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You are trusting your heart too much, pal. God is not what you think He is, He is what He says He is in His Word. Where do you find any promise of salvation to people who never believed the gospel?
In Old Testament days it was sufficient to believe in God and live a life that was pleasing to him.
 

tribesman

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In Old Testament days it was sufficient to believe in God and live a life that was pleasing to him.
The way of salvation was the same in OT as it is in NT.
 
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7seven7

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John 14:6: Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me"

Romans 1:20: "For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so that they are without excuse"

John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life"

Being somewhat of a 'good' person doesn't make you righteous, only the blood of Jesus. There is only one way.

John 3:3: Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”

As the church we spread the "good news" to the world. We have missionaries that travel to these far out countries to share the gospel. Scripture says that some will perish for they didn't receive the love of the truth that they might be saved :(

You say "living in love," but what exactly would that be, apart from Christ? No one can love with a Godly love without the Holy Spirit dwelling in them. Without the Spirit it would be a work of self.
Ok but what about those tribes in countries that have never had communication with anyone. Are you telling me they're doomed, even though they have never heard the Gospel or heard of Christ? I will never agree that God will just let them burn for not having access to the Gospel! That is NOT the God I know. And this is another problem with sola-scriptura.

I wonder how many people believe that God will abandon these people in the judgement. I'm out of this conversation. God bless
 
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She did all her work in the name of the Lord.
That is doubtful. If she didn't have the Gospel, she certainly didn't do it for Lord Jesus, King of Grace.

But even if she didn't, do you think that the Lord would take no notice to the love that she showed people?
If it's not to the name of God, is it really love?

We don't know fullywhat our Lord sees as a pile of rags and as precious gems. It's whats in a person's heart that ALSO matters to the Lord.
Scripture gives us a pretty good idea.
 
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jonrambo

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whats heracy? i think the catholic system is just another form of babylonian mysticism (nimrod worship ect) and the history of the church is discusting. does that make me a heretic? i even think that the pope is probably the antichrist based on the jesuits being in control of the illuminati and not the other way around. heracy? is that disagreeing with God and the bible or disagreeing with Catcholics? might make a heratic sticker for my car if thats the case it can go next to my anti ned flanders sticker!!!!!!
 
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That is doubtful. If she didn't have the Gospel, she certainly didn't do it for Lord Jesus, King of Grace.


If it's not to the name of God, is it really love?

Scripture gives us a pretty good idea.
man you went backwards in the conversation! we weren't talking about mother Theresa anymore. She was a very strong practicing Catholic and did EVERYTHING in the Lords name. Don't even go there buddy. Devote YOUR whole life to the poor and the sick and MAYBE then you can give your petty little judgements about saints like Mother Theresa !! I was talking hypothetical. And Scripture tells us alot. But nobody on Earth can claim to know exactly what God thinks or wants. And you call the Catholic Church evil? That's rich coming from people who claim they can read God's mind fully. Sick of this. I see nothing but judgement and criticism come from you and some of your friends. LEARN TO LOVE!!!
 
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7seven7

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whats heracy? i think the catholic system is just another form of babylonian mysticism (nimrod worship ect) and the history of the church is discusting. does that make me a heretic? i even think that the pope is probably the antichrist based on the jesuits being in control of the illuminati and not the other way around. heracy? is that disagreeing with God and the bible or disagreeing with Catcholics? might make a heratic sticker for my car if thats the case it can go next to my anti ned flanders sticker!!!!!!
hey champ! you're not the first to say it, and you won't be the last. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. But know this. You're wrong! Now you know the truth. Do what you will with it!! God bless
 

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How can u say people thay you are Christians when you're judjing other Christians who did good in the name of Jesus? who are you to judge? Are you christians ? Christianity is about love and forgivness, and even if you hate Catholics that doesn't mean that you are right, don't judge and say that you are a Christians, don;t think that you are a better Christian then them, think before you talk, every prson doing good in the name of Jesus is a christian and you should respect him even if you don't like Catholics, you should respect just because they did it to talk about Jesus and to show the world the love of Jesus
 
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jonrambo

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am i wrong about what heracy means? because i know i am not wrong about the catholic system. sorry if you are a catholic if we were talking in person i would be far more delocate about it. if you know your history you know what the catholic church is realy all about. hail mary mother of God. what the hell is that! they tried to make it illegal to read the bible. Its not catcholics fault they have been tricked the devil is a cunning bastard. i heard God even listens to catholics and answers their prayers. But if they realise what they are a part of the only rightious choice to make is to "come out of her"
hey champ! you're not the first to say it, and you won't be the last. Everyone's entitled to an opinion. But know this. You're wrong! Now you know the truth. Do what you will with it!! God bless
 
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jonrambo

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sorry to offend but im not making this stuff up the jesuits are the most evil organisation on planet earth see for yourselves
 

Hanady

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What do u think about the Ctaholic Church now? in these days and not before? what about the Saints? they did everything to Jesus, preach and gave they lives only to Jesus, they did wrong? what about the Blessed Virgin Mary? Why do you hate her? because an angel told her that She will bring to this world our Lord??
When doing good for others and talk about Jesus and do everything for Jesus became wrong? i don't understand what do you hate about Catholics, they big family? the saints? the Blessed Virgin Mary? the miracles?
 
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am i wrong about what heracy means? because i know i am not wrong about the catholic system. sorry if you are a catholic if we were talking in person i would be far more delocate about it. if you know your history you know what the catholic church is realy all about. hail mary mother of God. what the hell is that! they tried to make it illegal to read the bible. Its not catcholics fault they have been tricked the devil is a cunning bastard. i heard God even listens to catholics and answers their prayers. But if they realise what they are a part of the only rightious choice to make is to "come out of her"
May I suggest you work on that log in your own eye, brother, and never mind what anyone else is doing, much less the Catholics. Is your denomination, whatever it might be, above reproach? There are hundreds, even thousands of other protestant denominations that would say NO to you. Does your church have a history that includes mistakes? If you think not, maybe it's simply because it has no history - the Catholic Church has been around for 2000+ years; yours hasn't. God Bless you all the same my friend.
 
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7seven7

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am i wrong about what heracy means? because i know i am not wrong about the catholic system. sorry if you are a catholic if we were talking in person i would be far more delocate about it. if you know your history you know what the catholic church is realy all about. hail mary mother of God. what the hell is that! they tried to make it illegal to read the bible. Its not catcholics fault they have been tricked the devil is a cunning bastard. i heard God even listens to catholics and answers their prayers. But if they realise what they are a part of the only rightious choice to make is to "come out of her"
Did Mary not give birth to the Lord? Please, show me how you know that the Catholic Church tried to make it illegal to read the bible! Or are you just listening to somebody else who hates the Church? And where's your backing to the claim that the Jesuits are "the most evil organisation on planet earth?" Why is it so easy for you to say such evil things about people who devote their whole lives to God? Whose being tricked by the devil? Jesuits Being in control of the illuminati? hahaha How do you know so much about the most secretive organisation in the world? I gave you the truth mate. Simple as that. You have no excuse
 

loveme1

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The catholic church is deceiving people.

They do abominable things.

It is not of the Living Almighty God.

Read the Bible it exposes them.
 

Hanady

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like what? what are they doing?
 

Hanady

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lol can u tell me please where the bible is talking about Catholics? sisnce when doing something in the name of God and for Jesus is swrong? i really don't understand why u hate Catholics so much, how can u say that you are Christians and you hate your brothers and sisters in Christ?
 

loveme1

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lol can u tell me please where the bible is talking about Catholics? sisnce when doing something in the name of God and for Jesus is swrong? i really don't understand why u hate Catholics so much, how can u say that you are Christians and you hate your brothers and sisters in Christ?
I never said i hated anyone.

My Love for Heavenly Father and His Truth is why i speak to those deceived.


Have you read the whole Bible?
 

Hanady

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so Catholic don't love Christ or what? i dont understand what u mean
you know that Catholics believe in Jesus as our savior also no?