Hello I think I have a problem about doctrine.

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Magenta

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What's the point of having unscented flowers? Flowers and fragrances go together.
Um... they are digital? .:unsure::LOL:. My Scripture panels most often proliferate with flowers .:D

Digital flowers have no scent LOL

She says after posting a panel with scant scentless flowers on it .:giggle:

I think she meant they are fake. Some people like the beauty of flowers but have allergies.
Flowers like lilies are too powerfully scented for me, this is true .:censored:

Plus lilies are deadly to cats, so I would never have them in my house for that reason, as well .:)
 

Cameron143

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Um... they are digital? .:unsure::LOL:. My Scripture panels most often proliferate with flowers .:D

Digital flowers have no scent LOL

She says after posting a panel with scant scentless flowers on it .:giggle:


Flowers like lilies are too powerfully scented for me, this is true .:censored:

Plus lilies are deadly to cats, so I would never have them in my house for that reason, as well .:)
I'll settle for half right.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Luke 4:32 KJV
And they were astonished at his doctrine: for his word was with power.
his word was with power


And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Genesis 1:3‭, ‬9‭, ‬11‭, ‬14‭-‬15 KJV

And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
Mark 4:39 KJV

And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.
John 11:43‭-‬44 KJV

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:17 KJV


And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.

And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:
Exodus 10:21‭-‬22 KJV

Faith can do amazing things if it's something God said to do and promised a result like that example










 

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his word was with power


And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.

And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years: and let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
Genesis 1:3‭, ‬9‭, ‬11‭, ‬14‭-‬15 KJV

And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still. And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm.
Mark 4:39 KJV

And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth. And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go.
John 11:43‭-‬44 KJV

So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Romans 10:17 KJV


And the LORD said unto Moses, Stretch out thine hand toward heaven, that there may be darkness over the land of Egypt, even darkness which may be felt.

And Moses stretched forth his hand toward heaven; and there was a thick darkness in all the land of Egypt three days:
Exodus 10:21‭-‬22 KJV

Faith can do amazing things if it's something God said to do and promised a result like that example
Isaiah 28:13 KJV
But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Isaiah 28:13 KJV
But the word of the Lord was unto them precept upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little; that they might go, and fall backward, and be broken, and snared, and taken.
The law and the prophets were until John:

since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Luke 16:16 KJV


Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
John 5:39‭-‬40 KJV

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
John 5:24 KJV
 

Underwhosewings

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The law and the prophets were until John:

since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.
Luke 16:16 KJV


Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.
John 5:39‭-‬40 KJV

Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
John 5:24 KJV
Jeremiah 20:9 KJV
Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Jeremiah 20:9 KJV
Then I said, I will not make mention of him, nor speak any more in his name. But his word was in mine heart as a burning fire shut up in my bones, and I was weary with forbearing, and I could not stay.
“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

Pilgrimshope

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This verse was very helpful for me to have more faith, not to lose heart, but to trust God fully. “He faileth not”
No one could lead me to Christ, but the word came constantly, and God opened my understanding.
Yes that’s what he does for all of us at the pace we can live up to but he won’t allow us to understand more than we can bear until we’re ready , it is one way he uses to keep us safe. And always learning and growing by thhe effectual power of his word and faith in our heart his word can change us it’s living and active to change this heart that leads us to sin

“For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness: all these evil things come from within, and defile the man.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:21-23‬ ‭

The word can do this is we hear and believe

“For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.”
‭‭Hebrews‬ ‭4:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 
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It is the Holy Spirit who shows Christians who are the wolves in sheep's clothing. So do you know sound Bible doctrine? If not, you need to get serious about (1) FIRSTLY getting to know sound Bible doctrine and (2) SECONDLY being able to recognize heretics and reject them.

It is because so many Christians do not know sound Bible doctrine that people like Joyce Meyer have raked in millions from poor, gullible Christians. Many churches today are failing to teach sound doctrine. Many pastors and preachers are not even well-grounded in the Word.
The trouble is, who decides which Christians are not grounded in scripture? You just do not see that you have decided we should follow you. You are no one's 'safety net'. You have zero clue about me and yet you think to give me advice I should follow.

smh And all because I do not share the same opinion with you about Joyce Meyers. But really, it goes deeper than that.
 
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Joyce Meyer will destroy you if she can. You had better beware.
A false prophetess who is easily debunked. A heretic. A scam artist.

The mature Christian knows exactly what she is and why.
Well, perhaps you and MacArthur can have a discussion on all of that one day.
 

oyster67

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It sure seems like I responded immediately to His grace and the presence of His Person.
This is the simple faithful obedience that saves. Many do reject the call of the Lord (Calvinist false doctrine maintains that one cannot reject salvation.) Receiving salvation is not a work, but it is a choice. Works should follow salvation as a fruit of it, but works can never merit salvation and are never the cause of it. My favorite passage on this is...

Ephesians 2:
8For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

The part about "not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: " means that we cannot merit our own salvation; it is made possible by God's precious gift of Jesus. Calvinists like to mutilate this and trick people into thinking that salvation is not available to them. They try to trick people into thinking that salvation is only "gifted" to a chosen few. We know that this gift is the atoning blood of Jesus and that it is available to whosoever will call upon the name of the Lord and receive it.
 

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Well, perhaps you and MacArthur can have a discussion on all of that one day.
Not so much. MacArthur is not my cup of tea. As I explained earlier.
 

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“Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the LORD of hosts. But who may abide the day of his coming? and who shall stand when he appeareth? for he is like a refiner's fire, and like fullers' soap:”
‭‭Malachi‬ ‭3:1-2‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭3:11‬ ‭KJV‬‬
Exodus 3:5 KJV
And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
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smh And all because I do not share the same opinion with you about Joyce Meyers. But really, it goes deeper than that.
If you love to support false teachers like Joyce Meyer (and that is not just my opinion but the opinion of many sound Christians) you too will be going off the rails sooner or later. Just make sure you send her a large donation to maintain her lavish lifestyle.
 

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Exodus 3:5 KJV
And he said, Draw not nigh hither: put off thy shoes from off thy feet, for the place whereon thou standest is holy ground.
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“Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any more, then we shall die.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:23-25‬ ‭
 

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“Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any more, then we shall die.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.”
‭‭Isaiah‬ ‭55:3‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬

“Heaven and earth shall pass away: but my words shall not pass away.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭13:31‬ ‭KJV‬‬

being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever. For All flesh is as grass, And all the glory of man as the flower of grass. The grass withereth, and the flower thereof falleth away: But the word of the Lord endureth for ever. And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you.”
‭‭1 Peter‬ ‭1:23-25‬ ‭
Joshua 5:13-15 KJV
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
[14] And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
[15] And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.

God can speak to us at anytime,
But can we show some outward humility and reverence.

Genesis 35:4 KJV
And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Joshua 5:13-15 KJV
And it came to pass, when Joshua was by Jericho, that he lifted up his eyes and looked, and, behold, there stood a man over against him with his sword drawn in his hand: and Joshua went unto him, and said unto him, Art thou for us, or for our adversaries?
[14] And he said, Nay; but as captain of the host of the Lord am I now come. And Joshua fell on his face to the earth, and did worship, and said unto him, What saith my lord unto his servant?
[15] And the captain of the Lord's host said unto Joshua, Loose thy shoe from off thy foot; for the place whereon thou standest is holy. And Joshua did so.

God can speak to us at anytime,
But can we show some outward humility and reverence.

Genesis 35:4 KJV
And they gave unto Jacob all the strange gods which were in their hand, and all their earrings which were in their ears; and Jacob hid them under the oak which was by Shechem.
“but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭2:17‬ ‭KJV‬‬


“And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭3:10-11‬ ‭

“Now therefore why should we die? for this great fire will consume us: if we hear the voice of the LORD our God any more, then we shall die.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭5:25‬ ‭KJV‬‬

The ot is based on Adams transgression and the death that results from
Mans sin

New Testament creates something better that draws man near to God not promising death but life to those who draw near to Jesus the nt saves us from death like the ot imputes it

“ come into me and live hear my word and live I forgive you now come near to me and live ect hesr my words folloe
Me and live ect v stay far away or die and fear hearing my words …

“Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”
‭‭John‬ ‭5:24‬ ‭KJV‬‬


We have two testaments that lead us to two entirely different mindsets
 
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Niki7

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If you love to support false teachers like Joyce Meyer (and that is not just my opinion but the opinion of many sound Christians) you too will be going off the rails sooner or later. Just make sure you send her a large donation to maintain her lavish lifestyle.
Actually I love Jesus. Do You love Jesus? If you do, perhaps you might stop making false accusations and snotty comments.

In other words, you big mature person, grow up. :giggle: