Help with situation- Somebody with codependency knowledge would be appreciated too.

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Angela53510

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It's angle eyes, its a nick name from when working at a hunting lodge playing pool horribly but still trying to see the angles. Not that it stuck, just used it here. The only thing my mother provides for me and provided over my first year (I've only been one year) of college was health insurance. Its not that I mooch off her or anything. I got diagnosed with depression from narcissistic abuse three days before college when I found out my boyfriend had been cheating on my throughout our whole three-year relationship and gave another girl a promise ring two months before he broke up with me that day. I've been to Christian classrooms and a pastor that has experience with counseling. I'm just clarifying this to show that I really needed it that year. I was in the hospital for a week and the bill would have been 20,000 but it came up to 1600, which is still a lot but I'm thankful. I've been working through things and I'm getting a lot better, but certain things trigger me into wondering if I can trust anyone, so then I can't focus on my work, and I'm on the edge of having a panic attack all that period. I've gone off medication against what I am told because I'm trying to get into a place where I can get by without good health insurance so I can pay it myself. She never used to use this over me before but now that I am dealing with this she does. Before she used to tell me I was selfish in high school for taking 250 bucks from her a month to pay for rent and utilities for my brother when I stayed with him. My father hasn't done anything at all to me, and I AM CHRISTIAN, bad things happen to Christians too. Look at Job. I don't know where my mother has decided to do this and say he did. And I have repented for anything that I see I have done, but that doesn't always take out the worldly consequences or challenges. Thank you for all the feedback so much, it has helped take in different points of views.
The minute I read your OP, I thought, "her mom is a narcissist!" And if you have to go to a hospital in patient because of narcissistic abuse, even as an adult, your mom should be paying for it!

The biggest thing you need to learn is boundaries. You would not be debating in your mind about lying about your father molesting you, if you had boundaries.

My suggestion is to read Boundaries, by Henry Cloud and John Townsend. They are both doctors, and biblical Christians. I would also check out Depleted's suggestion about getting on your father's medical to break free if your mother's manipulations.

Regarding "honouring" your mother. Notice that word is not obey. True, as a dependent child, Ephesians says to obey your parents.

"Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right.2 “Honor your father and mother” (this is the first commandment with a promise), 3 “that it may go well with you and that you may live long in the land.” 4 Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord." Eph. 6:1-4

However, you are not a child! So, rather than blind obedience, you need the think in terms of respect, not answering back harshly, but still maintaining your boundaries. And notice, even in the above verse, obedience for children comes with the codicil that the parent does not provoke the child to anger.

Needing a hospital stay, panic attacks, depression, are all symptoms of anger turned inward. Your mother is not a good parent, time to separate from her.

I do hate the American health care system! You would probably not even be posting here if you were Canadian, Australian,, British, etc. As an adult, you would have your own, free, universal health care! I know! I was able to walk away from an abusive home with a narcisstic mom when I was 17. And, I managed to complete a Bachelor's degree and teacher's certificate without my parents help after that. Mind you, Canadian tuition was much less in those days. And I had tuition repayment scholarships for high marks all the way through.

Anyway, you can do this!

PS I did reconcile with my parents, but never again did I let them manipulate or abuse me.
 
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Depleted

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Was not addressing you.

At first,I thought ' what a stupid post'

Then I saw it was you.

Carry on miss poison.
One thing about wilderness,keep your feet moving. Forgive everyone,don't blame others,get close to Jesus. He told me once,take care of my business and I will take care of yours.
Kind of reminds me of when Mom smoked and told me "Do as I say, not as I do." lol
 

EarnestQ

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See if you can find an evening or night job (security guard?) and go through college part time. No one says you have to graduate college in four years.
 

tourist

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Consider an enlistment in the armed forces to help pay for college. It used to be for each dollar you contribute to a college fund the government will match. Also, the Air Force has its own community college that you can attend online or in person that they well totally pay for. You can finish a 4 year enlistment with an associates degree and ample funds to pursue a 4 year degree. This is better that accumulating massive student debt that will cripple you financially. Also, you won't have to take your mom's money.
 

FlSnookman7

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As someone who has had to deal with abandonment issues myself I find that I drive myself crazy trying to "do right" by everyone. I am finding that it is better if I concentrate on myself and my relationship with God. Once I have that "vertical" relationship (God and myself) in good working order then and only then do my relationships with other people start to work out correctly. It is a process that I must work on each day but it is worth it in the end.

As far as paying for things in my life I find it is better to go without than be beholden to anyone, relatives included. If they see a need and offer to help I am very clear to let them know i'm grateful but I do not operate on a quid pro quo basis. I will always help them and anyone I can but it is done out of love with nothing expected in return.

As I age I am also finding out there is a very big difference between things I really need and things I simply want. God is giving me the wisdom to see that most of the true needs in my life are free and that He always provides the one's that are not free either by me working or by His own methods. I find when I trust in God instead of relying on people I am always taken care of.

Praying for you.
 

Aboundingjoy

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I'm sorry to hear that you are in such a bad situation. It's only natural to turn to your mom or dad when you are in trouble, but we learn quickly that they are not gods and can't be our savior. When it comes to expecting help from your mom, if she is willing to help, no strings attached, that's a great blessing. However, if you have to play games with her to get that help, especially if it harms anyone including your dad, I think it would be wise to walk away. She may have her own reasons for accusing your dad, but if you know that the charge is false, you have no reasons to even consider her request. God commands us against being a false witness. We are commanded to honor our parents, but we never do so by breaking God's command.

You seem like a great person who really wants to please your mom. But, there will be times to stand by your convictions even if it displeases your mom. Please don't let guilt or shame cause you to doubt your own choices. You are a unique individual separate from your mom. You are an adult now. You must make your own choices based on your own faith and convictions. Your mom may not always approve of your choices and may even feel that you are being a bad daughter for not following her wishes. You may not convince her otherwise but just be careful not to disrespect her for that. Just remember, "If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? Who shall bring any charge against God's elect? It is God who justifies. Who is to condemn? Christ Jesus is the one who died-more than that, who was raised-who is at the right hand of God, who indeed is interceding for us." Rom 8:31b-34

I know it's a huge temptation, but I think that it would benefit you far more to walk away from this "deal". Keep your eyes fixed on the Lord who knows your situation and is with you through this very confusing time. I know that right now getting that degree from college seems urgent, but I think from God's perspective, it is more important for you to become a person of character and integrity. Seek wisdom from God. I see some great advises from other responses. Prayerfully consider them as you seek alternative ways to pay for your education.

I will be praying for you.