How do Christians receive "GRACE?" Can a Christian stop and frustrate "GRACE?" Do Christians receive "GRACE" automatically?

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Sep 3, 2016
6,335
527
113
#21
The Miracle of God’s Word

Galatians 5:18
But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.


This one verse of Scripture alone reveals to us that without any doubt that The Holy Spirit will only speak about Jesus and point us to His finished work at the Cross using God’s Word to do it. He only guides us into Truth (John 16:13), and that Truth is the Truth of the Cross, for only when our faith is there and there alone are we not living as though we are under Law. This is so powerful because it allows us to see that The Holy Spirit will never lead us as God’s people to have a works mentality, but rather a Jesus paid it all mentality!

Only under Grace will The Holy Spirit lead anyone, therefore it is not the Holy Spirit who gives messages to preachers that tell anyone they just need to be trying harder, but quite the opposite, that they need to be believing in an already finished work at the Cross. All the fads that come into the Church yearly that tell us if we do this or if we do that, God will save us or deliver us, or pour out of His Spirit upon us, are not of the Lord. The Holy Spirit only points us to the Truth, and when accepted, He guides us in that Truth, and we will have the fruit thereof. Remember, The Holy Spirit only works by a Law and that Law is the Law of the Spirit of Life IN CHRIST JESUS, who alone can deliver from the Law of Sin and Death (Romans 8:2). Faith in the Cross allows the Holy Spirit to do the work He began at Salvation, but faith in ANYTHING other frustrates (Denies) Him (The Spirit of Grace - Galatians 2:21, Hebrews 10:29).

Seeking God in His Word and experiencing Him through faith in the sacrifice of Christ!

SHARE the Gospel of Jesus Christ on Social media!
Youtube: curtishutchinson316
9/27/2020


Pastor Curtis
Let the Church say AMEN
 

throughfaith

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2020
10,468
1,591
113
#22
Leave the wide gate and the broad way (hell bound), and come to the strait gate and narrow way (Jesus Christ and Him Crucified, i.e., The Blood of Jesus - 1 Cor. 2:2) Matthew 7:13-14

All other things are foolish!
ok as I've no idea what you believe . How are we saved ? What does a person need to do to be saved ? Geniuely curious as to what you would tell a lost person , how to be saved ?
 
Sep 3, 2016
6,335
527
113
#23
ok as I've no idea what you believe . How are we saved ? What does a person need to do to be saved ? Geniuely curious as to what you would tell a lost person , how to be saved ?
You must believe in your heart and not from the head to be saved!!!!!!! (Romans 10:9)
 
Sep 3, 2016
6,335
527
113
#26
Ok so why are adding to that simple message of Rom 10,9 ?
Romans 10:10: For with the heart, man believes unto Righteousness...(presents the word"believing" in a mode of thinking," not a feeling; the "believing" has to do with believing Christ, and that His Sacrifice of Himself Atoned for all sin.)

The Cross of Christ is as necessary for sanctification as it is for salvation (1 Cor. 1:18).

John 6:53 - "Except you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His Blood (i.e., the Cross, i.e., The Finished Work), you have no life in you," (presents the demand that caused "many of His Disciples to go back, and walk no more with Him" [John 6:66]. It does the same presently! This Verse tells us the degree of believing that is required; it refers to the Cross being the total Object of one's belief; failing that, there is no Life in you.)

John 6:66 - From that time many of His Disciples went back, and walk no more with Him.

Sanctifying peace allows the Holy Spirit to deliver the Believer into the death of Christ so Christ life is manifested through the Believer (2 Cor. 4:11, Gal. 2:20-21, Romans 8:2,13, John 14:21). I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me (Who Jesus Is), and gave himself for me (What Jesus Has Done on the Cross for us where the victory was won). Gal. 2:20

If The Believer doesn't enter into the LORD's rest, they die in the wilderness...only a few enter into His rest!
 

throughfaith

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2020
10,468
1,591
113
#27
Romans 10:10: For with the heart, man believes unto Righteousness...(presents the word"believing" in a mode of thinking," not a feeling; the "believing" has to do with believing Christ, and that His Sacrifice of Himself Atoned for all sin.)

The Cross of Christ is as necessary for sanctification as it is for salvation (1 Cor. 1:18).

John 6:53 - "Except you eat the Flesh of the Son of Man, and drink His Blood (i.e., the Cross, i.e., The Finished Work), you have no life in you," (presents the demand that caused "many of His Disciples to go back, and walk no more with Him" [John 6:66]. It does the same presently! This Verse tells us the degree of believing that is required; it refers to the Cross being the total Object of one's belief; failing that, there is no Life in you.)

John 6:66 - From that time many of His Disciples went back, and walk no more with Him.

Sanctifying peace allows the Holy Spirit to deliver the Believer into the death of Christ so Christ life is manifested through the Believer (2 Cor. 4:11, Gal. 2:20-21, Romans 8:2,13, John 14:21). I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me (Who Jesus Is), and gave himself for me (What Jesus Has Done on the Cross for us where the victory was won). Gal. 2:20

If The Believer doesn't enter into the LORD's rest, they die in the wilderness...only a few enter into His rest!
Ok right there youve added to the Gospel. There is nothing straight forward in what you are communicating?
 
Sep 3, 2016
6,335
527
113
#28
Ok right there youve added to the Gospel. There is nothing straight forward in what you are communicating?
Every jot and tittle of the Word of God must point to the Blood of Jesus (Calvary). Jesus said that the scriptures are about Him. In the O/T the reading of the WORD was sprinkled by the BLOOD.
 

peldom10

Active member
May 22, 2020
789
128
43
#29
Bible study question? If the Believer is frustrating grace by their Faith being misplaced; by not placing and maintaining their Faith exclusively in Christ and Him Crucified - will grace continue to much more abound over sin in the life of a Believer?


Please post scripture(s) with your reply.

Please define...."frustrating grace"....?
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
19,351
10,633
113
#30
Ok right there youve added to the Gospel. There is nothing straight forward in what you are communicating?
Notice that every time he quotes Scripture, he includes the red lettering of Jimmy Swaggart's commentary. He doesn't preach Scripture; he preaches Swaggart's interpretation of Scripture.
 

Dino246

Senior Member
Jun 30, 2015
19,351
10,633
113
#32
Every jot and tittle of the Word of God must point to the Blood of Jesus (Calvary).

That is simply ignorant. How does the law requiring a woman suspected of infidelity to drink poison point to the blood of Jesus? How does Satan's appearance before the throne room in Job 1 point to the blood of Jesus? How does Jethro's advice to Moses in Genesis 18 point to the blood of Jesus?

Jesus said that the scriptures are about Him.
No, He said the Law and the prophets testify about Him. There's a difference.

In the O/T the reading of the WORD was sprinkled by the BLOOD.
Really? Where is the Scripture supporting this statement?
 

peldom10

Active member
May 22, 2020
789
128
43
#34
No help from the Holy Spirit. Blessings stop...you now enter the Law of sin and death.

The Bible warns................"pray that the Holy Spirit never leaves you ............because He will not return"
 
Sep 3, 2016
6,335
527
113
#35
The Bible warns................"pray that the Holy Spirit never leaves you ............because He will not return"
I did not say He will leave you (for now), but He will not help you. Why do Christians divorce? Because grace is not working in that marriage. That couple's Faith is not in Christ and Him Crucified. Therefore, the works of the flesh (the law of sin and death) is ruling (the sin nature). The Holy Spirit ONLY WORKS IN A BELIEVER LIFE if their faith is anchored in Christ and the Cross. He only works between Christ and the Cross. see 2 Cor. 4:11-12
 

throughfaith

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2020
10,468
1,591
113
#38

throughfaith

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2020
10,468
1,591
113
#40
1cor 15.
1¶Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
3¶For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: