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i believe if there was anything extra that we needed God would have put it there 
Constantine help put the bible together and decided which scrolls needs to be in the bible i think or was it Martin Luther? (with the help of God ofcz). It's believed that he wanted unity among the people, but don't know much about that.
Anyway the roman catholic should have the same bible otherwise they have put some of the extra 'dead sea scrolls' in their bible for instance 'The book of Enoch'
We trust though that everything in our bible is more than enough as long as the information is not falsified. But like i said their are plenty of lost books that are not included in our bible.
Some of the books i found on the internet that are not in the bible,
THE EPISTLE OF BARNABAS
THE BOOK OF JASHER
THE REPORT OF THE PONTIUS TO TIBERIUS
LETTER OF HEROD TO PILATE TO HEROD
THE DEATH OF PILATE THE GOVERNAR
THE TRIAL AND CONDEMNATION OF PILATE
THE GOSPEL OF NICODEMUS
THE EPISTLE OF PONYIUS PILATE
THE GOSPEL OF THE BIRTH OF MARY
THE PROTEVANGELION
THE ACTS OF PAUL AND THECLA
THE FIRST GOSPEL OF THE INFANCY OF JESUS CHRIST
THOMAS 'GOSPEL OF THE INFANCY OF JESUS CHRIST
THE LOST GOSPEL ACCORDING TO PETER
THE SHEPARD OF HERMA
EPISTLES OF CLEMENT TO THE CORINTHINAS
THE BOOKS OF ADAM AND EVE
THE BOOK OF THE SECRETS OF ENOCH
THE TESTAMENTS OF THE TWELF PATRIARCHS
THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS
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i do not know HOW true they are though. To be honest i only really trust the books that in the bible.
We have to trust the words in the bible as it is the written Word of God (we believe this to be 100% true)
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness.
Think about it if we had to have all these books in our bible it would have been a 100 000 pages long at least
Constantine help put the bible together and decided which scrolls needs to be in the bible i think or was it Martin Luther? (with the help of God ofcz). It's believed that he wanted unity among the people, but don't know much about that.
Anyway the roman catholic should have the same bible otherwise they have put some of the extra 'dead sea scrolls' in their bible for instance 'The book of Enoch'
We trust though that everything in our bible is more than enough as long as the information is not falsified. But like i said their are plenty of lost books that are not included in our bible.
Some of the books i found on the internet that are not in the bible,
THE EPISTLE OF BARNABAS
THE BOOK OF JASHER
THE REPORT OF THE PONTIUS TO TIBERIUS
LETTER OF HEROD TO PILATE TO HEROD
THE DEATH OF PILATE THE GOVERNAR
THE TRIAL AND CONDEMNATION OF PILATE
THE GOSPEL OF NICODEMUS
THE EPISTLE OF PONYIUS PILATE
THE GOSPEL OF THE BIRTH OF MARY
THE PROTEVANGELION
THE ACTS OF PAUL AND THECLA
THE FIRST GOSPEL OF THE INFANCY OF JESUS CHRIST
THOMAS 'GOSPEL OF THE INFANCY OF JESUS CHRIST
THE LOST GOSPEL ACCORDING TO PETER
THE SHEPARD OF HERMA
EPISTLES OF CLEMENT TO THE CORINTHINAS
THE BOOKS OF ADAM AND EVE
THE BOOK OF THE SECRETS OF ENOCH
THE TESTAMENTS OF THE TWELF PATRIARCHS
THE GENERAL EPISTLE OF BARNABAS
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i do not know HOW true they are though. To be honest i only really trust the books that in the bible.
We have to trust the words in the bible as it is the written Word of God (we believe this to be 100% true)
2 Timothy 3:16
All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking,
correcting and training in righteousness.
Think about it if we had to have all these books in our bible it would have been a 100 000 pages long at least
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Nah shouldn't take years of conditioning to believe truth I don't buy it
Did it take years for you to learn stubbing your toe was painful probably not.
I appreciate where your coming from Ananda but faith in a book is much more difficult after you have learned that it wasn't always the way it is today.
Before anyone goes off halfcocked on my post perhaps they can explain a few things first?
1 Why is the front of the KJV say Authorized King James version?
2 King James was a King not God! Now if you do not understand the context of my query then you will know enough not to say "cause King James had it printed that's why"
3 Why do they change the words in the bible even today in the NASB, NIV, The New KJV all of em WHY?
4 As Scott would say why throw out 7 books in the 16th century?
Cause they were considered weak? Possible contradictions?
5 I myself have pointed out in another thread when trying to wrap my head around the Christian view of Godhead the obvious points inmany passages that point to Jesus as subordinate to God or his Son.
Something to mull over
Did it take years for you to learn stubbing your toe was painful probably not.
I appreciate where your coming from Ananda but faith in a book is much more difficult after you have learned that it wasn't always the way it is today.
Before anyone goes off halfcocked on my post perhaps they can explain a few things first?
1 Why is the front of the KJV say Authorized King James version?
2 King James was a King not God! Now if you do not understand the context of my query then you will know enough not to say "cause King James had it printed that's why"
3 Why do they change the words in the bible even today in the NASB, NIV, The New KJV all of em WHY?
4 As Scott would say why throw out 7 books in the 16th century?
Cause they were considered weak? Possible contradictions?
5 I myself have pointed out in another thread when trying to wrap my head around the Christian view of Godhead the obvious points inmany passages that point to Jesus as subordinate to God or his Son.
Something to mull over
S
If you are a Protestant, you follow the Jewish tradition of Martin Luther. Luther followed the Jewish rabbis of the council of Jamnia, all of whom rejected the LORD Jesus Christ. Thus, Luther was trusting men who don't believe in Jesus Christ to know the truth about what is the true Old Testament. Go figure.
If you follow the tradition of Martin Luther, you follow the tradition of men. Not the traditions of the Orthodox Church founded by our LORD Jesus Christ. Which has the complete and inerrant Bible.
In Greek in the OT and in the NT.
If you follow the tradition of Martin Luther, you follow the tradition of men. Not the traditions of the Orthodox Church founded by our LORD Jesus Christ. Which has the complete and inerrant Bible.
In Greek in the OT and in the NT.
J
This is about as short as I can put it.
Why 66, Part 4: How Do We Know the Bible Is True? - Answers in Genesis <--- click
Brian Edwards does a good job. (all four parts are about an hour)
Also, OT is quoted authoritatively many times in NT.
Few examples.
http://www.esvstudybible.org/sb/objects/chart-ot-nt-passages.html <--- click
http://www.kalvesmaki.com/LXX/NTCHART.HTM <--- click
Why 66, Part 4: How Do We Know the Bible Is True? - Answers in Genesis <--- click
Brian Edwards does a good job. (all four parts are about an hour)
Also, OT is quoted authoritatively many times in NT.
Few examples.
http://www.esvstudybible.org/sb/objects/chart-ot-nt-passages.html <--- click
http://www.kalvesmaki.com/LXX/NTCHART.HTM <--- click
Even you greek scriptures you hold to so dearly Scott cannot be historically corroberated for authenticity back to the time of Christ! Not to mention all the pagan Idolatry worship in your church this is about Doctrinal Authority and Authenticity not denominational rhetoric in a cage match to the death!
Jesus certifys the Old Testament in Luke 24:44 "And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that all things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me." Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible which include the law. The prophets covers the books written by prophets and the Psalms are the book of Psalms. We also can know what books are certifed by the fact that the New Testament quotes the Old Testament several times, so we know that those books were excepted. Some things overlap, like the fact that king Solomon was given wisdom is a story in the Bible but then we have the Proverbs which were written by Solomon and others.
That's funny The muslims don't have this problem nor the Jews (though they have many others)
Thank you for not using the faith card
Their books don't have authoritative titles like Matthew Mark Luke and John and their is no book of Jesus which when one thinks about it for a second it seems kinda odd considering he is the focal point of the entire book!
Thank you for not using the faith card
Their books don't have authoritative titles like Matthew Mark Luke and John and their is no book of Jesus which when one thinks about it for a second it seems kinda odd considering he is the focal point of the entire book!
S
Dear Canada, You realize that the Jewish rabbis have falsified the Hebrew Masoretic text and it is a late text, from 800 AD? There is no original Hebrew text; the oldest Hebrew text is the Dead Sea Scrolls Bible, and we cannot say that it is without errors. The Greek OT is the oldest translation of the original Hebrew Bible and it preserves the original readings of the original OT Bible. It is a reliable translation in a reliable language: Greek. You realize it is the book of the Christian Church, don't you? You realize it is the book the 12 apostles knew and used, don't you? In Erie PA Scott R. Harrington
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That's funny The muslims don't have this problem nor the Jews (though they have many others)
Thank you for not using the faith card
Their books don't have authoritative titles like Matthew Mark Luke and John and their is no book of Jesus which when one thinks about it for a second it seems kinda odd considering he is the focal point of the entire book!
Thank you for not using the faith card
Their books don't have authoritative titles like Matthew Mark Luke and John and their is no book of Jesus which when one thinks about it for a second it seems kinda odd considering he is the focal point of the entire book!
So you do not believe that Luke is the inspired Word of God; that is your problem, not mine. If you do not believe the Scriptures are inspired by God as the Bible teaches you will not be able to support your Christian faith. And if faith is not part of believeing the Gospel, you will have your own spiritual problems.
S
Pure bigotry against the Church that Christ founded. If you are a Protestant, you cannot trace your doctrines any further back in time than to John Wycliffe in the 13th century. Icons are not idolatry. But the Protestants do make an idol out of a book: the Bible. And they make an idol out of their alleged right and ability to interpret the Bible any way whatsoever they want to interpret the Bible, and make the Bible say whatever they want to make the Bible say. They don't listen to God: They listen to themselves!