How do you know it wasn't done by witchcraft?

[know1]

I would think that if both you and other family members are witnessing the same events then a psychiatrist would not be beneficial. If on the other hand if you were the only family member then yes. The thing is though in what you have posted in the thread there are multiple family members experiencing this and so I an still of the the same mind as I have stated.

You have already stated that a "boyfriend" appeared in your life when this all began. You have stated that he is connected with witches/occult ect.ect. and I still suggest that you research "European witchcraft"(many nude pictures will come up so I wont give links on CC) but you will find that you are not alone in this experience. In fact the Romans began make laws about it thousands of years ago because they found that the witches(so called) were making these ointments(numerous types) as poisons,drugs ect. and using them on unsuspecting people. This also is documented across the middle ages and is making a come back among the new Wicca groups in modern day. Again from the details you have posted it looks to me to be this and not demons(Biblical) as you are thinking. By all means pray to the Lord to help for every matter not just this.

I understand I'm not the greatest communicator in the world but I think you are missing something that were stated.
But before I get into that I would first like to say, I do not hallucinate never have and I would never believe anybody who said otherwise start with. Even when I was doped up to have my wisdom teeth removed and told I wouldn't remember a thing, I not only remember everything but I did not hallucinate while they were operating on my teeth at the same time.
The first thing I would like to point out is that, the boyfriend did not come into my life but my daughters life.
Another is that these things that have been going on have transferred to other people and other states and even other countries who tried praying for us. So if you want to join in the fun, just do some serious praying for my wife in particular and watch what happens, if you think all this is just hallucinogenic drug related.
And this isn't just diarrhea and vomiting. There is a whole host of other bad things that have happened to my family and I, as well as those who have prayed for us.
There were others who got both the headaches and dizziness as well. I was the only one that had the big lump though.
I'm speaking of the lump, I said it went away immediately after I prayed, but what I did not say was how long I had to pray before it went away. Which was between a half hour and an hour both times.
So I do not need to check into the drug thing which is used, which I know they do use, but this definitely is not drug related in any way, and I'm not about to check either, because I know.
I understand you don't have the full story or know all the facts of what went on but at the same time you seem to be a very worldly or carly-minded person. And I'm not saying that to be insulting, but I do not nor have I ever listened to anybody other than those who are spiritually filled and walking with God, and you just don't seem to fit that image.

 

[SophieT]

You don't know the half of it.
How would you like your wife to know what you are thinking and what you are purposing to do in your heart as well as what you have done while you are away from her. It's hard to get away with anything with my wife not knowing about it. It goes the same for heard knowing about what my daughter is doing with her boyfriend.
How would you like to be with somebody like that?
However I would like to add that God does not show her every everything but those things that are more important or that which would have an effect on the family. Most of them are warnings of not to do certain things or to not go in a certain direction.
She tells me, when she was little, Jesus used to come to her every night and play with her while she slept, until one time Jesus said, he can no longer play with her. I don't know what age she was but she told me she asked him why and she didn't understand why he couldn't play with her anymore. But I think it had to do with her growing up. Kind of like the Peter Pan story.
Anyway, I think she's a special and precious person both to God and me, and I praise God for her.

how long have you assumed that the name Sophie is masculine? apart from that, why should I know the half of it? the half of what exactly? it sounds like you and your family are in DESPERATE need of spiritual counselling but I doubt you would accept it since you seem to think you have something special going on

I know what it is to battle the demonic and I have come out on the other side. Everything I know indicates to me you people are in the middle of something you cannot handle and you seem to enjoy 'bragging rights' on it. Think whatever about your wife but she sounds like some kind of spiritual catalyst for dark forces if what you state is true.

You say she has accurate dreams about people's private business? that is NOT God. Jesus never came to your wife when she was little and (cough cough) 'played' with her. that is demonic and not God...your wife needs deliverance and you need to wake up

I know what I am talking about so you can quit it with the super spiritual special blessings you think your wife has

I would bind that thing...sounds like you might need to fast and gather some strong Christian men with you. Otherwise, sounds like someone might physically die...you say your wife already did and some demon spoke through her

ALL demons are liars. You are playing with a strong demonic force and I wish you would clam up about it and deal with it

You do not have my sympathy because you might be harming people who do not know better, who come here to learn about Christ and instead they are learning about the demonic

Jesus has defeated the devil. Accept that truth and stop messing around with your pet demons.

The devil is defeated by the truth. It is not a power struggle

 

[SophieT]

The reason why I started this thread was to point out just how dead the church is in the West. I can say with confidence, that most denominational churches have never cast a spirit out of a person. They wouldn't know how. Because when a spirit starts laughing at you and telling you, you can't cast me out and it's not working, like many Christians do concerning Faith saying, that Faith stuff don't work, what do you think they're going to do? They're going to say, that person has mental issues, they need to seek professional help. Seriously?!
That's what I call a dead Church

get help

EVERY demon can be cast out and if they will not go, it is because they have a right to be there

your wife is the catalyst here for dark forces IF what you say is true. but you see her as a spiritual giant...she might be, but not for God

not insulting you...just telling you truth you need to hear.

In Jesus name I bind every spirit that might come against me or anything to do with me because I am telling the truth

The blood of Christ be between you and me satan. Jesus Christ is Lord

my last post in this thread. I just got chills so I know this is not a game here

 

[Dino246]

So what was your intent? To destroy?
And how am I supposed to know what this is all about, since, like this post, you never specifically said what exactly you took offense to.. You have been speaking in general and have not been specific.
It is my understanding you took offense to me calling the church dead and many if not most Christians, carnally minded. But you seemed to have taken that personally as though I directed it at you. And even though I didn't, I would say that is exactly what you are and most likely the kind of church you go to, if not pastor. At least according to my understanding and definition of what a carnally minded person and dead Church is.

Dude, this ain't about me. It never was. It's about you, your penchant for insulting others, your pride, and, most recently, your profound resistance to correction.

You need help.

I'm done.

 

[iamsoandso]

I understand I'm not the greatest communicator in the world but I think you are missing something that were stated.
But before I get into that I would first like to say, I do not hallucinate never have and I would never believe anybody who said otherwise start with. Even when I was doped up to have my wisdom teeth removed and told I wouldn't remember a thing, I not only remember everything but I did not hallucinate while they were operating on my teeth at the same time.
The first thing I would like to point out is that, the boyfriend did not come into my life but my daughters life.
Another is that these things that have been going on have transferred to other people and other states and even other countries who tried praying for us. So if you want to join in the fun, just do some serious praying for my wife in particular and watch what happens, if you think all this is just hallucinogenic drug related.
And this isn't just diarrhea and vomiting. There is a whole host of other bad things that have happened to my family and I, as well as those who have prayed for us.
There were others who got both the headaches and dizziness as well. I was the only one that had the big lump though.
I'm speaking of the lump, I said it went away immediately after I prayed, but what I did not say was how long I had to pray before it went away. Which was between a half hour and an hour both times.
So I do not need to check into the drug thing which is used, which I know they do use, but this definitely is not drug related in any way, and I'm not about to check either, because I know.
I understand you don't have the full story or know all the facts of what went on but at the same time you seem to be a very worldly or carly-minded person. And I'm not saying that to be insulting, but I do not nor have I ever listened to anybody other than those who are spiritually filled and walking with God, and you just don't seem to fit that image.

Well in the name of Jesus Christ I pray to my Lord on a daily basis. I pray when I see or hear an ambulance that my Lord is with them and is comfort to those who may be loosing their loved ones. I prayed when I saw the news of the apartment that collapsed the other day and ask my Lord to comfort the people in the loss of their loved ones. I prayed for you when you began your thread the same as I have for any who are facing difficult times in their lives. You and your family are no different than any of the others I have prayed for and those I will pray for in the future.

This demon you face, whom you refer to as Soul Snatcher has told an lie in error. That is if he has said to you to even suggest to others not to pray for you, and this is quite obvious in your former post you yourself are his victim. Then you see he has convinced you not only to pray yourself but to write the things you have which would only cause those who are weak to be afraid to pray for you and your family in fear. In post #13,,, the "hedge about" your family,,,have you prayed to the Lord and ask? I take great joy in my prayer unto my Lord. I pray to him to have the very same measure of blessing on you as I ask him to bless me and my family because the thing I ask my Lord for me I ask even for you. That is when I pray to the Lord concerning me I have a wonderful blessing in mind for mine own skin so to you and your family also the same wonderful blessing.

 

[know1]

how long have you assumed that the name Sophie is masculine? apart from that, why should I know the half of it? the half of what exactly? it sounds like you and your family are in DESPERATE need of spiritual counselling but I doubt you would accept it since you seem to think you have something special going on

I know what it is to battle the demonic and I have come out on the other side. Everything I know indicates to me you people are in the middle of something you cannot handle and you seem to enjoy 'bragging rights' on it. Think whatever about your wife but she sounds like some kind of spiritual catalyst for dark forces if what you state is true.

You say she has accurate dreams about people's private business? that is NOT God. Jesus never came to your wife when she was little and (cough cough) 'played' with her. that is demonic and not God...your wife needs deliverance and you need to wake up

I know what I am talking about so you can quit it with the super spiritual special blessings you think your wife has

I would bind that thing...sounds like you might need to fast and gather some strong Christian men with you. Otherwise, sounds like someone might physically die...you say your wife already did and some demon spoke through her

ALL demons are liars. You are playing with a strong demonic force and I wish you would clam up about it and deal with it

You do not have my sympathy because you might be harming people who do not know better, who come here to learn about Christ and instead they are learning about the demonic

Jesus has defeated the devil. Accept that truth and stop messing around with your pet demons.

The devil is defeated by the truth. It is not a power struggle

Let me just start by saying ma'am, I meant to say spouse instead of wife, so I do apologize for that.
My family and I do not need counseling, that's worthless to me. But I do indeed need help as I have been struggling. This is not a game for me or my family and neither have I been toying with the devil or demon. That's ridiculous to even suggest such a thing.
I just got done praying for about 40 to 45 minutes for my wife again, with my son, about a half hour ago, as my wife was in severe pain again.
I don't know where you people. think I'm bragging about being so spiritual or that I'm on top of things. On the contrary, it's been a real struggle for all of us in my family.
Like I said we've been at this for over a year now and she is getting better and stronger, and she has gained some weight back because the food is now staying down and she's not going to the bathroom as often. So we have made some progress, but we're still dealing with a lot of the same old garbage, and it is not fun, nor do I take any pleasure in it.
And I have to say, you have it totally backwards. It is not my wife that is the catalyst, but my daughter. My daughter is the one who is going with this magot, dabbled in the occult, at the very least, and every time she comes home, the pain starts coming on my wife.
And you'll have to forgive me for bragging on somebody I love, but to me she is very special and precious, as I said before. I personally could care less what you say or anyone else says to or about me, but I do care about what is said about my wife. Again, I understand you don't have the full story and you don't know what's really going on, but you really should get a clear picture of what's going on before you spout off and someone you know nothing about.
Like I said from the beginning, I've been married to this woman for 32 years now. I know this woman inside and out, and I can tell you she is nothing like what you have said. Most people don't care for me, which I'm fine with, but everyone who talks to my wife, likes her. And every Christian who talks to her, praises God he sent her to them. She is a very godly woman and not a demonic woman as you have suggested.
Think about this for a minute. Every time my daughter comes home from work, the pain starts my wife. During the day, she's fine. Like I said, I just got done praying for her because she was in pain again. And we know it's because of our daughter, and yet my wife, after all this time of suffering, is still trying to protect and lead our daughter back to God. I'm the one who wants to boot her out, as she is of age to where she can be on her own.
There's a couple issues as to why we have not kicked her out on her bottom. One of which is, we both know she will die shortly thereafter. We not only give her everything she could possibly need to where she has no expenses except for Auto insurance and gas, but we also have been protecting her spiritually. Hence, the reason why they have been attacking my wife.

 

[know1]

Dude, this ain't about me. It never was. It's about you, your penchant for insulting others, your pride, and, most recently, your profound resistance to correction.

You need help.

I'm done.

I'd like to shout out, you big hypocrite, you just described yourself, but whatever.

 

[know1]

get help

EVERY demon can be cast out and if they will not go, it is because they have a right to be there

your wife is the catalyst here for dark forces IF what you say is true. but you see her as a spiritual giant...she might be, but not for God

not insulting you...just telling you truth you need to hear.

In Jesus name I bind every spirit that might come against me or anything to do with me because I am telling the truth

The blood of Christ be between you and me satan. Jesus Christ is Lord

my last post in this thread. I just got chills so I know this is not a game here

Yeah I know demons can be cast out, I've been through this a few times now. But for my son and I, it has been a long hard fight each time we drove the thing out. So yeah, it does go out, but it's not so simple, nor do they leave just like that, as though there's nothing to it.
And by the way, since I have been with CC, which has been for a number of years now, I have yet to see even one thread about witchcraft. Not one. So you don't need to worry about people learning witchcraft, because nobody talks about it. Just like they don't talk about faith.

 

[know1]

I know what it is to battle the demonic and I have come out on the other side. Everything I know indicates to me you people are in the middle of something you cannot handle and you seem to enjoy 'bragging rights' on it. Think whatever about your wife but she sounds like some kind of spiritual catalyst for dark forces if what you state is true.

You say she has accurate dreams about people's private business? that is NOT God. Jesus never came to your wife when she was little and (cough cough) 'played' with her. that is demonic and not God...your wife needs deliverance and you need to wake up

I know what I am talking about so you can quit it with the super spiritual special blessings you think your wife has

I would bind that thing...sounds like you might need to fast and gather some strong Christian men with you. Otherwise, sounds like someone might physically die...you say your wife already did and some demon spoke through her

ALL demons are liars. You are playing with a strong demonic force and I wish you would clam up about it and deal with it

You do not have my sympathy because you might be harming people who do not know better, who come here to learn about Christ and instead they are learning about the demonic

Jesus has defeated the devil. Accept that truth and stop messing around with your pet demons.

The devil is defeated by the truth. It is not a power struggle

You not only sound like the secular world with stupid beliefs and advise, but also like a witch, or a tare among the wheat, posing to be a so-called Christian. Having the form of Godliness [not even close], but denying the power thereof.
You either have no clue as to what you're talking about or you are purposely being deceitful. I would expect as much from my enemies.
None of what you say makes any sense, let alone for a so-called Christian.
The things you are stating are the very things the witches, warlock, wizards, witchdoctors, satanist, and the like, want ever Christian to believe. I'd like to see you reason with and council a demon out of a person. Such dimwittedness.
It is written, "My people are destroyed for a LACK of knowledge".
The church is woefully inept to deal with witchcraft, and you think they shouldn't know anything about it? And why? So they can continue to suffer under the curses placed on them?
Jesus defeated the devil, but you have not, UNTIL YOU ACT ON HIS WORD IN FAITH.
Even as a child of God is not automatically forgiven of sins and cleanse of said sins by the blood of Jesus, except it be done in faith, neither will a demon come out of a person except you VERBALLY COMMAND THE THING TO LEAVE, IN FAITH, IN THE NAME OF JESUS.
NOTHING, AND I MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WILL HAPPEN ACCEPT YOU DO AS JAMES STATES.
FAITH WITHOUT A CORRESPONDING WORK, IS DEAD, BEING ALONE.
YOU MUST DO A CORRESPONDING WORK OR ACT BEFORE THE POWER OF GOD MOVES, AND SIMPLY BELIEVING THE DEVIL IS DEFEATED WILL ACCOMPLISH ZERO.
To every promise of God, there is a condition that must be met for God to move.
The doubt and unbelief you displayed would be staggering to even a carnally minded Christian.

 

[Beckie]

I used to say, most sickness comes on a person due to their sins, but this past year has opened up a new area of understanding for me.
In my earlier years, I would hear a voice tell me certain people, actually it was always women, were witches. I didn't think anything of it at the time, but just avoided contact with them, as I believed they were bad people and I shouldn't associate with them. I was also cautious around the person I was told was a witch.
I have a number of stories I could tell about someone having a gift, and another person would comment about that gift, whether it was how smart the person was how beautiful their hair, skin, or face was, after the comment, something would happen that caused the person to lose the very thing the other person commented on, and the one who commented on that said gift, received the very thing they noticed and commented on, and the person that had the gift, they received what the other person had. Just like Satan received Adam's power and authority, which was a blessing of and from God, and Adam received the devil's curse.
As a short example, my wife's brother, many years ago, was a very smart young man in high School, until one of his friends mentioned how smart he was. Her brother was acing all the tests with no problem and his friend was struggling and was not very smart at all. Until she noticed the reversal. How his friend was starting to Ace the tests and her brother was failing in classes now. So what happened? How did her brother lose his intelligence, so to speak, and his friend gets so smart so quickly?
Was it witchcraft?

This post explains a lot ..