How many times should someone read the Bible before teaching/forming strong opinions?

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zone

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Are you saying the Holy Spirit is no longer? The Father still manifests His gifts in willing servants. This will never change. When reading the Word there is no mention of the gifts ceasing in the present age, albeit there are those guided by misplaced intellectual endeavor who have the theory that somehow the gifts have ceased. As long as our Maker is in Three persons, the Holy Spirit is here for all who believe.
People who believe are permitted only to report and confess what they know by the Holy Spirit. You may consider us all quite mad if you wish, but approaching the Father and His will as an intellectual is certain failure in all.
How many times our Lord would teach the Gospel to those eager to hear the Words of Salvation while many, not all, of the scribes and pharisees, though men of the cloth, were not men of the spirit.

These latter did not understand, yet they presumed to tell our Lord He was in error. One of Yeshua's most telling lessons on this subject is simple and to the point. He said had they not said they see, when they were actually blind, they would not be guilty, but having said they see their guilt remains.

May Yahweh have mercy and give light to those who yet walk in darkness, amen.
I asked you a simple question, and I merit an honest reply. The teachings and the sharings here are Christian Fellowship in Bible discussion.
maybe i should have multi-quoted to begin with.
 

jb

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I notice there are a lot of people with really strong opinions on things in the Bible.
Often I find myself wondering, "How many of these people have read the entire Bible? How many of them have read it more than once?"

Then that question leads me to thinking, "How many times should someone read the Bible before they develop strong opinions on what's in the Bible? How many times should one read the Bible before they go about teaching, arguing, debating about stuff in it?"

I'm not talking about the simple fact of "Jesus is the only way to salvation."
That's a simple given thing even the newest believer should be firm on.
So let's exclude that issue from this debate/discussion.

Outside of having a strong opinion on Jesus being the only way to salvation, how many times should one read the Bible before they develop strong opinions on things, and how many times should one read the Bible before they go about debating/teaching/etc, said strong opinion/views?
You need to not only study (not just read) the Bible from cover to cover, you also need to study ALL the basic Christian doctrines (a good starting point are those listed in Heb 6v2) also having knowledge of what the cults and destructive heretics try and get accepted so that you can refute then from the Scriptures.

God the Father prepared the Lord Jesus at Nazareth in secret for His ministry through daily living (i.e., He was the carpenter at Nazareth), so that at the age of 30 He was 'full of grace and truth,' and thus we should imitate Him as He is our pattern in ALL things. Isaiah 49v2, 50v3-8, John 1v14, 1Cor 11v1, Heb 12v1,2.

Yahweh Shalom...
 
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1still_waters

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#83
You need to not only study (not just read) the Bible from cover to cover, you also need to study ALL the basic Christian doctrines (a good starting point are those listed in Heb 6v2) also having knowledge of what the cults and destructive heretics try and get accepted so that you can refute then from the Scriptures.

God the Father prepared the Lord Jesus at Nazareth in secret for His ministry through daily living (i.e., He was the carpenter at Nazareth), so that at the age of 30 He was 'full of grace and truth,' and thus we should imitate Him as He is our pattern in ALL things. Isaiah 49v2, 50v3-8, John 1v14, 1Cor 11v1, Heb 12v1,2.

Yahweh Shalom...
Yes implied in "reading" is actual study.

Nuance hunters..i tell ya..:p
 
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experience is the best teacher?
really?

.....

neatly blending that with a relationship with Jesus. hmm...

not one of us has seen God.
not one of us has seen Jesus.

where did He reveal Himself to us, who did not see Him?
where do we go to be fed by Him, to learn of what He said to us?

into ourselves?
to others?
to our experiences?

or to His written word, which is living and active?
i'm not sure what you are implying. but just because one person hasn't had the same experience that another had, doesn't mean the experience never happened.
 

RickyZ

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Sep 20, 2012
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I think the question itself is faulty. It doesn't matter how many times you've read the Bible, you should always still be reading it. And it doesn't matter what opinions you've formed from that, you should always still be learning from it. So although one should share their knowledge, understandings, and experiences, one should never hold them so strongly as to be concrete.

Know what you know, and show what you know, but know that you don't know it all.
 
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1still_waters

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#86
I think the question itself is faulty. It doesn't matter how many times you've read the Bible, you should always still be reading it. And it doesn't matter what opinions you've formed from that, you should always still be learning from it. So although one should share their knowledge, understandings, and experiences, one should never hold them so strongly as to be concrete.

Know what you know, and show what you know, but know that you don't know it all.
No not really.
There is nothing implied that you'll reach a point you quit reading.
The point is that you should be familiar with something before you go spouting off about it with so much umm...certainty. :p

And I do think one should hold certain things as concrete. Without such, you end up all oooshy gooshy.
 
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my boldness in Jesus didn't come from just reading the Word, or hearing what some one else had to say about the Word. My boldness in Jesus is from my experience with Him, and trying my best to do as Jesus says.Jesus has proven Himself to me so much, i can't deny Jesus, He has showed me so much. Faith comes by reading, and hearing, but the proof is in the life.
 
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I notice there are a lot of people with really strong opinions on things in the Bible.
Often I find myself wondering, "How many of these people have read the entire Bible? How many of them have read it more than once?"

Then that question leads me to thinking, "How many times should someone read the Bible before they develop strong opinions on what's in the Bible? How many times should one read the Bible before they go about teaching, arguing, debating about stuff in it?"

I'm not talking about the simple fact of "Jesus is the only way to salvation."
That's a simple given thing even the newest believer should be firm on.
So let's exclude that issue from this debate/discussion.

Outside of having a strong opinion on Jesus being the only way to salvation, how many times should one read the Bible before they develop strong opinions on things, and how many times should one read the Bible before they go about debating/teaching/etc, said strong opinion/views?
How many times did the apostles hand picked by the Lord, read the bible?