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Some Christians will struggle most of thier life trying to break decades of indulging in sin, it is no different from the homosexual who turns to Christ. Why do so many Christians, including a number posting on here, have such a problem with homosexuals, why the rabid venomous hate for them?
Someone who is homoseuxal and accepts Christ and becomes a child of God, will enter heaven, just as someone who has addiction to sex and porn and struggles to stop that activity, what about the alcoholic who accepts Christ but struggles to stop drinking too much, will he also be rejected from entering heaven? If so then to use Phill's argument, that makes Christ a liar.
Someone who is homoseuxal and accepts Christ and becomes a child of God, will enter heaven, just as someone who has addiction to sex and porn and struggles to stop that activity, what about the alcoholic who accepts Christ but struggles to stop drinking too much, will he also be rejected from entering heaven? If so then to use Phill's argument, that makes Christ a liar.
That's all true... We each have our points of weakness and struggles, some more than others. A beautiful looking person will likely struggle more against vanity than an ugly person. One person might have a predisposition towards alcoholism, where alcohol is not even a temptation for myself. Imagine if Leviticus 20:13 said that 'If a man lie with a woman, he hath committed an abomination'. How many heterosexuals would have a propensity towards sin? That's how I try to relate to the battle a gay person faces daily.
there's that sentiment - that we all have sin, and we all have need of a Savior,
and there's also the fact that there is no outspoken group of 'christian liars' or 'christian thieves' or 'christian adulterers'
Christ set me free from my sin, and i don't identify myself with it anymore, being nailed to the cross - but some people still insist on calling themselves 'gay christians' as though they identify themselves by their particular perversion of the flesh rather than, or in addition to an identity in Christ.
that's why i said we all have to decide if our lust is more important than our Lord. if you are in Christ, identify yourself with Christ; if you're still calling yourself 'homosexual' i think you've missed the point.
if i struggle in the flesh against pride and idolatry, should i call myself a 'christian egotist' or a 'christian idolater' ???
does that make sense? we can't serve two masters.
and there's also the fact that there is no outspoken group of 'christian liars' or 'christian thieves' or 'christian adulterers'
Christ set me free from my sin, and i don't identify myself with it anymore, being nailed to the cross - but some people still insist on calling themselves 'gay christians' as though they identify themselves by their particular perversion of the flesh rather than, or in addition to an identity in Christ.
that's why i said we all have to decide if our lust is more important than our Lord. if you are in Christ, identify yourself with Christ; if you're still calling yourself 'homosexual' i think you've missed the point.
if i struggle in the flesh against pride and idolatry, should i call myself a 'christian egotist' or a 'christian idolater' ???
does that make sense? we can't serve two masters.
That is not Christianity.
That kind of Christianity is a complete joke.
Salvation involves being saved from sin, not saved and left a slave. To believe in an ongoing "struggling with sin in salvation" is an utter denial of salvation itself. Jesus came to set us free indeed and that is exactly what the salvation of God does.
The reason people "struggle with sin" is because they have not been saved, all they received was a false notion of salvation and are thus totally deceived.
If Satan can trick someone into thinking they are saved when they are not then that person sees no reason to seek out the real thing, in their mind they think they already have it.
Christianity is not about "accepting Christ." That is not what the Bible teaches. Christianity is about DYING WITH CHRIST and being RAISED UP WITH CHRIST. It is through the baptism of repentance whereby a crisis of conviction in the mind which utterly destroys and purges the root of iniquity in the heart. It is in this purging that an individual can then yield themselves to God with a true heart confessing all their past wrongdoing having forsaken it. It is THEN that God will forgive the sins and regenerate the new believer. If this never occurs then the individual was never saved.
That kind of Christianity is a complete joke.
Salvation involves being saved from sin, not saved and left a slave. To believe in an ongoing "struggling with sin in salvation" is an utter denial of salvation itself. Jesus came to set us free indeed and that is exactly what the salvation of God does.
The reason people "struggle with sin" is because they have not been saved, all they received was a false notion of salvation and are thus totally deceived.
If Satan can trick someone into thinking they are saved when they are not then that person sees no reason to seek out the real thing, in their mind they think they already have it.
Christianity is not about "accepting Christ." That is not what the Bible teaches. Christianity is about DYING WITH CHRIST and being RAISED UP WITH CHRIST. It is through the baptism of repentance whereby a crisis of conviction in the mind which utterly destroys and purges the root of iniquity in the heart. It is in this purging that an individual can then yield themselves to God with a true heart confessing all their past wrongdoing having forsaken it. It is THEN that God will forgive the sins and regenerate the new believer. If this never occurs then the individual was never saved.
No, no, no. The issue is the heart. The heart must be pure.
It is out of a pure heart of love whereby we obey God and overcome the world. God abides in the children of the light and that light manifests through them as righteousness.
Temptation itself is just the natural proclivity to do something, a natural desire. Christian's though live a crucified life where those desires are mortified. Of course we still feel the desires but through a faith that works by love we rule over those desires and remain faithful to God.
It was the rites and rituals of the Old Covenant that was nailed to the cross not our sin.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
The means to approach God under the Old Covenant was through through the ordinances and sacrifices. Under the New Covenant we are able to approach God directly because the purchase has been made by Christ through His sacrifice. Thus we can approach God in our temple (our heart) and seek a cleansing by which we enter into the New Covenant.
Many people think that their sin was nailed to the cross and thus what they do is not identify with it anymore even though they keep sinning. That is deception. That is purely a mind game of no value.
It is in repentance that we forsake the old man and return to God where we are raised up as the new man. Thus the identification is connected to a manifest reality. God really removes us from sin, not just passes over the condemnation.
The purpose of the cross is to offer a cleansing from our past rebellion and give us a fresh start whereby we can partake in the inheritance with Jesus Christ. The death of Christ is for PAST SINS whilst repentance is for DESTROYING THE ROOT OF SIN.
That is why Hebrews 10:26 warns about ongoing sin AFTER the cleansing. To sin after the cleansing is to trample upon the cleansing, it is to make the cleansing without purpose.
Modern Christianity for all intents and purposes is under a very powerful satanic delusion where they have rejected the purging of sin by the blood and the purging of iniquity by repentance. That is why so many professing Christian's argue in favour of ongoing sin in salvation, they have absolutely no concept of what salvation actually means.
The problem between man and God is sin. It is impossible for reconciliation to take place between God and man whilst rebellion still exists. It is like an adulterous husband cannot be reconciled to his wife while he is still in an adulterous relationship. It is the adultery itself which is the problem.
God simply cannot forgive sin unless the heart of the sinner changed otherwise God's justice would be undermined. God would be unjust to forgive a criminal who was still engaged in crime, such a thing would bring total disorder and undermine righteousness as being necessary. God cannot wink at sin.
Thus the cross is the means to ensure that the forgiveness of sins is upon those who won't offend again and that is why heart purity is connected to the forgiveness of sin. That is why God reckons FAITH as righteousness because FAITH WORKS BY LOVE and pure love only flows from a pure heart.
There is no amount of deeds that one can do to make up for past criminality. We are all guilty of sinning against God. That is why justification is not of works but grace. Yet justification is of a FAITH THAT WORKS and that faith WORKS BY LOVE and is a result of "yielding to God wholeheartedly" which is something that is impossible unless one has truly experienced a genuine repentance where they went through a crisis of conviction, out of which flowed a yielding to God because sin was understood for what it actually was.
These things they don't teach in the churches today and it is so foreign to the mind of professing Christian's that few can even comprehend such things as being true, yet it is what the Bible actually teaches.
What we need to do is stop listing to all these preachers, radio shows, tv shows and dig deep into the Bible with a mind of the child and just let ourselves be taught. Doing this will bring us into the truth and lead us to an understanding of what to do. When confronted with the truth conviction will result as a true godly sorrow develops. It is through this process that the iniquity within the heart can be purged and therefore we are able to approach God with a true and sincere heart seeking forgiveness for our sins and He will raise us up by His power to newness of life.
It is out of a pure heart of love whereby we obey God and overcome the world. God abides in the children of the light and that light manifests through them as righteousness.
Temptation itself is just the natural proclivity to do something, a natural desire. Christian's though live a crucified life where those desires are mortified. Of course we still feel the desires but through a faith that works by love we rule over those desires and remain faithful to God.
It was the rites and rituals of the Old Covenant that was nailed to the cross not our sin.
Col 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;
The means to approach God under the Old Covenant was through through the ordinances and sacrifices. Under the New Covenant we are able to approach God directly because the purchase has been made by Christ through His sacrifice. Thus we can approach God in our temple (our heart) and seek a cleansing by which we enter into the New Covenant.
Many people think that their sin was nailed to the cross and thus what they do is not identify with it anymore even though they keep sinning. That is deception. That is purely a mind game of no value.
It is in repentance that we forsake the old man and return to God where we are raised up as the new man. Thus the identification is connected to a manifest reality. God really removes us from sin, not just passes over the condemnation.
The purpose of the cross is to offer a cleansing from our past rebellion and give us a fresh start whereby we can partake in the inheritance with Jesus Christ. The death of Christ is for PAST SINS whilst repentance is for DESTROYING THE ROOT OF SIN.
That is why Hebrews 10:26 warns about ongoing sin AFTER the cleansing. To sin after the cleansing is to trample upon the cleansing, it is to make the cleansing without purpose.
Modern Christianity for all intents and purposes is under a very powerful satanic delusion where they have rejected the purging of sin by the blood and the purging of iniquity by repentance. That is why so many professing Christian's argue in favour of ongoing sin in salvation, they have absolutely no concept of what salvation actually means.
The problem between man and God is sin. It is impossible for reconciliation to take place between God and man whilst rebellion still exists. It is like an adulterous husband cannot be reconciled to his wife while he is still in an adulterous relationship. It is the adultery itself which is the problem.
God simply cannot forgive sin unless the heart of the sinner changed otherwise God's justice would be undermined. God would be unjust to forgive a criminal who was still engaged in crime, such a thing would bring total disorder and undermine righteousness as being necessary. God cannot wink at sin.
Thus the cross is the means to ensure that the forgiveness of sins is upon those who won't offend again and that is why heart purity is connected to the forgiveness of sin. That is why God reckons FAITH as righteousness because FAITH WORKS BY LOVE and pure love only flows from a pure heart.
There is no amount of deeds that one can do to make up for past criminality. We are all guilty of sinning against God. That is why justification is not of works but grace. Yet justification is of a FAITH THAT WORKS and that faith WORKS BY LOVE and is a result of "yielding to God wholeheartedly" which is something that is impossible unless one has truly experienced a genuine repentance where they went through a crisis of conviction, out of which flowed a yielding to God because sin was understood for what it actually was.
These things they don't teach in the churches today and it is so foreign to the mind of professing Christian's that few can even comprehend such things as being true, yet it is what the Bible actually teaches.
What we need to do is stop listing to all these preachers, radio shows, tv shows and dig deep into the Bible with a mind of the child and just let ourselves be taught. Doing this will bring us into the truth and lead us to an understanding of what to do. When confronted with the truth conviction will result as a true godly sorrow develops. It is through this process that the iniquity within the heart can be purged and therefore we are able to approach God with a true and sincere heart seeking forgiveness for our sins and He will raise us up by His power to newness of life.
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This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth. But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin.
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
(1 John 1:5-10)
i wonder why the apostle would write to believers encouraging them to walk in light, and saying that if we claim not to have sin we are liars and make Christ a liar?
if these believers were all in a state of spotless, sinless perfection, untemptable and completely devoid of any shortcoming compared to the glory of God, my, but the one Jesus loved is far out of touch with reality!
how is it that the book encourages me to confess sin before Him, even after having taken hold of the promise, and my brother encourages me to think that if i have sin to confess, i never received the promise at all, nor knew a savior to confess it to?
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
(1 John 1:5-10)
i wonder why the apostle would write to believers encouraging them to walk in light, and saying that if we claim not to have sin we are liars and make Christ a liar?
if these believers were all in a state of spotless, sinless perfection, untemptable and completely devoid of any shortcoming compared to the glory of God, my, but the one Jesus loved is far out of touch with reality!
how is it that the book encourages me to confess sin before Him, even after having taken hold of the promise, and my brother encourages me to think that if i have sin to confess, i never received the promise at all, nor knew a savior to confess it to?
John was contending against the gnostic notion of dualism.
The gnostics taught that sin was related to "matter" and that virtue was related to the "soul." Thus the predominant reason for sin was that the soul was trapped in matter and subverted. It was out of this philosophy that a disconnect was made between "deeds done in the flesh" and the "condition of the soul." Thus one could "sin in the flesh" but not "sin in their soul." That is what John is contending against.
Thus in 1Joh 1:7 he is teaching that when we approach God seeking a cleansing from sin it must be through a genuine repentance experience whereby we have forsaken rebellion and are thus WALKING in the light. Hebrews 10:22 matches this...
Heb 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
It is only if we are in that state that we can be cleansed from sin.
1Joh 1:8-10 is connected to 1Joh 1:7 and has to do with "coming clean" or the "true heart." John is teaching that we cannot hide sin. Compare to Pro 28:13 which says...
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Thus when John says...
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
... he is not contending for ongoing sinfulness in a Christian which must be admitted, NO NO NO, he is simply contending for the fact that we have to confess our sin in order to be granted mercy.
John is not going to contradict this...
[SUP]1Joh 3
6 [/SUP]Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
What Satan's ministers do is snip 1Joh 1:8 and separate it from its context and then argue in favour of what the gnostics taught, ie. that sin is in the flesh. It is a diabolical deception and it has so many people totally in its grasp.
The gnostics taught that sin was related to "matter" and that virtue was related to the "soul." Thus the predominant reason for sin was that the soul was trapped in matter and subverted. It was out of this philosophy that a disconnect was made between "deeds done in the flesh" and the "condition of the soul." Thus one could "sin in the flesh" but not "sin in their soul." That is what John is contending against.
Thus in 1Joh 1:7 he is teaching that when we approach God seeking a cleansing from sin it must be through a genuine repentance experience whereby we have forsaken rebellion and are thus WALKING in the light. Hebrews 10:22 matches this...
Heb 10:22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.
It is only if we are in that state that we can be cleansed from sin.
1Joh 1:8-10 is connected to 1Joh 1:7 and has to do with "coming clean" or the "true heart." John is teaching that we cannot hide sin. Compare to Pro 28:13 which says...
Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.
Thus when John says...
[SUP]8 [/SUP]If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
... he is not contending for ongoing sinfulness in a Christian which must be admitted, NO NO NO, he is simply contending for the fact that we have to confess our sin in order to be granted mercy.
John is not going to contradict this...
[SUP]1Joh 3
6 [/SUP]Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.
What Satan's ministers do is snip 1Joh 1:8 and separate it from its context and then argue in favour of what the gnostics taught, ie. that sin is in the flesh. It is a diabolical deception and it has so many people totally in its grasp.
Yes, John wanted the people he was writing to share in the same fellowship he had and that was fellowship with Christ.
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
[SUP]2 [/SUP](For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
[SUP]3 [/SUP]That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
John wants to make sure that those whom he is writing to understand the means by which we approach God and have fellowship with God. That is why he points out that...
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
The profession must match the outward deeds, if it doesn't it is fake. The gnostics taught that deeds and the profession did not have to match because matter subverted the soul and thus they defended ongoing unrighteousness. This philosophical deception was encroaching upon Christianity and John was contending against it.
Read Justin Martyr and Irenaeus, early church writers in the 1st and 2nd century and you'll see them contending against the same error. The gnostics denied that it was possible to walk in purity on this earth because of the flesh.
Modern Christianity as been totally infected with this heresy and it has totally destroyed the Gospel in the minds of many. When the mind is deceived the truth cannot be easily perceived.
1 That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;
[SUP]2 [/SUP](For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us
[SUP]3 [/SUP]That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
John wants to make sure that those whom he is writing to understand the means by which we approach God and have fellowship with God. That is why he points out that...
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.
The profession must match the outward deeds, if it doesn't it is fake. The gnostics taught that deeds and the profession did not have to match because matter subverted the soul and thus they defended ongoing unrighteousness. This philosophical deception was encroaching upon Christianity and John was contending against it.
Read Justin Martyr and Irenaeus, early church writers in the 1st and 2nd century and you'll see them contending against the same error. The gnostics denied that it was possible to walk in purity on this earth because of the flesh.
Modern Christianity as been totally infected with this heresy and it has totally destroyed the Gospel in the minds of many. When the mind is deceived the truth cannot be easily perceived.
posthuman... you are in error and if you continue I can easily refute the error because what I am claiming is factual and easily proved with evidence.
In asserting your position you will have to snip select verses of scripture and lift them out of their context and heap rhetoric upon them. You will also be unable to respond to various verses and passages I will point out to you.
Verses like these...
1 Pet 1:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Peter is speaking of heart purity obtained through obedience. I have yet to see anyone who contends against heart purity in salvation address that verse. They just ignore it.
1Joh 3:7-10
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
I have never seen any defender of ongoing wickedness in a Christian discuss the word MANIFEST in that passage. John plainly states that the children of God are main known to the world by the fact that they don't sin. Of course the context of the sin here is willful sin (ie. sin unto death - see 1Joh 5).
In asserting your position you will have to snip select verses of scripture and lift them out of their context and heap rhetoric upon them. You will also be unable to respond to various verses and passages I will point out to you.
Verses like these...
1 Pet 1:22-23
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit unto unfeigned love of the brethren, see that ye love one another with a pure heart fervently:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
Peter is speaking of heart purity obtained through obedience. I have yet to see anyone who contends against heart purity in salvation address that verse. They just ignore it.
1Joh 3:7-10
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
I have never seen any defender of ongoing wickedness in a Christian discuss the word MANIFEST in that passage. John plainly states that the children of God are main known to the world by the fact that they don't sin. Of course the context of the sin here is willful sin (ie. sin unto death - see 1Joh 5).
The responses to my posts are generally all the same.
People make an assertion and perhaps they will refer to one or more scriptures.
I then reply to that one scripture by posting the surrounding context to demonstrate how it was twisted.
People then generally respond with more rhetoric and perhaps another scripture.
Yet what they never do is respond to the actual scriptures I bring up which absolutely prove that heart purity is essential if we wish to enter the kingdom. Those scriptures are invisible to them.
People often use scriptures to oppose other scriptures instead of trying to harmonise the whole message by examining context. Those who refuse to examine context and refuse to address apparent contradictions have an ulterior motive and are not genuinely interested in the truth. This is a pattern I have seen evidenced over and over again.
People make an assertion and perhaps they will refer to one or more scriptures.
I then reply to that one scripture by posting the surrounding context to demonstrate how it was twisted.
People then generally respond with more rhetoric and perhaps another scripture.
Yet what they never do is respond to the actual scriptures I bring up which absolutely prove that heart purity is essential if we wish to enter the kingdom. Those scriptures are invisible to them.
People often use scriptures to oppose other scriptures instead of trying to harmonise the whole message by examining context. Those who refuse to examine context and refuse to address apparent contradictions have an ulterior motive and are not genuinely interested in the truth. This is a pattern I have seen evidenced over and over again.