HELL

[StanJ]

Goodnight Stan. Don't forget to wear your toque tomorrow. Still pretty brisk up there in Canada eh? Just worried about your ears.

Your Canada knowledge is just as bad as your biblical knowledge.

 

[StanJ]

Hello Zmouth,I see that there is male ware that has spread through this forum, where the space bar is not working.

Read the red writing above the reply box. It is an issue with Chrome but if you hit return then back space when you see it stop working, it will free up the space bar.

 

[Zmouth]

Hello Zmouth,I see that there is male ware that has spread through this forum, where the space bar is not working. Scripture is clear that not all will be saved.

Well, maybe when you come to the knowledge of the truth you might see it his way?

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Tim 2:3-4,

Jesus made it clear that wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction. Which means that in the scale of things, there are more who are entering in through the broad gate than the narrow gate. Jesus spoke a lot regarding eternal punishment.

Since the eternal has no beginning nor end, then that which has a beginning can not be eternal nor can that which is eternal have a beginning. To claim that the eternal can have a beginning is liken to saying a good tree can produce evil fruit. Yet as written, "But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him." John 6:64

"...and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." 1 John 3:15

So if a murderer does not have eternal life abiding in him then wouldn't he have to be saved in order to obtain eternal life in order for your Lord to inflict eternal torment upon them seeing that they do not have eternal life?

23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13

 

[StanJ]

Well, maybe when you come to the knowledge of the truth you might see it his way?

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Tim 2:3-4,



Since the eternal has no beginning nor end, then that which has a beginning can not be eternal nor can that which is eternal have a beginning. To claim that the eternal can have a beginning is liken to saying a good tree can produce evil fruit. Yet as written, "But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him." John 6:64

"...and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." 1 John 3:15

So if a murderer does not have eternal life abiding in him then wouldn't he have to be saved in order to obtain eternal life in order for your Lord to inflict eternal torment upon them seeing that they do not have eternal life?

23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13

Already answered this so why is it you ignore the truth and repeat yourself?

 

[OneFaith]

Wasn't my motivation when receiving the truth, never even came up. I guess you can try and scare someone into the kingdom.

You can't scare someone into the kingdom, for the same reason people sin- the punishment for sin is not immediate. The shock wears off, and its back to what their heart chooses- God or Satan. Jesus explained the different soils (hearts) and how they will take to the seed (Word of God). No scare tactic is going to effect it. You can threaten soil with a hoe, but hard soil will still be hard soil, and soft soil will still be soft soil before the hoe comes down.

 

[OneFaith]

No one escapes torment. No one visits hell and comes back to the earth. Therefore, there are no haunting ghosts. Remember the rich man and Lazarus? The rich man begged to come back. The only ones who have come back are a very few selected Christians- such as Samuel, Moses, and Elijah.

 

[StanJ]

That is not what the Bible says about why Jesus came to save us.

"She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus,because he will save his people from their sins.” Matt 1:21

Exactly, because the wages of sin is death. Only Jesus's sacrifice could take away all sin all time.

 

[StanJ]

No one escapes torment. No one visits hell and comes back to the earth. Therefore, there are no haunting ghosts. Remember the rich man and Lazarus? The rich man begged to come back. The only ones who have come back are a very few selected Christians- such as Samuel, Moses, and Elijah.

Actually Lazarus did in John 11. The two that had not died are Enoch and Elijah.

 

[Sirk]

Are you actually Christian or just a troll here?

You mad Stan? Funny how close Stan is to satan. It's only one letter off. Are you Satan in disguise Stan?

 

[Sirk]

You are absolutely right except those same people keep trying. You really should stop while you're ahead.

Im not just a head. I'm a whole person.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Fear is the beginning of wisdom. Don't rest there. Move to apprehend His great love for you.

He died for you out of His great love for you. Perfect love casts out fear

Hello Magenta,

I am very aware of God's love. But it does not detract from the fact that Hades and the lake of fire are real places and though I know you don't believe what God's word plainly states regarding eternal punishment, scripture is very clear on this subject. I don't fear punishment now and that because believe in His Son and have been reconciled to him.

For anyone who is not in Christ, they are already on that broad road that leads to destruction (complete loss of well being).

 

[FreeNChrist]

“Hell is truth known too late” - Peter Kreeft

 

[Sirk]

Your Canada knowledge is just as bad as your biblical knowledge.

Oh settle down you hoser.

 

[samuel23]

Like shinning a light into the dark barn and watching the rats scatter. What a conglomeration of arrogant posts, Jesus taught more on hell then on heaven and he went into detail about it. Every single person in this forum(if they are really saved) was once headed for hell. You have no problems in this life compared to hell, hell is a place of nothing but pain and you never ever experience any kind of pleasure again. God spoke to me at my salvation experience and told me that in my present condition I was headed for hell, I was not quite 14 years of age. The problem of the human race is that it is one heart beat away from hell, all other problems are tiny in comparison. There is no doubt in my mind that those who make light of hell will probably end up there, our God is a consuming fire...some need to think on that.

 

[PrynceNY]

No one escapes torment. No one visits hell and comes back to the earth. Therefore, there are no haunting ghosts. Remember the rich man and Lazarus? The rich man begged to come back. The only ones who have come back are a very few selected Christians- such as Samuel, Moses, and Elijah.

Well technically there are people who still currently receive visions where they visited Hell. But as far as hell being the final judgement of a soul yea no one escapes that. As far as ghost they are only demons in disguise.

 

[JesusRules1]

Those people did not have a vision of hell from God,for if God wanted us to know about hell in detail,He would of had it in the Bible,like John gave us a revelation of heaven.

The Bible told us all we need to know about hell,it is dark and hot,and what detail is there to know for it is dark and hot.

Jesus said if they do not hear the word of God they will not believe if one rose from the dead and told them,why does there have to be people writing books about hell,when the Bible tells us it is hot and dark,should that not be enough for them to fear and do right,and believe the truth to escape hell.

 

[Ahwatukee]

Well, maybe when you come to the knowledge of the truth you might see it his way?

3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour;
4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Tim 2:3-4,



Since the eternal has no beginning nor end, then that which has a beginning can not be eternal nor can that which is eternal have a beginning. To claim that the eternal can have a beginning is liken to saying a good tree can produce evil fruit. Yet as written, "But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were that believed not, and who should betray him." John 6:64

"...and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him." 1 John 3:15

So if a murderer does not have eternal life abiding in him then wouldn't he have to be saved in order to obtain eternal life in order for your Lord to inflict eternal torment upon them seeing that they do not have eternal life?

23 Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
Luke 13

It would be a good thing if everyone was saved, but scripture is clear that that is not going to be the case. The scripture that I provided specifying the two roads demonstrates this truth. Whoever has the Son has life. Whoever does not have the Son does not have life. Not everyone has excepted the Son.

 

[Willie-T]

It would be a good thing if everyone was saved, but scripture is clear that that is not going to be the case. The scripture that I provided specifying the two roads demonstrates this truth. Whoever has the Son has life. Whoever does not have the Son does not have life. Not everyone has excepted the Son.

Thank God! What a horrible thing to 'except' the only hope you have right out of your life. LOL (Some of our school teachers must be turning over in their graves over the misuse of that word.) It's happened so many times in this one thread, alone.

 

[Sirk]

Thank God! What a horrible thing to 'except' the only hope you have right out of your life. LOL (Some of our school teacher must be turning over in their graves over the misuse of that word.) It's happened so many times in this one thread, alone.

Are there any acceptions?

 

[PrynceNY]

Those people did not have a vision of hell from God,for if God wanted us to know about hell in detail,He would of had it in the Bible,like John gave us a revelation of heaven. The Bible told us all we need to know about hell,it is dark and hot,and what detail is there to know for it is dark and hot. Jesus said if they do not hear the word of God they will not believe if one rose from the dead and told them,why does there have to be people writing books about hell,when the Bible tells us it is hot and dark,should that not be enough for them to fear and do right,and believe the truth to escape hell.

There are accounts of people being taken to Hell given personal warnings & told to warn others. If you are sceptical about it that's your choice however if you proclaim it as false & in fact God did give them those visions then you are reliable to be judged. Not to mention the devil cannot give people visions nor take them anywhere spiritually.