Homosexuality is not a choice!!!!
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What did I say that wasn't biblical?
when did I say it isn't wrong?
did the author of this thread ask you if it was wrong?
let me ask the same question a little differently...
why hey is he (or she?) sexually attracted to the same sex??
sin?
answer to sinful nature?
jesus?
how do you show Jesus?
by the laws of the bible?
by throwing stones?
or by living like Jesus lived?
when did I say it isn't wrong?
did the author of this thread ask you if it was wrong?
let me ask the same question a little differently...
why hey is he (or she?) sexually attracted to the same sex??
sin?
answer to sinful nature?
jesus?
how do you show Jesus?
by the laws of the bible?
by throwing stones?
or by living like Jesus lived?
Answer: living like Jesus. That said however, remember, God will not be mocked.
Pinky joined this site today and started three different threads about homosexuality. He's not seeking answers, he's trolling. All the while, he's laughing at the discord he started between Christian brethren. For the record, I love gay people, but I hate the gay agenda. Pinky is here perverting our chat site with the gay agenda.
Pinky joined this site today and started three different threads about homosexuality. He's not seeking answers, he's trolling. All the while, he's laughing at the discord he started between Christian brethren. For the record, I love gay people, but I hate the gay agenda. Pinky is here perverting our chat site with the gay agenda.
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Originally Posted by corkeyw4
I am struggling with the fact that my 16 year old son is gay. Ever since he was VERY young he showed signs of femininity. Over the years, he has been bullied in so many ways but the most common was being called gay, faggot and all the other names you associate with homosexuality. He has been to counseling and finally when he was 14, one night he had a major breakdown. He cornered himself in his room and wouldn't let me come near him. He said he couldn't do it anymore. Finally, I got him to admit that he was gay (not what I wanted to hear, because of the beliefs that I grew up with). But here was my son, tormented with trying to deal with who he was and who he was suppose to be. How do you deal with this as a mother? I love my son unconditionally and I have told him this on numerous occasions. We have a very close relationship but I admit I am very protective. A preacher told me once that you are not born gay but that the devil has influenced the behavior of a person. I don't believe that my son chose this way of life because he fought it so hard for so long. I have no one to talk to about this, I need to know how to lead my son to Our Lord Jesus Christ. God gave me the responsibility to care and nurture His child but I feel I have failed. Please help!!
Your son being gay is not a hindrance to knowing Jesus. Let me say that again, your son's homosexuality does not get in the way of him getting to know Jesus Christ, just as your sins haven't stopped you from being born again. Yes, hes a sinner, but so were you. He doesn't need to get his act together and forsake homosexuality in order to be welcomed by Christ. Just like a doctor gives medicine to the sick, the Gospel is for the sinner. If he had to clean up before accepting the Gospel, why would he need Jesus? Jesus' blood cleanses him from all sin and it is by grace that sin won't have dominion over him.
Your son can be led to Jesus by God's goodness, as that is what leads to repentance. Show him that there is no condemnation, and that God loves him. God doesn't condemn him and that even in the midst of his sins, God loves him AND he is still the righteousness of God in Jesus Christ (imputed righteousness). Show him how good the Good News is! Yes, he may be a homosexual but that doesn't stop God's grace and the fact Jesus died for him. His sin will be cleansed by the blood of Christ and him having a revelation of God's grace will free him from sin's dominion. He doesn't need rules and regulations, he needs Jesus and His grace.
I am struggling with the fact that my 16 year old son is gay. Ever since he was VERY young he showed signs of femininity. Over the years, he has been bullied in so many ways but the most common was being called gay, faggot and all the other names you associate with homosexuality. He has been to counseling and finally when he was 14, one night he had a major breakdown. He cornered himself in his room and wouldn't let me come near him. He said he couldn't do it anymore. Finally, I got him to admit that he was gay (not what I wanted to hear, because of the beliefs that I grew up with). But here was my son, tormented with trying to deal with who he was and who he was suppose to be. How do you deal with this as a mother? I love my son unconditionally and I have told him this on numerous occasions. We have a very close relationship but I admit I am very protective. A preacher told me once that you are not born gay but that the devil has influenced the behavior of a person. I don't believe that my son chose this way of life because he fought it so hard for so long. I have no one to talk to about this, I need to know how to lead my son to Our Lord Jesus Christ. God gave me the responsibility to care and nurture His child but I feel I have failed. Please help!!
Your son being gay is not a hindrance to knowing Jesus. Let me say that again, your son's homosexuality does not get in the way of him getting to know Jesus Christ, just as your sins haven't stopped you from being born again. Yes, hes a sinner, but so were you. He doesn't need to get his act together and forsake homosexuality in order to be welcomed by Christ. Just like a doctor gives medicine to the sick, the Gospel is for the sinner. If he had to clean up before accepting the Gospel, why would he need Jesus? Jesus' blood cleanses him from all sin and it is by grace that sin won't have dominion over him.
Your son can be led to Jesus by God's goodness, as that is what leads to repentance. Show him that there is no condemnation, and that God loves him. God doesn't condemn him and that even in the midst of his sins, God loves him AND he is still the righteousness of God in Jesus Christ (imputed righteousness). Show him how good the Good News is! Yes, he may be a homosexual but that doesn't stop God's grace and the fact Jesus died for him. His sin will be cleansed by the blood of Christ and him having a revelation of God's grace will free him from sin's dominion. He doesn't need rules and regulations, he needs Jesus and His grace.
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I agree with you 100% and Jesus Christ shed his blood to cleanse man from all sin. This is how we are to view those who engage in the works of the flesh such as homosexuality. They need to hear what the Spirit says through the gospel and through conviction of sin. The gospel of grace through Christ's death, burial and resurrection is the only provision that God has given for sinful man that will transform the mind and redeem every part of the soul that has been infected by sin.
The homosexual needs conviction from God and a great transformation, because they have been disapproved (adokimos) of God, worshipping the creature and not the Creator, who has made them male and female (Gen 1:27). The homosexual that remains in their lifestyle through the works of the flesh can not please God or gain acceptance of him unless they come to God by faith through the conviction of the Spirit and appeal to the mercy and grace of God being lost and walking in darkness. God is plentious in mercy and waits to be gracious toward all those who come to him through his Son. When Christ is lifted up and magnified through the cross, God has promised to draw ALL (all types of) men unto him. A message of condemnation and fear may save a few (Jude 21-23) but the message of the old bloody cross can save ALL men that come to Christ by faith, just as they are.
The homosexual needs conviction from God and a great transformation, because they have been disapproved (adokimos) of God, worshipping the creature and not the Creator, who has made them male and female (Gen 1:27). The homosexual that remains in their lifestyle through the works of the flesh can not please God or gain acceptance of him unless they come to God by faith through the conviction of the Spirit and appeal to the mercy and grace of God being lost and walking in darkness. God is plentious in mercy and waits to be gracious toward all those who come to him through his Son. When Christ is lifted up and magnified through the cross, God has promised to draw ALL (all types of) men unto him. A message of condemnation and fear may save a few (Jude 21-23) but the message of the old bloody cross can save ALL men that come to Christ by faith, just as they are.
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