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But that's just it:
Why the need for a classroom setting with one designated, lest I say self-appointed, teacher?
I understand that the BDF is more like a war zone at times than a calm sharing environment, but why can't a group of people agree to discuss the epistle to the Hebrews civilly in the type of setting where everybody gets to share their own insights? Boundaries could be set in advance like no beating a dead horse. In other words, after a certain portion has been addressed in a back and forth manner two or three times, all parties should just agree to move on and leave any potential increase in the hands of God, the only One Who can give the increase anyway. Things like that. I'd be in on something like that, but this whole teacher/student approach just doesn't sit right with me regardless of who the teacher is. Ultimately, Christ is our head and we're all joints in the body which have something to contribute to the overall growth and wellbeing of the body, right? Why go against that principle?
Why the need for a classroom setting with one designated, lest I say self-appointed, teacher?
I understand that the BDF is more like a war zone at times than a calm sharing environment, but why can't a group of people agree to discuss the epistle to the Hebrews civilly in the type of setting where everybody gets to share their own insights? Boundaries could be set in advance like no beating a dead horse. In other words, after a certain portion has been addressed in a back and forth manner two or three times, all parties should just agree to move on and leave any potential increase in the hands of God, the only One Who can give the increase anyway. Things like that. I'd be in on something like that, but this whole teacher/student approach just doesn't sit right with me regardless of who the teacher is. Ultimately, Christ is our head and we're all joints in the body which have something to contribute to the overall growth and wellbeing of the body, right? Why go against that principle?
Well, I have been teaching this material for some thirty years and in many congregations. Since I retired from pulpit preaching I spend my time teaching specialty classes for other teachers, preachers, and elders. This is what I do. I just thought I would try to do a class on this site if anyone is interested. If not, that is fine. Please do not feel I am trying to sell you on something. If this becomes nothing more than a discussion group then there is simply no way we would ever finish this book. It is just to dense in the amount of material to cover. On the other hand, I am certainly not opposed some back and forth discussion if it can be limited as you say, to two or three times but, I do want to be able to move on with the study and not get bogged down.
Hi Oldhermit,
I'm not sure that becoming an 'online teacher' is a good thing, in the respect of a classroom setting. A couple of reasons came to me.
1. There is no accountability
2. there is no physical communion in hearing the taught word amongst believers, prayer and uplifting in a geographical/local sense
3. Christians are to put themselves under the authority of the church elders (or whatever way you church provides leadership), which takes us back to point 1! Can your 'students' know you, i mean can they watch your life and are you accountable to them or the authority you are under?
Please don't take this personally as I am sure you mean well.. However, I have serious reservations when someone sets themselves up as a 'teacher' without any sort of accountability.
I'm not sure that becoming an 'online teacher' is a good thing, in the respect of a classroom setting. A couple of reasons came to me.
1. There is no accountability
2. there is no physical communion in hearing the taught word amongst believers, prayer and uplifting in a geographical/local sense
3. Christians are to put themselves under the authority of the church elders (or whatever way you church provides leadership), which takes us back to point 1! Can your 'students' know you, i mean can they watch your life and are you accountable to them or the authority you are under?
Please don't take this personally as I am sure you mean well.. However, I have serious reservations when someone sets themselves up as a 'teacher' without any sort of accountability.
If the issue were a disagreement in fact; I would speak to him/her privately. If believers' faith were being challenged, I would be publicly confrontational.
While I don't expect you to challenge anyone's faith; I have put considerable effort into promoting and defending the ultimate authority of God's Word.
My concern is that an inadvertent misinterpretation of God's Word could appear to compromise that authority.
While I don't expect you to challenge anyone's faith; I have put considerable effort into promoting and defending the ultimate authority of God's Word.
My concern is that an inadvertent misinterpretation of God's Word could appear to compromise that authority.
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Sure, I'd look in on it. I've probably read the epistle to the Hebrews more than any other part of the Bible. I'm guessing somewhere between 20 and 30 times, possibly more, and it's obviously where I gleaned my username from. I'm pretty well versed in the epistle, but I'm sure that there is something that I could still learn from it. God's Word is deep and I don't think that we'll ever even come close to exhausting everything from it that we can on this side of eternity. It's like the more that I read, the more that I realize how little I actually know. It's very humbling and, quite frankly, somewhat terrifying.
On College campuses inacuracies were taught regularly. I won't speculate whether that was inadvertent or by design.
In any case, I was not responsible for keeping the content accurate. I was only responsible for earning a grade.
When peoples faith was being challenged, my ability to give an apologetic response, IMO, created the responsibility to do so.
Perhaps that clarifies my mindset.
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I have no problem with you leading this study. If I disagree I will PM you. I know you have put a lot of work into the study of Hebrews. While we may disagree in a few areas, I generally trust your exegesis that I have read.
If I find too much I don't agree with (and I don't think that will happen) I could always leave the group. I really hope a few others will get down off their high horses, so we can have a good group to study this book together. Ooops! Did I just say that?
Well, let me know what happens, OH!
If I find too much I don't agree with (and I don't think that will happen) I could always leave the group. I really hope a few others will get down off their high horses, so we can have a good group to study this book together. Ooops! Did I just say that?
Well, let me know what happens, OH!
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We're talking college level stuff. If you don't trust the teacher, you don't take the class.
Now, if you want to check out if you trust him, OH can certainly give you links to other teachings he gave on this site. (He's done it for me.) I don't necessarily agree with him all the time, but, man! Got to appreciate how much he's studied a subject he's ready to teach on.
The reason I stay on this site is that I have received some wise teachings from a handful of people. OH was the first one I learned from.
Now, if you want to check out if you trust him, OH can certainly give you links to other teachings he gave on this site. (He's done it for me.) I don't necessarily agree with him all the time, but, man! Got to appreciate how much he's studied a subject he's ready to teach on.
The reason I stay on this site is that I have received some wise teachings from a handful of people. OH was the first one I learned from.
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You teach at such a level that it takes me a while to study what you say, soak it in, think it over, and then absorb it. Knowing that, is there room for a question about something in chapter 1 when you're already on chapter 2? (I've really have lost a lot of my thinking ability. I can still think as well as I ever could. It just takes me twice as long to get there.)
