the Holy Spirit.

I was baptised in the Holy Spirit Christmas Eve 1974. It took me three years to accept that it was a gift for all Christians to receive. My problem was with the false teachings of some Pentecostals, especially the spiritual pride that I saw in too many.

If you are looking to avoid all exposure to sinful ways, cutting out TV is not enough. You will have to become a recluse. I see and hear stuff in my local shopping centre that used to be outlawed in public. We are in the world, not of it. We overcome the world, we do not let the world overcome us. Temptation is not sin. Giving in is sin.

 

[HatedForNoReason]

I am not against the gift of the Holy Spirit. I am against the idea that the Holy Spirit has replaced Lord Jesus, as has been touted by some. It was not the Holy Spirit on the cross, dying for the sins of the world. Once a person is born again, Lord Jesus comes to live in them in the Person of His Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit always points to Lord Jesus, as is made clear in John 16. If what you are hearing is not pointing to Christ, if what you are seeing is not glorifying Christ, then it is not the Holy Spirit.

I was baptised in the Holy Spirit Christmas Eve 1974. It took me three years to accept that it was a gift for all Christians to receive. My problem was with the false teachings of some Pentecostals, especially the spiritual pride that I saw in too many.

If you are looking to avoid all exposure to sinful ways, cutting out TV is not enough. You will have to become a recluse. I see and hear stuff in my local shopping centre that used to be outlawed in public. We are in the world, not of it. We overcome the world, we do not let the world overcome us. Temptation is not sin. Giving in is sin.

I have been a recluse since I was born and had very few friends.
The reason why am hated for no reason since I were physically born and never fit in no matter how hard I tried is because am one of God’s elects. (John 15:18-19)

John 15:18-19
King James Version

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

After God gave me the Holy Spirit, God led me to cut off the nonelect friends. My soul was troubled being around them.
Read James 4:4, Proverbs 29:27, 2 Corinthians 6:14-17 that talks about separating from nonelect friends that influence you to sin.

God called God's elects out of the world to be holy as God is holy. Ex: Jeremiah, Elijah and more.

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
He has posted his belief that salvation can be lost.

I myself believe that apostacy is possible, but only when one permanently refuses to repent after hardening their heart toward their first love (God). I belief that many passages allude to this happening in the last days...

I can't find any verses that teach that apostacy results in loss of salvation.

Hebrews
6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.
6:7 For the earth which drinketh in the rain that cometh oft upon it, and bringeth forth herbs meet for them by whom it is dressed, receiveth blessing from God:
6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers [is] rejected, and [is] nigh unto cursing; whose end [is] to be burned.

Hebrews
10:23 Let us hold fast the profession of [our] faith without wavering; (for he [is] faithful that promised
10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
10:25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.
10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?
10:30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance [belongeth] unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

Where do you read about salvation being lost here?

 

[oyster67]

Where do you read about salvation being lost here?

Hebrews
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

 

[FreeGrace2]

FreeGrace2 said:
Where do you read about salvation being lost here?

Hebrews
10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

The bolded words refer to God's discipline of His disobedient children which includes physical death.

10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

Go back and read about Moses' law. The word "died" here is a clear reference to physical death.

10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

Again, nothing about losing salvation. In fact, salvation isn't even mentioned.

You should have included v.26.
26 If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left,

What do you think this verse means? Loss of salvation. No, it doesn't.

Let's go back a few verses, for context:
12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,

This refers to Christ's sacrifice for the sins of humanity.

17 Then he adds: “Their sins and lawless acts I will remember no more.”
18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.

v.18 is directly the result of Christ's sacrifice. As a result, there is NO NECESSITY for any further sacrifice. Christ did it all.

So, v.26 is simply a restatement of v.18. The key in v.26 is the word "deliberately". Intentional sin results in v.27-29, or God's discipline.

That's the point.

 

[oyster67]

God's discipline of His disobedient children which includes physical death.

Behold the hoops that OSASers must jump through to prop up their bungled belief system. Did you beat your child to death last time you chastised him? (I guess that was the last time you chastised him).