That is nonsense. God holds us accountable for not doing good. Accountability is levied because man has been given a revealed standard that teaches us the difference between right and wrong/good and evil/sin and righteousness and guilt and punishment are afforded to those who choose to violate the revealed standard of moral conduct. You are completely misrepresenting Rom 7.
Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!
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Very true. Sin was originally defined in the Garden concerning Eve, Adam, and the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. That original sin was a deliberate choice. Had it been the only source of food they would have had a simple choice to eat it, or avoid it until hopefully finding something else to eat before starving.
It might be fair to say some insane people have limited or no power of choice to the right things, and in some cases maybe their bad decision isn't accounted as a sin.
DNA doesn't determine sexual preference.
Nobody has found evidence there are "gay genes" or "criminal genes". That explains why only about 2% of the American population falls into the LGBT categories, and why most of us are legitimately revolted over the issue.
As easy read about that is at http://www.icr.org/article/8771 (Acts&Facts)
Sexual sins are best dealt with when a person is captivated by evil spirits will submit to counsel. The degree of potential personal disaster of health and relationships puts sexual sins in need of deliverance from demons.
It might be fair to say some insane people have limited or no power of choice to the right things, and in some cases maybe their bad decision isn't accounted as a sin.
DNA doesn't determine sexual preference.
Nobody has found evidence there are "gay genes" or "criminal genes". That explains why only about 2% of the American population falls into the LGBT categories, and why most of us are legitimately revolted over the issue.
As easy read about that is at http://www.icr.org/article/8771 (Acts&Facts)
Sexual sins are best dealt with when a person is captivated by evil spirits will submit to counsel. The degree of potential personal disaster of health and relationships puts sexual sins in need of deliverance from demons.
Maybe we need to call it what it is. One man lusting after another man's anus. Oops! Cat outta the bag! So now I'll be berated for saying the truth which is ugly. And it is. So if saying what it is is ugly, is not the act itself ugly as well?
And now some say that God is ok with it?
So if that sin is okee dokee, then every other sin is fine as well. In fact then, the logical next step in manure, is there is no such thing as sin. Then no such thing as a Savior, Christ died in vain, no sin no penalty, no Christian forum. Let's pack up our marbles and go home. Break out the dope, the beer, and the porn. Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.
Wait, wait, wait, wait! If no sin, then we aren't gonna die! The 'sin brought death' deal is bogus!
And further more.....a...a..I better quit. Ranting you know!
And now some say that God is ok with it?
So if that sin is okee dokee, then every other sin is fine as well. In fact then, the logical next step in manure, is there is no such thing as sin. Then no such thing as a Savior, Christ died in vain, no sin no penalty, no Christian forum. Let's pack up our marbles and go home. Break out the dope, the beer, and the porn. Eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.
Wait, wait, wait, wait! If no sin, then we aren't gonna die! The 'sin brought death' deal is bogus!
And further more.....a...a..I better quit. Ranting you know!
instead of accusing me of not having wisdom with no evidence, give me some evidence.
This also. I'm not perfect, never claimed it. However many of my critics tend to accuse me of short comings rather than deal with the sound scripture I present. A diversionary tactic. Liberals use that tactic all day long instead of answering the facts.
you know even Jesus was accused of having a devil. They accused Him of having no wisdom, I'm sure.
This also. I'm not perfect, never claimed it. However many of my critics tend to accuse me of short comings rather than deal with the sound scripture I present. A diversionary tactic. Liberals use that tactic all day long instead of answering the facts.
you know even Jesus was accused of having a devil. They accused Him of having no wisdom, I'm sure.
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There is a lot of certainty here which actually is not found in society, in families experiences.
There are too many families who are "normal" who have children who are homosexual, and the same type of families who do not. The parents are often shocked by the declaration of their children when they come out.
This is not a western society issue, but part of every culture and group of people the world over.
It does not make it not a sin, or an imperfect way of people.
It can be shown women who have hormone therapy with male hormones change their desires and focus. This happened among russian atheletes who were being used to increase performance in the olympics. It screwed up many of their lives.
Now these imbalances can occur naturally. Some genetic differences make women overly sexually active, while in men, seems to give them a sexual desire for other men.
Now I have personally known youngsters who were very unclear about there desires, and focus. It appeared very much part of who they were, not chosen. Now like all things there is a spectrum, but to ignore its existance is to ignore how sexual drive is one of the most fundamental drives we have in life. If founds our whole lives, founds families, makes us give up everything, die for our partners and our children. It is also fragile, difficult, complex. It is our greatest enigma, our weakness, our frustration and our great release.
Now to come to the table and deny this reality, means you do not qualify to discuss this subject. People have died, had their lives ruined from hatred, youngsters commit suicide because of the conflicts within them, which they did not ask for.
Now out of a real love for these people caught in this world, we need some grace. I have had gay friends, and I do not like their life style, but I cannot ignore it, or say it is just a choice. It is far more complex and difficult.
What makes it worse is some do get damaged from abuse as they grow, which makes it all the more confusing.
I just say we need more understanding and find a way through. Because it is not your own personal issue, does not mean it is not their in the world.
There are too many families who are "normal" who have children who are homosexual, and the same type of families who do not. The parents are often shocked by the declaration of their children when they come out.
This is not a western society issue, but part of every culture and group of people the world over.
It does not make it not a sin, or an imperfect way of people.
It can be shown women who have hormone therapy with male hormones change their desires and focus. This happened among russian atheletes who were being used to increase performance in the olympics. It screwed up many of their lives.
Now these imbalances can occur naturally. Some genetic differences make women overly sexually active, while in men, seems to give them a sexual desire for other men.
Now I have personally known youngsters who were very unclear about there desires, and focus. It appeared very much part of who they were, not chosen. Now like all things there is a spectrum, but to ignore its existance is to ignore how sexual drive is one of the most fundamental drives we have in life. If founds our whole lives, founds families, makes us give up everything, die for our partners and our children. It is also fragile, difficult, complex. It is our greatest enigma, our weakness, our frustration and our great release.
Now to come to the table and deny this reality, means you do not qualify to discuss this subject. People have died, had their lives ruined from hatred, youngsters commit suicide because of the conflicts within them, which they did not ask for.
Now out of a real love for these people caught in this world, we need some grace. I have had gay friends, and I do not like their life style, but I cannot ignore it, or say it is just a choice. It is far more complex and difficult.
What makes it worse is some do get damaged from abuse as they grow, which makes it all the more confusing.
I just say we need more understanding and find a way through. Because it is not your own personal issue, does not mean it is not their in the world.
Human experience does not excuse the practice of homosexuality nor does it validate the notion that this is somehow a genetic or hormonal abnormality, nor does human experience overturn what scripture reveals about this practice or its consequences both in the flesh or after this life. I am not attacking the individual but I will attack the practice in the strongest possible terms.
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Inordinate affections can develop a numbers of ways. One could have been born very normal until they were interfered with, and open up doors which would make homosexuality become a struggle.
One could have a generational curse passed on through third and fourth generations through portals opened up by their forefathers which may make it seem like they were born that way.
And much more reasons why it can happen.
In the end GOD said its an abomination, and therefore it should be submitted to GOD. We who are not touched by such things, give GOD thanks because the struggle is real, whether we understand it or not.
Like I always say GOD know the truth. HE is the TRUTH. So those who are genuinely seeking to live righteous lives before a thrice HOLY GOD, even if they falter; is completely different from those who say to themselves "this is how I am, GOD have to take that"
The TRUTH will always know a wicked heart.
Commit all things to the LORD... for HE is your STRENGTH
One could have a generational curse passed on through third and fourth generations through portals opened up by their forefathers which may make it seem like they were born that way.
And much more reasons why it can happen.
In the end GOD said its an abomination, and therefore it should be submitted to GOD. We who are not touched by such things, give GOD thanks because the struggle is real, whether we understand it or not.
Like I always say GOD know the truth. HE is the TRUTH. So those who are genuinely seeking to live righteous lives before a thrice HOLY GOD, even if they falter; is completely different from those who say to themselves "this is how I am, GOD have to take that"
The TRUTH will always know a wicked heart.
Commit all things to the LORD... for HE is your STRENGTH
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And again here we are bashing each other, name calling and so on. Ambassadors for Christ and look at us . Let us come together and reason the Lord says. Quite frankly does anyone know how to minister to the gay communities and how to love and try to win them over to Christ? I don't but let us seek the Lord for wisdom on the subject, or we can just stone them, I can't throw stones because I have a sin issue but maybe someone here doesn't and could lead off. Saints please come together to reason. I know what the Lord says about the subject, now if we are sent into this world how do we resolve the issue in the manner in which we were sent?
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