History The Lost Ten Tribes of Ancient Israel

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zone

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most of this is accurate.
a reasonable resource:

British-Israelism, Anglo-Israelism Refuted!

Anglo/British Israelism Herbert W. Armstrong REFUTED!




Herbert W. Armstrong (31 July 1892 - 16 January 1986) founded the Worldwide Church of God in the late 1930s, as well as Ambassador College (later Ambassador University) in 1946, and was an early pioneer of radio and tele-evangelism, originally taking to the airwaves in the 1930s from Eugene, Oregon. Armstrong preached an eclectic set of theological doctrines and teachings that he claimed came directly from the Bible.[3] These theological doctrines and teachings have been referred to as Armstrongism. His teachings included the interpretation of biblical prophecy in light of British Israelism,[4] and required observance of parts of the covenant Law including seventh-day Sabbath, dietary prohibitions, and the covenant law "Holy Days".

Armstrong proclaimed that behind world events during his lifespan loomed various Biblical prophecies, and that he was called by God as an 'Apostle' and end-time 'Elijah' to proclaim the Gospel of God's Kingdom to the World[5] before the return of Jesus Christ.

Herbert W. Armstrong - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
 
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The British-Israel-World Federation was founded in London on 3 July 1919, although its roots can be traced back to the 19th century. At one time this organization enjoyed the patronage of members of the British establishment including HRH Princess Alice of Athlone, the Duke of Buccleuch, the Earl of Dysart, Lord Gisborough, and William Massey, the Prime Minister of New Zealand.
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The British-Israel-World Federation was born as a movement in the 19th century and federated in 1919 during the days when the "sun never set on the British Empire". From 1924, the organization maintained an office next to Buckingham Palace. In 1990, it moved to Putney on the Thames, but since 2003 has been based near Bishop Auckland in Co Durham.
British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism) is a doctrine based on the hypothesis that people of Western European descent, particularly those in Great Britain, are the direct lineal descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. {The doctrine often includes the tenet that the British Royal Family is directly descended from the line of King David.}

- There's that Merovingian sticking point.
 
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The thing is,........this idea wasn't hatched by a semitic Jew, or a prophetic chinaman.
It wasn't thought up by an East Indian believer or a Russian theologian.
It wasn't dreamed up by a Coptic christian(Egyptian) or a Spanish saint.

The whole idea was dreamed up by some Anglo-Saxons.

Hmmm..........I wonder why that was?

The start of this heresy goes back to something called the Merovingian Bloodline.
It was a way to synchronize the gospel with the "divine right of kings".
It started in france but worked it's way (mysteriously) into anglo-saxon folklore.

It ain't true.
The whole idea was dreamed up by some Anglo-Saxons.

was it?
:)

what is meant by Anglo-Saxons in reality?
Caucasians, right?

where are the Caucasus Mountains?
(which they lay claim to crossing over in their diaspora)


Adventism:
Widespread trans–denominational movement inspired by William Miller's prediction that Jesus´ "advent" (return) would take place in 1844. Even after the Great Disappointment (the date's failure), many people in the movement continued to believe. Some suggested revised chronologies and new dates, eventually forming groups such as the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. Others, notably Hiram Edson and Ellen G. White, suggested that the 1844 date was accurate but that a heavenly (thus invisible) event had taken place. Their teachings became the basis of Seventh-day Adventism, which eventually spawned its own offshoots, including Armstrongism.

"Cults & Religions" - Information - Cults and Doctrines


aaahh.....WWCG (British Israelism) came from Adventism.
Adventism came from Ellen White and Freemasonry.
Freemasonry is a cover for something else.

......:confused:
 
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Some one will actually fine interest here do their home work and see all and more evidence then is presented in the video on their own. I posted this documentary for those few special people who care. I want those that care to look into the history farther themselves, to go to the historic archaeology finds and study on your own. You'll be rewarded. with true history that the world works to cover up
 
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The origin of this doctrine goes back to the fifth century and the Merovingian Dynasty.
'Caucasian' is just a term.
Armstrong was late to the game.
 

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The British-Israel-World Federation was founded in London on 3 July 1919, although its roots can be traced back to the 19th century. At one time this organization enjoyed the patronage of members of the British establishment including HRH Princess Alice of Athlone, the Duke of Buccleuch, the Earl of Dysart, Lord Gisborough, and William Massey, the Prime Minister of New Zealand.
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The British-Israel-World Federation was born as a movement in the 19th century and federated in 1919 during the days when the "sun never set on the British Empire". From 1924, the organization maintained an office next to Buckingham Palace. In 1990, it moved to Putney on the Thames, but since 2003 has been based near Bishop Auckland in Co Durham.
British Israelism (also called Anglo-Israelism) is a doctrine based on the hypothesis that people of Western European descent, particularly those in Great Britain, are the direct lineal descendants of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel. {The doctrine often includes the tenet that the British Royal Family is directly descended from the line of King David.}

- There's that Merovingian sticking point.
but that's FRANCE! :)

The Merovingians were a Salian Frankish dynasty that came to rule the Franks in a region known as Francia in Latin for 300 years from the middle of the 5th century, their territory largely corresponding to ancient Gaul as well as the Roman provinces of Raetia, Germania Superior and the southern part of Germania Magna. The Merovingian dynasty was founded by Childeric I (c.457 – 481) the son of Merovech, leader of the Salian Franks, but it was his famous son Clovis I (481 – 511) who united all of Gaul under Merovingian rule.

The Merovingian dynasty owes its name to the semi-legendary Merovech (Latinised as Meroveus or Merovius and in French as Merovée), leader of the Salian Franks, and emerges into wider history with the victories of his son Childeric I (reigned c.457 – 481) against the Visigoths, Saxons, and Alemanni.

The kings appointed magnates to be comites (counts), charging them with defense, administration, and the judgment of disputes. This happened against the backdrop of a newly isolated Europe without its Roman systems of taxation and bureaucracy, the Franks having taken over administration as they gradually penetrated into the thoroughly Romanised west and south of Gaul. The counts had to provide armies, enlisting their milites and endowing them with land in return. These armies were subject to the king's call for military support. Annual national assemblies of the nobles and their armed retainers decided major policies of war making. The army also acclaimed new kings by raising them on its shields continuing an ancient practice that made the king leader of the warrior-band. Furthermore, the king was expected to support himself with the products of his private domain (royal demesne), which was called the fisc. This system developed in time into feudalism, and expectations of royal self-sufficiency lasted until the Hundred Years' War. Trade declined with the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, and agricultural estates were mostly self-sufficient. The remaining international trade was dominated by Middle Eastern merchants, often Jewish Radanites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty
 
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Some one will actually fine interest here do their home work and see all and more evidence then is presented in the video on their own. I posted this documentary for those few special people who care.
- Do you really think God justifies flesh Nathan?
- - Are some people MORE righteous because of their bloodline?
- - - Is God a respecter of persons of a certain ethnicity?
- - - - What did the WHOLE New Testament as well as all the prophecies in the O.T. concerning the coming Messiah say?
 

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The origin of this doctrine goes back to the fifth century and the Merovingian Dynasty.
'Caucasian' is just a term.
Armstrong was late to the game.
course he was.
but we can easily see how the narrative has been tweaked every few decades.

there's a theme that runs through all of it.

the Kingdom is an earthly kingdom.

and ultimately it will be [white] "Israelites" who rule.
we're paying in blood and money for it already, are we not?

today we call it Dispensationalism.

we are told: they are the head.

in fact...the tail wags the dog.
 
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but that's FRANCE! :)

The Merovingians were a Salian Frankish dynasty that came to rule the Franks in a region known as Francia in Latin for 300 years from the middle of the 5th century, their territory largely corresponding to ancient Gaul as well as the Roman provinces of Raetia, Germania Superior and the southern part of Germania Magna. The Merovingian dynasty was founded by Childeric I (c.457 – 481) the son of Merovech, leader of the Salian Franks, but it was his famous son Clovis I (481 – 511) who united all of Gaul under Merovingian rule.

The Merovingian dynasty owes its name to the semi-legendary Merovech (Latinised as Meroveus or Merovius and in French as Merovée), leader of the Salian Franks, and emerges into wider history with the victories of his son Childeric I (reigned c.457 – 481) against the Visigoths, Saxons, and Alemanni.

The kings appointed magnates to be comites (counts), charging them with defense, administration, and the judgment of disputes. This happened against the backdrop of a newly isolated Europe without its Roman systems of taxation and bureaucracy, the Franks having taken over administration as they gradually penetrated into the thoroughly Romanised west and south of Gaul. The counts had to provide armies, enlisting their milites and endowing them with land in return. These armies were subject to the king's call for military support. Annual national assemblies of the nobles and their armed retainers decided major policies of war making. The army also acclaimed new kings by raising them on its shields continuing an ancient practice that made the king leader of the warrior-band. Furthermore, the king was expected to support himself with the products of his private domain (royal demesne), which was called the fisc. This system developed in time into feudalism, and expectations of royal self-sufficiency lasted until the Hundred Years' War. Trade declined with the decline and fall of the Roman Empire, and agricultural estates were mostly self-sufficient. The remaining international trade was dominated by Middle Eastern merchants, often Jewish Radanites.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merovingian_dynasty
I KNOW it is.
People tend to lift ideas from each other....No?
Especially thieves.
- It goes back to justifying the divine right of kings.
- - As in, "God told me to send your sons into battle to be killed",
........"I know He did because I'm of the lineage of King David, the sweet psalmist of Israel."
- - - - "So when your sons are killed you can be read some of my father's psalms."
(They still use this ploy! - Even today in a different way.)
 
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The legend of the Bloodline called Merivengian says Jesus didn't actually die on the cross but only 'swooned'; so He and Mary Magdalene were married and went off to France and had holy children. (Which became the royal bloodline)
It actually dates to the third century as a fable.
 

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I KNOW it is.
People tend to lift ideas from each other....No?
Especially thieves.
- It goes back to justifying the divine right of kings.
- - As in, "God told me to send your sons into battle to be killed",
........"I know He did because I'm of the lineage of King David, the sweet psalmist of Israel."
- - - - "So when your sons are killed you can be read some of my father's psalms."
(They still use this ploy! - Even today in a different way.)
it's the same group doing it.
not hard.
they move around a lot.
and intermarry.

hey.....this is reptile talk:rolleyes:
 

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The legend of the Bloodline called Merivengian says Jesus didn't actually die on the cross but only 'swooned'; so He and Mary Magdalene were married and went off to France and had holy children. (Which became the royal bloodline)
It actually dates to the third century as a fable.
ya...the Holy Blood Holy Grail stuff.
yuck. that's the gnostics.

British Israelism is another creature (same origins, basically)

nutty stuff.

e-e-e-e-e-e-e-everybody in the world wants to be/claiming to be 'jews'.
 
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Before people actually could read the bible for themselves, all sorts of ridiculous claims were made by the lording class.
I mean.......the priest class was little more to the Europeans as witchdoctors were to savages in the rest of the world.
- Totally disgusting when it is considered they held the word of God in their grubby mitts.

Only after the Guttenburg press did some come clean.
- "Hey....wait a minute here....it says the just shall live by faith"
- - What a concept!
 
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I want those that care to look into the history farther themselves, to  go to the historic archaeology finds and study on your own. You'll be  rewarded. with true history that the world works to cover up
 
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Pentecost: Acts 2:5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem Jews, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

James 1:1 James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.

Whos lost?
those particular verses don't actually prove anything about whether or not there are lost tribes...

acts 2:5 just says there were devout jews from everywhere gathered in jerusalem at pentecost...it doesn't say all tribes were represented...

and james just addressed his letter to all twelve tribes...he doesn't actually indicate that he knew where or even who they were in his day...he just knows they will read his letter...
 
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the question of what actually happened to the ten northern tribes is an interesting historical puzzle...which unfortunately many people have mistakenly conflated with doctrinal and prophetic issues...

representatives of all twelve tribes were present in the kingdom of judah at the time of the exile...and they returned from exile along with the people of judah...they were also present in judea and galilee in new testament times...so that settles any doctrinal and prophetic questions...everyone is accounted for in the prophetic sense...

the -historical- issue on the other hand is another question entirely...it is basically historical fact that the bulk of the northern tribes were absorbed into gentile nations after their mass deportation to other parts of the assyrian empire in 722 BC... while this group doesn't matter at all in terms of prophecy...they are of interest as a matter of secular history...

personally i suspect that the kurdish people may be largely descended from the ten northern tribes...some groups in india and burma such as the lahu and the naga may also be descended from the northern tribes...and as surprising as it may sound the lemba people of zimbabwe are very likely related to the northern tribes too...

on the other hand the theories of 'british israelism' and 'black israelism' and 'ethiopian israelism' and mormonism are certainly false and have absolutely no factual support...

i should add that since there are christian converts from pretty much every 'gentile' group...then probability dictates that some descendants of the 'lost' people of the northern kingdom are almost certainly in the christian church today...'lost' or not they can still be saved...
 
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