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Lamar

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It's impossible because it doesn't line up with His word, my personal testimony just confirms this to me, and I proclaim the truth His Spirit guided me to. What makes your view more authoritative? Why do you act as if you are the authority and just get to "claim" that you're right? Because you posted proof text? You forgot a whole lot of text that says people are saved before they are baptized? Your argumentation is "I'm right, your testimony means nothing." While I actually agree that my personal experience has no authority and no one has to believe it. But I'm going to proclaim it when I hear anti-Christ teachings like you teach here.

"Obedience is needed for salvation."
NOPE you are a liar, and I can only conclude that you are not born again, because there's no way you can be transformed by His Spirit in truth, and be this far away from what's true. We can't be obedient or live in a pleasing way to God before we are born again. We are saved and THEN can be obedient, you claiming that we have to be obedient to be saved is a false works based salvation that is nothing but false and so far away from the Scripture you claim to hold to.


The scriptures are there. Its meaning is clear. Many Christians accept it.
Christians accept the WHOLE of scripture, not just a list of proof text that confirm one side while ignoring a ton of others that say the opposite. I honestly think you've provided your opinion and arrogance as an argument, as well as being completely dismissive of me in the most disrespectful way a Christian can be to another Christian. I don't expect anyone to accept what I say at face value, or at all really. I wouldn't want them to, but to just completely wave a person off who comes to you in Jesus name and says "this is what I testify as the truth of what God did in my life", as if it's nothing is a great insult. But only if it's another born again brother or sister, if they're still lost then it's not insulting at all. This is sadly where I'm at with you. If you haven't truly been spiritually resurrected by the power of God then you still feel it's up to your flesh to save you, as you're teaching here.

Please man you need to search yourself, as someone who thought I was saved 5 years before He saved me in truth, I plea with you to search yourself to see if you are truly spiritually alive and reconciled to God. If you think your obedience and baptism saved you, then you very well may not be saved. I'm sure you will wave this off too, but everything you are teaching here is wrong.
"Christians accept the WHOLE of scripture, not just a list of proof text that confirm one side while ignoring a ton of others that say the opposite."

It "can not possibly be true"

These are your words in green and they are indictive of a closed mind. It seems your "personal testimony" is your standard.

"Christians accept the WHOLE of scripture, not just a list of proof text that confirm one side while ignoring a ton of others that say the opposite.

There are no "ton of others" verses that use faith alone. There are none.

Keep in mind you believe in Faith Alone Regeneration Theology not Faith Regeneration Theology.

There is no definitive verbiage in any verses used to defend Faith Alone Regeneration Theology.

None.

Your "personal testimony" has no more authority then mine.
 
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Your comment is a rather indicative sign of a closed mind.

It "can not possibly be true"???

Obedience is needed for salvation.

The scriptures are there. Its meaning is clear. Many Christians accept it.

Yet it is impossible to be true???

Is it impossible because it does not line up to your testimony???
I highlighted, what you said about obedience
What I see is:
Obedience is the by product of salvation given to the person in belief to God about the death, burial and resurrection of Son for them
Those born new by God in risen Son get the new life offered them, more abundantly as in John 10:10 last part of that scripture. The first part, "The Thief" is flesh emotion(s) controlling people. That assuredly did that to me, before seeing Born new by God in risen Son given me, free of charge.
Thanks
 

Lamar

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I highlighted, what you said about obedience
What I see is:
Obedience is the by product of salvation given to the person in belief to God about the death, burial and resurrection of Son for them
Those born new by God in risen Son get the new life offered them, more abundantly as in John 10:10 last part of that scripture. The first part, "The Thief" is flesh emotion(s) controlling people. That assuredly did that to me, before seeing Born new by God in risen Son given me, free of charge.
Thanks
I am sorry but I do not understand what you are saying.
 
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I highlighted, what you said about obedience
What I see is:
Obedience is the by product of salvation given to the person in belief to God about the death, burial and resurrection of Son for them
Those born new by God in risen Son get the new life offered them, more abundantly as in John 10:10 last part of that scripture. The first part, "The Thief" is flesh emotion(s) controlling people. That assuredly did that to me, before seeing Born new by God in risen Son given me, free of charge.
Thanks
The big gift the Holy Spirit gives is the power to obey. There’s a big difference in Peter’s life before and after he received the Holy Spirit (in the upper room). Before, he had virtually no power to obey. After, he was a different person (Yeah, he was still a little flaky since Paul had to confront him) and had no recorded incidents of disobedience.
 
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I am sorry but I do not understand what you are saying.
To make a long explanation short
God seeks you to be willing to God to exchange your life for his risen life to live through you in love to all, as in
  1. 1 Corinthians 13:4
    Charity suffereth long, and is kind; charity envieth not; charity vaunteth not itself, is not puffed up,
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  2. 1 Corinthians 13:8
    Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
    In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  3. 1 Corinthians 13:13
    And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; but the greatest of these is charity.
To further reveal, as only God can reveal this truth, trusting God will reveal this to you too, as long as you do not ask amiss, wanting to have it for your own self gain.

Obedience is not of the flesh person, (first birth). No flesh could ever please God but Son's, as stated in Hebrews 10.
Not one person, ever was here on earth as perfect before God. The Son in due time, Jesus came to earth in the flesh and blood, born of woman and not man, The Virgin Mary from the tribe of Judah, in the lineage of King David whom was the lineage of Noah, Seth, Adam

Regardless the point is, no flesh can please God, it matters not how hard anyone tries, anyone in sincerity will mess up at least one command and not do it and try to and get caught up in under Law, being choked to death over not able to do it, convinced they are not in, in unbelief God by Son did it for us all
Romans 3:25
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
1 John 2:2
And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1 John 4:10
Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

This love of God given us, the people that not one of us deserve to get or have, ever, no matter how much good another might do better than another. (Luke 18:9-14)
My point is , I need God, I can not earn God, I do not always do right, but God does
The point is for us, me at least, to ask God for his life to live in place of our first birth of flesh and blood nature, that cannot please God (Rom 8:3)
Therefore, reckon self (First birth dead) to be alive to God in the risen Jesus for you, you, me and all that willingly believe God (Rom 6:1-12)