How Old Is The Earth?

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oldhermit

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Here is a better picture showing both dino prints side by side and the human print inside the right dino print.
 
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Here are some better pictures from that same site. Notice that in the first picture the human track was made first and the dino track made later and superimposed over part of the human track.


The above image is fake, a sculpture. I have not seen the bottom image before, it requires a little more digging. Your next post shows the image of a dinosaur footprint (It's quite obvious, especially if you compare it to the image I posted on this forum and compare!)

I've skimmed the website you linked, and I recognized most of the images - all of which have been proven fake.

Me and TinTin both explained the fossils. Could you please address our points. Again, we get nowhere if we just keep throwing "proofs" at each other without acknowledging former rebuttals.

(Did you know, cow manure was rested on top of the above carving to give it a rough appearance?)

I generally try to provide sources whenever I can, but I am short on time. If you're curious to see them, just ask and I'll provide them later.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Re: jacked...

Hey EG, I noticed you "liked this", perhaps the "great city" of revelation 17:18 ruled over the kings of the earth to established the function of God's dominion over the nations of the world and the victory that Christ brought in at Calvary/Jerusalem. Let's stick to the same system of literal hermeneutics now, genre doesn't matter.
lol..

The "great city" of rev 17

Read the whole chapter. which chapter 18. You will see that Jerusalem does not fit the things it claims.

read the whole chapter. not just one verse.

 

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Re: jacked...

lol..

The "great city" of rev 17

Read the whole chapter. which chapter 18. You will see that Jerusalem does not fit the things it claims.

read the whole chapter. not just one verse.

Do you think I haven't read it, EG? oh NM, it's not my intention to derail this thread.
 
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Re: jacked...

Do you think I haven't read it, EG? oh NM, it's not my intention to derail this thread.

Do you think I have never read it? And taken it and lined it up with all other prophesy?
 

oldhermit

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The above image is fake, a sculpture. I have not seen the bottom image before, it requires a little more digging. Your next post shows the image of a dinosaur footprint (It's quite obvious, especially if you compare it to the image I posted on this forum and compare!)

I've skimmed the website you linked, and I recognized most of the images - all of which have been proven fake.

Me and TinTin both explained the fossils. Could you please address our points. Again, we get nowhere if we just keep throwing "proofs" at each other without acknowledging former rebuttals.

(Did you know, cow manure was rested on top of the above carving to give it a rough appearance?)

I generally try to provide sources whenever I can, but I am short on time. If you're curious to see them, just ask and I'll provide them later.
[h=3]Glen J. Kuban has offered his opinion on this fossil and has suggested it is a fake but his arguments are weak and speculative. I am not a geologist nor do I have any background in geology but, I have been a hunter and tracker of animals all my life and just from my personal observation I can tell you that the human track was made first and that the dino track was super imposed upon the human track. Here is why. Since the dino track is deeper, if the human track had been made later over the dino track, the left outside toe and the middle toe would be distorted. The toes imprints would be spread inward toward the middle. As it is, they are sharply outlined and show no sings of distortion which means that it overlaps the human print.[/h] [h=1]The Delk - Footprint The Delk Footprint - Footprints in Stone[/h]

In the year 2000, 72 year old resident of Stephenville, TX and fossil hunter, Alvis Delk, was walking along a tributary of the Paluxy River when he came across a fairly large rock with a dinosaur footprint in it.
The rock was lodged between several other rocks and after about 45 minutes of work he was able to get the slab loose. He took it home and stored it with the rest of his other finds he had accumulated through the years.
In 2008, he was working on a ladder at his house when he fell and injured his back fairly severely. He needed money to pay off his medical debt and decided to sell the track. In preparation for selling the track, Mr. Delk began cleaning the dust and dirt off of the slab. In the process of cleaning up the rock, it revealed an amazing discovery.
Alvis Delk

Within the tip of the dinosaur footprint was the outline and shape of a human foot. The caked mud around the dinosaur track and on the rock had hidden the human footprint since its original discovery in 2000.
The rock clearly displayed all five toes, instep, and heel partially penetrated by a three toed theropod type of dinosaur. Soon after the discovery of the human footprint, it was sold to the Creation Evidence Museum where it remains on display.


Multiple spiral CT scans have been performed on the Delk print to verify its authenticity, and over 800 X-ray images document density changes within the rock that correspond precisely with fossil footprints. Spiral CT scan technology provides an effective means of analyzing fossil footprints without physically destroying them. The CT scan allows visualization of the inside of the rock, specifically, under the footprint. These spiral CT scans prove that the Delk Print is a genuine fossil human footprint.

The amazing thing about this print is that it not only contains a human footprint, but also a dinosaur footprint. The dinosaur actually stepped into the human footprint. The human had stepped in the mud and the foot impression was made first. Then, while the mud was still soft and fresh, a dinosaur came along and stepped in the mud with its middle toe intruding on and into the human track. In the Delk print, you can actually see the displaced mud from the dinosaur’s middle toe inside the human footprint.

According to evolutionary theory, the dinosaur tracks at Glen Rose, TX were made at least 100 million years before humans were supposed to have evolved. Of course dinosaurs and humans cannot be stepping in each others footprint if they are millions of year apart. These footprints provide profound evidence refuting the evolutionary myth, and this is undeniable evidence that man and dinosaur existed together. Not only does this print disprove evolution, but it supports the Biblical model of creation which states that all things were created in the beginning just as set forth in Genesis Chapter 1 of the Bible.









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Death before sin


Job 38.25 - 41

Who has cut a channel for the flood; or a way for the thunderclaps, to make it rain on the earth where no man is, a wilderness and no man in it; to satisfy the waste and desolation, and to cause the source of grass to sprout? Is there a father for the rain? Or who has given birth to the drops of dew? From whose womb comes forth the ice; and the frost of the heavens, who fathered it; the waters hidden like stone, and the face of the deep is captured? Can you bind the bands of the Pleiades, or loosen the cords of Orion? Can you bring out the constellations in their season; or can you guide the Bear with its sons? Do you know the limits of the heavens; can you establish their rulership on the earth? Can you lift your voice to the clouds, so that floods of water may cover you? Can you send lightnings, that they may go and say to you, Here we are? Who has put wisdom in the inward parts; or who has given understanding to the mind? Who can by wisdom number the clouds or who can lay down the jars of the heavens, when the dust is melted into hardness, and the clods cling fast together? Will you hunt the prey for the lion, or fill the appetite of the young lions, when they crouch in dens, and sit in the cover of their hiding place? Who provides food for the raven, when its young ones cry to God and wander about without food?


Here we have Yahweh giving Job a clinic on creation.

Observe that God provides Job with a list of the creation BEFORE mankind!

Lions hunting for prey? Lions are carnivores. This means that they stalked and killed their food, as plainly stated in the text.

Ravens are omnivores – which means that they also ate meat – which means animal death.

So…as you can see, all these things transpired BEFORE the first humans.

Animal death existed BEFORE Adam sinned.

Period.




Here we have a clinic on how to pull scripture verses to support one's opinion.
Does verse 26 suggest it's before the creation of man or simply say a land where no man lives or a desert with on one in it?
 
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Death before sin


Job 38.25 - 41

Who has cut a channel for the flood; or a way for the thunderclaps, to make it rain on the earth where no man is, a wilderness and no man in it; to satisfy the waste and desolation, and to cause the source of grass to sprout? Is there a father for the rain? Or who has given birth to the drops of dew? From whose womb comes forth the ice; and the frost of the heavens, who fathered it; the waters hidden like stone, and the face of the deep is captured? Can you bind the bands of the Pleiades, or loosen the cords of Orion? Can you bring out the constellations in their season; or can you guide the Bear with its sons? Do you know the limits of the heavens; can you establish their rulership on the earth? Can you lift your voice to the clouds, so that floods of water may cover you? Can you send lightnings, that they may go and say to you, Here we are? Who has put wisdom in the inward parts; or who has given understanding to the mind? Who can by wisdom number the clouds or who can lay down the jars of the heavens, when the dust is melted into hardness, and the clods cling fast together? Will you hunt the prey for the lion, or fill the appetite of the young lions, when they crouch in dens, and sit in the cover of their hiding place? Who provides food for the raven, when its young ones cry to God and wander about without food?


Here we have Yahweh giving Job a clinic on creation.

Observe that God provides Job with a list of the creation BEFORE mankind!

Lions hunting for prey? Lions are carnivores. This means that they stalked and killed their food, as plainly stated in the text.

Ravens are omnivores – which means that they also ate meat – which means animal death.

So…as you can see, all these things transpired BEFORE the first humans.

Animal death existed BEFORE Adam sinned.

Period.




Dude, You should stop trying to pull passages out to support your theory. An age long trick used to decieve people, and it seams decieve yourself.

From vs 12 in that passage on. God is talking about things which happen SINCE JOB WAS BORN...


[SUP]12 [/SUP]“Have you commanded the morning since your days began, And caused the dawn to know its place, [SUP]13 [/SUP]That it might take hold of the ends of the earth,..........
 
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Here we have a clinic on how to pull scripture verses to support one's opinion.
Does verse 26 suggest it's before the creation of man or simply say a land where no man lives or a desert with on one in it?

Job 38 is one of twenty chapter-length creation accounts in the Holy Bible, and it parallels the Gen 1 narrative.

Job 38 describes the scene BEFORE mankind was created.

Thus...the reader is informed of (the obvious!) carnivorous activity and death.
 
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Dude, You should stop trying to pull passages out to support your theory. An age long trick used to decieve people, and it seams decieve yourself.

From vs 12 in that passage on.
God is talking about things which happen SINCE JOB WAS BORN...

[SUP]12 [/SUP]“Have you commanded the morning since your days began, And caused the dawn to know its place, [SUP]13 [/SUP]That it might take hold of the ends of the earth,..........
No.

The narrative has Yahweh asking where Job was during these creation events.

Try again...
 
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Glen J. Kuban has offered his opinion on this fossil and has suggested it is a fake but his arguments are weak and speculative. I am not a geologist nor do I have any background in geology but, I have been a hunter and tracker of animals all my life and just from my personal observation I can tell you that the human track was made first and that the dino track was super imposed upon the human track. Here is why. Since the dino track is deeper, if the human track had been made later over the dino track, the left outside toe and the middle toe would be distorted. The toes imprints would be spread inward toward the middle. As it is, they are sharply outlined and show no sings of distortion which means that it overlaps the human print.

The Delk - Footprint The Delk Footprint - Footprints in Stone


In the year 2000, 72 year old resident of Stephenville, TX and fossil hunter, Alvis Delk, was walking along a tributary of the Paluxy River when he came across a fairly large rock with a dinosaur footprint in it.
The rock was lodged between several other rocks and after about 45 minutes of work he was able to get the slab loose. He took it home and stored it with the rest of his other finds he had accumulated through the years.
In 2008, he was working on a ladder at his house when he fell and injured his back fairly severely. He needed money to pay off his medical debt and decided to sell the track. In preparation for selling the track, Mr. Delk began cleaning the dust and dirt off of the slab. In the process of cleaning up the rock, it revealed an amazing discovery.
Alvis Delk

Within the tip of the dinosaur footprint was the outline and shape of a human foot. The caked mud around the dinosaur track and on the rock had hidden the human footprint since its original discovery in 2000.
The rock clearly displayed all five toes, instep, and heel partially penetrated by a three toed theropod type of dinosaur. Soon after the discovery of the human footprint, it was sold to the Creation Evidence Museum where it remains on display.


Multiple spiral CT scans have been performed on the Delk print to verify its authenticity, and over 800 X-ray images document density changes within the rock that correspond precisely with fossil footprints. Spiral CT scan technology provides an effective means of analyzing fossil footprints without physically destroying them. The CT scan allows visualization of the inside of the rock, specifically, under the footprint. These spiral CT scans prove that the Delk Print is a genuine fossil human footprint.

The amazing thing about this print is that it not only contains a human footprint, but also a dinosaur footprint. The dinosaur actually stepped into the human footprint. The human had stepped in the mud and the foot impression was made first. Then, while the mud was still soft and fresh, a dinosaur came along and stepped in the mud with its middle toe intruding on and into the human track. In the Delk print, you can actually see the displaced mud from the dinosaur’s middle toe inside the human footprint.

According to evolutionary theory, the dinosaur tracks at Glen Rose, TX were made at least 100 million years before humans were supposed to have evolved. Of course dinosaurs and humans cannot be stepping in each others footprint if they are millions of year apart. These footprints provide profound evidence refuting the evolutionary myth, and this is undeniable evidence that man and dinosaur existed together. Not only does this print disprove evolution, but it supports the Biblical model of creation which states that all things were created in the beginning just as set forth in Genesis Chapter 1 of the Bible.









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You just plagiarized your reply from a YEC website.

How is that going to promote your YEC position...?
 
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No.

The narrative has Yahweh asking where Job was during these creation events.

Try again...
No.

Vs 1 - 12 spoke of creation. Everything past was since his birth.

Try again
 
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No.

Vs 1 - 12 spoke of creation. Everything past was since his birth.

Try again

The sprouting of grass is even mentioned in verses 27 - 28....of which, is creation 'Day 3' according to Gen 1.

According to YOU, however, Job was born before Adam & Eve.

Sweet...
 
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Bowman, you jump through more hoops than a circus clown to justify your beliefs. I'm done with this nonsense. Goodbye.
 

oldhermit

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You just plagiarized your reply from a YEC website.

How is that going to promote your YEC position...?
The reply is mine. That did not come from the website. How do you feel there is any plagiarism in that post. If you need the web address for that site, I can provide it for you.
 
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The sprouting of grass is even mentioned in verses 27 - 28....of which, is creation 'Day 3' according to Gen 1.

According to YOU, however, Job was born before Adam & Eve.

Sweet...

lol. As tintin said, You jump so many hoops it is amazing


Grass springs forth all the time Not just in creation.

Dude, you remind me of a passage of scripture.

God is showing you truth, so that hearing you may not hear, and seeing you may not see. Your heart is hard. and nothing anyone says will even get you to think. You twist, and distort everything shown you. And for that. I feel sorry for you
 
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Bowman, you jump through more hoops than a circus clown to justify your beliefs. I'm done with this nonsense. Goodbye.

Come back when you learn scripture.
 
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The reply is mine. That did not come from the website. How do you feel there is any plagiarism in that post. If you need the web address for that site, I can provide it for you.
What you did was to word-smith your own words with text from a googled YEC website.

Not very honest.

This is commonly called plagiarism.
 

oldhermit

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What you did was to word-smith your own words with text from a googled YEC website.

Not very honest.

This is commonly called plagiarism.
Bowman, as usual, you are out of your mind.
 
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Owned completely....


lol. As tintin said, You jump so many hoops it is amazing


Grass springs forth all the time Not just in creation.

Dude, you remind me of a passage of scripture.

God is showing you truth, so that hearing you may not hear, and seeing you may not see. Your heart is hard. and nothing anyone says will even get you to think. You twist, and distort everything shown you. And for that. I feel sorry for you
No.

Grass does not begin to grow from desolation, as told to us un verse 27.

Study up...