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In both these instances the people were saved.
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
This is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that they depart from iniquity being led of the Spirit, and there is no excuse.
Saying you cannot abstain from sin, and sin does not affect your relationship with God will not work, and some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, and it points out their sins, and they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
These people were saved, but they went back to enjoying sins, and if they do not correct it, then it would have been better if they had not known the truth than to know it and depart from it.
But there is a solution here, stop holding unto sin, and let it go, and allow the Spirit to lead you, and it can be forgiven.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Many people shall depart from the faith and follow the new age movement interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, which they do not acknowledge Jesus as Lord and Savior, but a good teacher in the evolutionary process and love, but not the final teacher, but the New Age Christ is the final teacher in the evolutionary process who will cause them to evolve to be greater and spiritual.
These people went back to the world not believing the Gospel of Christ, so they were back in the position of being in the world without Christ.
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
Once we are saved, let us leave the salvation process not doing it again, and the principles of Christ, and go on in our walk with God being more Christlike led of the Spirit.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
These people were saved, but they stopped believing the Gospel of Christ that He is Lord and Savior, and put themselves back in the position of being in the world without Christ.
There is no remedy for this for if they believe in Jesus as Lord and Savior again, then they have to repeat the process of salvation again, of having faith again, repenting of their dead works again, confessing Christ again, baptism again, in which it is impossible for them to be restored for they put Christ to an open shame.
A person can be restored if they confess their sins, for they will be forgiven, and have the proper attitude that they can abstain from sins by the Spirit, and sin does affect their relationship with God, but a person cannot be restored that believed Jesus is Lord and Savior, and then abandoned that, but then believed again and wanted to be saved again.
But if a person believes the new age movement and their interpretation of Jesus, but then decides that they are not correct by studying the Bible, and wise words of the mouth, they can be saved, for they did not abandon Jesus, and they are a sinner in need of salvation.
Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Jesus tells them to repent, and do the first works, and if not He will remove their candlestick out of its place, which does not sound good.
Rev 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Jesus tells them to repent for their works were not found perfect before God, and if not He will come upon them as a thief, and they shall not know what hour He comes upon them, which does not sound good.
Sounds like if they do not repent they are not saved, and works do matter, and a person saved can be back in a wrong position concerning salvation unless they correct it.
Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
This states that some do err from the truth, and when they do they are a sinner, and need to be converted again, and their soul is in the position of death, until they repent of their sins, and have the proper interpretation of truth.
God's kingdom is true love, and He is not evil to condemn people that have no choice but to reject the truth seeing no other alternative, especially when God said He wants all people to repent, and come to the truth, and be saved, and He is no respecter of persons, and said what makes you to differ from another person, and Jesus lights every person that comes in to this world, and Peter said that God is no respecter of person but in every nation those that fear Him, and works righteousness, is accepted of Him.
If you program your computer to say I love you, does your computer love you, and is it true love, and if you program your computer to say I hate you, will you get mad at your computer and smash it.
People should understand what they Bible is saying, for God is love, and not evil.
If people do not have a choice in their salvation then God would of not created the earth, but would of created the saints in glorified body to be with Him, and cut out the earth, for it has no purpose unless we have a choice in our salvation.
Many are called, but few are chosen, and God will work in the lives of those He called, but not all will be chosen for they did not accept the truth, and even some that confessed Jesus, but those that did accept the truth they would of not gotten to the truth unless God intervened in their life to get them to the truth, so God chose us we did not choose Him, but when we get to the door of truth we have to walk through it for God's kingdom is true love.
The saints are predestined to salvation means that God already had the plan to give mankind salvation before He laid down the foundation of the world, so it is the same as the saints having salvation in the beginning, although it was a future event, for God calls things that have not happened yet, as though they already happened, like the Lamb was slain, and the prophets blood shed, from the foundation of the world, although they were future events.
The Spirit and bride say Come, and anybody that wants that salvation can have that salvation, not you do not have a choice in your salvation and will be either saved, or damned.
I think some people interpret the Bible according to the flesh instead of the Spirit.
2Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.
This is what seals the saints, and how they are led of the Spirit, that they depart from iniquity being led of the Spirit, and there is no excuse.
Saying you cannot abstain from sin, and sin does not affect your relationship with God will not work, and some have a form of godliness, but deny the power thereof, and it points out their sins, and they are lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God.
2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.
These people were saved, but they went back to enjoying sins, and if they do not correct it, then it would have been better if they had not known the truth than to know it and depart from it.
But there is a solution here, stop holding unto sin, and let it go, and allow the Spirit to lead you, and it can be forgiven.
1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Many people shall depart from the faith and follow the new age movement interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, which they do not acknowledge Jesus as Lord and Savior, but a good teacher in the evolutionary process and love, but not the final teacher, but the New Age Christ is the final teacher in the evolutionary process who will cause them to evolve to be greater and spiritual.
These people went back to the world not believing the Gospel of Christ, so they were back in the position of being in the world without Christ.
Heb 6:1 Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God,
Heb 6:2 Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment.
Heb 6:3 And this will we do, if God permit.
Once we are saved, let us leave the salvation process not doing it again, and the principles of Christ, and go on in our walk with God being more Christlike led of the Spirit.
Heb 6:4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
Heb 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
Heb 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
These people were saved, but they stopped believing the Gospel of Christ that He is Lord and Savior, and put themselves back in the position of being in the world without Christ.
There is no remedy for this for if they believe in Jesus as Lord and Savior again, then they have to repeat the process of salvation again, of having faith again, repenting of their dead works again, confessing Christ again, baptism again, in which it is impossible for them to be restored for they put Christ to an open shame.
A person can be restored if they confess their sins, for they will be forgiven, and have the proper attitude that they can abstain from sins by the Spirit, and sin does affect their relationship with God, but a person cannot be restored that believed Jesus is Lord and Savior, and then abandoned that, but then believed again and wanted to be saved again.
But if a person believes the new age movement and their interpretation of Jesus, but then decides that they are not correct by studying the Bible, and wise words of the mouth, they can be saved, for they did not abandon Jesus, and they are a sinner in need of salvation.
Rev 2:4 Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
Rev 2:5 Remember therefore from whence thou art fallen, and repent, and do the first works; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will remove thy candlestick out of his place, except thou repent.
Jesus tells them to repent, and do the first works, and if not He will remove their candlestick out of its place, which does not sound good.
Rev 3:2 Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.
Rev 3:3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.
Jesus tells them to repent for their works were not found perfect before God, and if not He will come upon them as a thief, and they shall not know what hour He comes upon them, which does not sound good.
Sounds like if they do not repent they are not saved, and works do matter, and a person saved can be back in a wrong position concerning salvation unless they correct it.
Jas 5:19 Brethren, if any of you do err from the truth, and one convert him;
Jas 5:20 Let him know, that he which converteth the sinner from the error of his way shall save a soul from death, and shall hide a multitude of sins.
This states that some do err from the truth, and when they do they are a sinner, and need to be converted again, and their soul is in the position of death, until they repent of their sins, and have the proper interpretation of truth.
God's kingdom is true love, and He is not evil to condemn people that have no choice but to reject the truth seeing no other alternative, especially when God said He wants all people to repent, and come to the truth, and be saved, and He is no respecter of persons, and said what makes you to differ from another person, and Jesus lights every person that comes in to this world, and Peter said that God is no respecter of person but in every nation those that fear Him, and works righteousness, is accepted of Him.
If you program your computer to say I love you, does your computer love you, and is it true love, and if you program your computer to say I hate you, will you get mad at your computer and smash it.
People should understand what they Bible is saying, for God is love, and not evil.
If people do not have a choice in their salvation then God would of not created the earth, but would of created the saints in glorified body to be with Him, and cut out the earth, for it has no purpose unless we have a choice in our salvation.
Many are called, but few are chosen, and God will work in the lives of those He called, but not all will be chosen for they did not accept the truth, and even some that confessed Jesus, but those that did accept the truth they would of not gotten to the truth unless God intervened in their life to get them to the truth, so God chose us we did not choose Him, but when we get to the door of truth we have to walk through it for God's kingdom is true love.
The saints are predestined to salvation means that God already had the plan to give mankind salvation before He laid down the foundation of the world, so it is the same as the saints having salvation in the beginning, although it was a future event, for God calls things that have not happened yet, as though they already happened, like the Lamb was slain, and the prophets blood shed, from the foundation of the world, although they were future events.
The Spirit and bride say Come, and anybody that wants that salvation can have that salvation, not you do not have a choice in your salvation and will be either saved, or damned.
I think some people interpret the Bible according to the flesh instead of the Spirit.