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Well, it seems the thread monitors (Stephen63 and Chris1975) are trying to inhibit the speech of those with whom they disagree.

Stephen63, do you perform your google searches to find duplications in Chris1975 posts? I've seen duplications in posts submitted by Chris1975 in various threads without reading into it. I've seen you repeat what you've posted and don't scurry around trying to point fingers at you for repeating what you've posted.

Let the monitors of the forum do their job. They are more than capable of notifying the members if/when they believe there is an issue.
 
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Well, it seems the thread monitors (Stephen63 and Chris1975) are trying to inhibit the speech of those with whom they disagree.

Stephen63, do you perform your google searches to find duplications in Chris1975 posts? I've seen duplications in posts submitted by Chris1975 in various threads without reading into it. I've seen you repeat what you've posted and don't scurry around trying to point fingers at you for repeating what you've posted.

Let the monitors of the forum do their job. They are more than capable of notifying the members if/when they believe there is an issue.
Whenever I see a post like this, I know there's a member here that would take up for their buddies if they were selling poop in a box & calling it candy.

It doesn't matter if what you say is correct, they will fight for their pack.:rolleyes:
 
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Whenever I see a post like this, I know there's a member here that would take up for their buddies if they were selling poop in a box & calling it candy.

It doesn't matter if what you say is correct, they will fight for their pack.:rolleyes:
I notice you avoid answering the question as to how many times have you searched google to find if those with whom you agree have duplicated their posts.

Very telling and points your fingers at yourself concerning the accusation in your last comment ...

Hope/pray you have a very blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Stephen63.:cool:
 

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I notice you avoid answering the question as to how many times have you searched google to find if those with whom you agree have duplicated their posts.

Very telling and points your fingers at yourself concerning the accusation in your last comment ...

Hope/pray you have a very blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Stephen63.:cool:
It's ok sister. Let not your heart be troubled. Have a blessed day!
 
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I notice you avoid answering the question as to how many times have you searched google to find if those with whom you agree have duplicated their posts.

Very telling and points your fingers at yourself concerning the accusation in your last comment ...

Hope/pray you have a very blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Stephen63.:cool:
Sorry, I don't listen much to people whose only ability is to psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty.;)
 

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I did a Google search on "In verse 39, the author sets up the contrast that makes it clear to me that he was referring to unbelievers, not saved people: But we are not of ...", & found you have been duplicating this over & over since 2012!

What gives?!?


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What do you mean what gives? Why would I write something different each time? Why would that even matter to you? It took time for me to do my homework and study these matters out, but once I have thoroughly studied this matter out here in Hebrews 10 and have my answers, why would I need to change up my answers each time? The truth does not have versions. Do you have nothing better to do than trash people who disagree with you? :rolleyes:
 

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There's a biiig difference between loving reminders & mechanical repetitions that have no heart.

Six years worth of repetition on three different sites is more of establishing a reputation of knowledge instead of being caring..... sheesh.
Mechanical repetitions that have no heart? You don't know my heart, but God does, so don't even go there. It's above your pay grade. What does all of your trash talk say about your heart? Your nasty comments are getting really old. Do you consider consistently trashing others being the demonstrative evidence of caring heart? sheesh indeed! :rolleyes:
 

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And the problem with copy pasting these repetitions is that they are no longer able to learn. Everything going forward is filtered through this "final authority on established knowledge" - their works, their essays.

Instead, what should happen instead is allow the Bible to be the established word, and everything filtered through this. If the Holy Spirit wants to show you a deeper understanding, it can only be done in going into the word itself (bible) and not dead interpretations.

They run a risk of becoming an old wine-skin. After a while it will not accept the new wine.
More judgmental, mean spirited trash talk. :rolleyes: Just as I told your friend Stephen63, you don't know my heart, but God does. I find it interesting that whenever someone has no proper rebuttal to your argument, they instead set out to attack your character. The sword of the Spirit hurts when it cuts! Which explains why you and your friend lashed out at me the way you did. Truly sad. :(
 

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I notice you avoid answering the question as to how many times have you searched google to find if those with whom you agree have duplicated their posts.

Very telling and points your fingers at yourself concerning the accusation in your last comment ...

Hope/pray you have a very blessed day in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, Stephen63.:cool:
Amen to that! His true colors are really showing. :eek:
 
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Mechanical repetitions that have no heart? You don't know my heart, but God does, so don't even go there. It's above your pay grade. What does all of your trash talk say about your heart? Your nasty comments are getting really old. Do you consider consistently trashing others being the demonstrative evidence of caring heart? sheesh indeed! :rolleyes:
I was gonna leave this alone, but since you were so insistant, I did another search from that post for "After Jesus’ teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples . . . said,"

Here's my findings:
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Apr 12, 2006 - But in John 6:37 Jesus uses virtually identical terminology and says, “All that ... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

Just curious if you wrote that one or not. I'd say not.

Here's some off that search that you "copied" from samstorms.com

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And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye ..... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

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You said " I mean, a person who has come into genuine salvation in Christ .... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

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He said they have six feet further to rise than anyone else so they rise first. ..... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

Yeah, I suppose copy/pasting like G777 isn't that much of a deal, but posting someone else's work as your own is. That's plagiarism.
:D;)
 

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I was gonna leave this alone, but since you were so insistant, I did another search from that post for "After Jesus’ teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples . . . said,"

Here's my findings:
36 results (0.62 seconds)

Sam Storms: Oklahoma City, OK > John 15:1-6 and the Security of the ...
www.samstorms.com/all-articles/post/john-15:1-6-and-the-security-of-the-believer
Apr 12, 2006 - But in John 6:37 Jesus uses virtually identical terminology and says, “All that ... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

Just curious if you wrote that one or not. I'd say not.

Here's some off that search that you "copied" from samstorms.com

Falling away from the Faith (it's possible) - Page 4 - Christian ...
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May 12, 2017 - 11 posts - ‎5 authors
And he said unto them, Know ye not this parable? and how then will ye ..... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

Just another OSAS thread - Page 5 - Christian Chat Rooms & Forums
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You said " I mean, a person who has come into genuine salvation in Christ .... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

What would happen if we died without confessing our sins? - Page 8 ...
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Feb 20, 2015 - 20 posts - ‎7 authors
1 John 1:6 - IF we SAY that we have fellowship with Him, and walk in .... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED, HYPER GRACE, ETERNAL SECURITY = FALSE ...
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He said they have six feet further to rise than anyone else so they rise first. ..... After Jesus' teaching we read in 6:60 that "many of his disciples ...

Yeah, I suppose copy/pasting like G777 isn't that much of a deal, but posting someone else's work as your own is. That's plagiarism.
:D;)
Like I said before, how many of us post arguments that at least some of it has not been said before in an article or commentary? Did I copy and paste his entire article and claim I wrote it? NO. I suppose you still have no rebuttal? :rolleyes:
 
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is this called 'brother-talk'? 'hit and run'? 'tear-down, not mend, just defend???

very sad to read such unkind, unprofitable words...
 

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The bitter and hateful attitude of certain "professing" Christians towards others on here is just unbelievable! If these certain people can't refute you, then they instead, attack you. :rolleyes:
 
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The bitter and hateful attitude of certain "professing" Christians towards others on here is just unbelievable! If these certain people can't refute you, then they instead, attack you. :rolleyes:
Its all they have, Modern day pharisee-ism at its best.

its why many in the world see christianity as a hate group, holier than thou self righteous group. and not th eloving group God sent the church out to be who drew people by being christ like.
 
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Say what you want, but the subject has came up several times in the past few years, & the consensus is always the same..... adding a paragraph written by somebody else without quoting them is plagiarism.

One cannot simply change the rule for "some people".
 
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Sorry, I don't listen much to people whose only ability is to psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty.;)
This is a skill some possess. Others take truthful observations of facts as insults
and slander if it makes their position look bad. If truth was defined on who looked
good or bad, we would be holy and pure and God would be the sinner.

I am always amazed at people not knowing God is the ultimate reference point. If
we do not agree with something, we have missed something fundamental in our
reading. It does make points a little difficult, but then that is what having the
privilege of talking to the creator of the universe, is a place we do need to know
where we stand, He is always right, and He is so very gracious, He will wait until
we have worked it out.

In this I am truly humbled, because I is way beyond me to be so humble, I can
only do this through His strength. He is such a King and Lord of all, Amen.