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Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus ruled the Roman Empire from 27 BC to 14 AD.
Luke 2:1-5
1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Yet August did not always hold the title Divi filius during his reign, so A.D. might signify the period when Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus had was given the title as the Son of God. Yet they say that Cyrenius wasn't governor of Syria until 6 A.D.
So if Jesus was taken by the chief priests beyond Jordan to be baptised in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar Divi Augusti filius Augustus according to Luke 1.
Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
Luke 1:1
Thus if Augustus ruled until 14. A.D. and Tiberius had been ruling for 15 years then it would have been in 29 A.D. that the chief priests took him beyond Jordan to be baptized of John.
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Luke 3:22-23
However, it would seem more likely that in the first year of Augustus reign over the Roman Empire that he would decreed that the world would be taxed which would have meant that the in the 15 year of Tiberius rule then Jesus would have been 46 years old at the time of his baptism. And thus if 3 1/2 years till his public crucifixion that could explain why in John 8:57 "then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?"
Luke 2:1-5
1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Yet August did not always hold the title Divi filius during his reign, so A.D. might signify the period when Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus had was given the title as the Son of God. Yet they say that Cyrenius wasn't governor of Syria until 6 A.D.
So if Jesus was taken by the chief priests beyond Jordan to be baptised in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar Divi Augusti filius Augustus according to Luke 1.
Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
Luke 1:1
Thus if Augustus ruled until 14. A.D. and Tiberius had been ruling for 15 years then it would have been in 29 A.D. that the chief priests took him beyond Jordan to be baptized of John.
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Luke 3:22-23
However, it would seem more likely that in the first year of Augustus reign over the Roman Empire that he would decreed that the world would be taxed which would have meant that the in the 15 year of Tiberius rule then Jesus would have been 46 years old at the time of his baptism. And thus if 3 1/2 years till his public crucifixion that could explain why in John 8:57 "then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?"
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Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus ruled the Roman Empire from 27 BC to 14 AD.
Luke 2:1-5
1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Yet August did not always hold the title Divi filius during his reign, so A.D. might signify the period when Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus had was given the title as the Son of God. Yet they say that Cyrenius wasn't governor of Syria until 6 A.D.
So if Jesus was taken by the chief priests beyond Jordan to be baptised in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar Divi Augusti filius Augustus according to Luke 1.
Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
Luke 1:1
Thus if Augustus ruled until 14. A.D. and Tiberius had been ruling for 15 years then it would have been in 29 A.D. that the chief priests took him beyond Jordan to be baptized of John.
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Luke 3:22-23
However, it would seem more likely that in the first year of Augustus reign over the Roman Empire that he would decreed that the world would be taxed which would have meant that the in the 15 year of Tiberius rule then Jesus would have been 46 years old at the time of his baptism. And thus if 3 1/2 years till his public crucifixion that could explain why in John 8:57 "then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?"
Luke 2:1-5
1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Yet August did not always hold the title Divi filius during his reign, so A.D. might signify the period when Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus had was given the title as the Son of God. Yet they say that Cyrenius wasn't governor of Syria until 6 A.D.
So if Jesus was taken by the chief priests beyond Jordan to be baptised in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar Divi Augusti filius Augustus according to Luke 1.
Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
Luke 1:1
Thus if Augustus ruled until 14. A.D. and Tiberius had been ruling for 15 years then it would have been in 29 A.D. that the chief priests took him beyond Jordan to be baptized of John.
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Luke 3:22-23
However, it would seem more likely that in the first year of Augustus reign over the Roman Empire that he would decreed that the world would be taxed which would have meant that the in the 15 year of Tiberius rule then Jesus would have been 46 years old at the time of his baptism. And thus if 3 1/2 years till his public crucifixion that could explain why in John 8:57 "then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?"
Do you have any references for this for further study?
B
Well that's a classic statement what is important about this aka deeper understanding, that's for each person to decide, some folks fear reaching understandings that are not written, some have no problem with reaching for it, then others are content on what they have learned thus far from scriptures. I guess things of the bible are determine by the willingness of the individual rather it's important or not.
B
Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus ruled the Roman Empire from 27 BC to 14 AD.
Luke 2:1-5
1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Yet August did not always hold the title Divi filius during his reign, so A.D. might signify the period when Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus had was given the title as the Son of God. Yet they say that Cyrenius wasn't governor of Syria until 6 A.D.
So if Jesus was taken by the chief priests beyond Jordan to be baptised in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar Divi Augusti filius Augustus according to Luke 1.
Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
Luke 1:1
Thus if Augustus ruled until 14. A.D. and Tiberius had been ruling for 15 years then it would have been in 29 A.D. that the chief priests took him beyond Jordan to be baptized of John.
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Luke 3:22-23
However, it would seem more likely that in the first year of Augustus reign over the Roman Empire that he would decreed that the world would be taxed which would have meant that the in the 15 year of Tiberius rule then Jesus would have been 46 years old at the time of his baptism. And thus if 3 1/2 years till his public crucifixion that could explain why in John 8:57 "then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?"
Luke 2:1-5
1 And it came to pass in those days, that there went out a decree from Caesar Augustus, that all the world should be taxed.
2(And this taxing was first made when Cyrenius was governor of Syria.)
3 And all went to be taxed, every one into his own city.
4 And Joseph also went up from Galilee, out of the city of Nazareth, into Judaea, unto the city of David, which is called Bethlehem; (because he was of the house and lineage of David
5 To be taxed with Mary his espoused wife, being great with child.
Yet August did not always hold the title Divi filius during his reign, so A.D. might signify the period when Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus had was given the title as the Son of God. Yet they say that Cyrenius wasn't governor of Syria until 6 A.D.
So if Jesus was taken by the chief priests beyond Jordan to be baptised in the fifteenth year of Tiberius Caesar Divi Augusti filius Augustus according to Luke 1.
Now in the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius Caesar, Pontius Pilate being governor of Judaea, and Herod being tetrarch of Galilee, and his brother Philip tetrarch of Ituraea and of the region of Trachonitis, and Lysanias the tetrarch of Abilene,
Luke 1:1
Thus if Augustus ruled until 14. A.D. and Tiberius had been ruling for 15 years then it would have been in 29 A.D. that the chief priests took him beyond Jordan to be baptized of John.
22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased.
23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli,
Luke 3:22-23
However, it would seem more likely that in the first year of Augustus reign over the Roman Empire that he would decreed that the world would be taxed which would have meant that the in the 15 year of Tiberius rule then Jesus would have been 46 years old at the time of his baptism. And thus if 3 1/2 years till his public crucifixion that could explain why in John 8:57 "then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?"
For what it's worth, here's an interesting article on the significance of '50' or '50 years old' with respect to Jesus' age and the comment made in John 8:57. Particularly the second paragraph above the Notes at the bottom - based on when Pilate departed from Judea (winter of AD 36/37) and giving a birth year for about 6 BC (based on Herod's rule - the sort of maximum time spans), yields a maximum age of 43.
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange....7-and-the-age-of-jesus-before-his-crucifixion
https://hermeneutics.stackexchange....7-and-the-age-of-jesus-before-his-crucifixion
B
That's a good explaination, but I find a error in the authors write up, he doesn't realize Jesus was never part of the Pharisees temple service or nabernacle. Jesus came to do His Father's business. so the Pharisees wouldn't be symbolizing in John 8:57 with someone who wasn't apart of their doctrine of service. To many times I've seen folks think Jesus did what the Pharisees did as far a law goes, these dudes had their own laws of service.
B
Thank you for the info you supplied it was a interesting read.
some things in mind stand out as Jesus not taking part in those rituals of service, one clear one is at the tender age of 12 years old Jesus was teaching already in the synagogue. surely this isn't of typical fashion of the service in place already and there's other verses that mentions Jesus not being of those ways.
some things in mind stand out as Jesus not taking part in those rituals of service, one clear one is at the tender age of 12 years old Jesus was teaching already in the synagogue. surely this isn't of typical fashion of the service in place already and there's other verses that mentions Jesus not being of those ways.
Jewish calendar.....12 months 30 day lunar cycles....= 360 days
Tribulation, Reign of the Beast and Two witnesses prophesy <---1260 days or 3.5 years or 42 months......
7 years X 360 = 2520 days
2520 days - 1335 days = 1185 days
Look Daniel 12.....exactly 1335 days left......leaves 1185<--the ministry of Jesus in my view to the lost sheep of the house of Israel....they rejected as a nation so they endure the last 1335
again this is my view...
30 days of peace
1260 of tribulation
45 of wrath
1335 left ^^^<--30 plus 1260 plus 45 = 1335
Tribulation, Reign of the Beast and Two witnesses prophesy <---1260 days or 3.5 years or 42 months......
7 years X 360 = 2520 days
2520 days - 1335 days = 1185 days
Look Daniel 12.....exactly 1335 days left......leaves 1185<--the ministry of Jesus in my view to the lost sheep of the house of Israel....they rejected as a nation so they endure the last 1335
again this is my view...
30 days of peace
1260 of tribulation
45 of wrath
1335 left ^^^<--30 plus 1260 plus 45 = 1335
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