How to get Answers to Prayer (#1)

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Locoponydirtman

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God answers prayers according to his Grace and Mercy, not our begging, or demanding, or attempting to hold God to his promise. In fact I you think you have to demand God keep his promise you are not worshipping the true God.
Us acting as if we have to hold God to his word is lack of faith on our part.
We pour out our hearts to God and he deals with it as he see fit. Sometimes he makes us go through and deal with our troubles, and some times he removes the problem or solves it for us, but it however he sees fit, because his goal is to refine you, not spoil you like a brat child, but to raise you up and mature you, and make you into the his own image. Which is what we were created to be, but lost in sin.
 
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Let me be very clear! Without Faith in Christ and the Finished Work at Calvary Cross (The Lamb of God), God writes void on your prayers (Gal. 2:21). There are not many Righteous men and women in this world.

The only way to God is through Jesus Christ (John 14:6)...the only way to Jesus Christ is by the Means of the Cross (Luke 14:27). The only way to the Cross is a denial of self (Luke 9:23). If any person tries to come any other way, Jesus says, "they are a thief and a robber" (John 10:1).
The Miracle of God’s Word

Proverbs 30:13
There is a generation, O how lofty are their eyes! And their eyelids are lifted up.

This same generation that is pure in their own eyes mentioned in the previous verse, here is revealed as to why. Lofty eyes are eyes that lust after everything other than that which is God’s plan and His one Way to experience that plan. The eyelids being lifted up is the arrogant attitude that goes along with pride for all to see, yet even if men do not recognize it, God always does, and He resists it (1 Peter 5:5).

Everything man trusts in for any and all of God’s provision outside of the very work of Christ on the cross is arrogance to God, vain imagination, and high things that are against His knowledge. These He will resist without doubt. To trust in the work of Christ AND ANYTHING OTHER is a statement to God that Christ’s work at Calvary was not enough. This is what the Bible describes as a double minded man (James 1:7-8), who cannot expect to receive anything from the Lord.

Seeking God in His Word and experiencing Him through faith in the sacrifice of Christ!

Pastor Curtis
 

Tinkerbell725

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God answers prayers according to his Grace and Mercy, not our begging, or demanding, or attempting to hold God to his promise. In fact I you think you have to demand God keep his promise you are not worshipping the true God.
Us acting as if we have to hold God to his word is lack of faith on our part.
We pour out our hearts to God and he deals with it as he see fit. Sometimes he makes us go through and deal with our troubles, and some times he removes the problem or solves it for us, but it however he sees fit, because his goal is to refine you, not spoil you like a brat child, but to raise you up and mature you, and make you into the his own image. Which is what we were created to be, but lost in sin.

I agree. God can do whatever He wants. He can even spoil us if he choose to. He is an extravagant God after all. Even evil people know how to give good gifts to their children. How much more is our Heavenly father?


Luke 11:13 KJV

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
 
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Malachi 3:10 - King James Version
Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the Lord of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
He's kinda daring you/me/us to hold him to his word on this to see if he keeps his promises or not. Spoiler Alert: He does. :)

BTW, are you looking for failure or success? (because you're posting suggests you were hoping for failure)

If success, would you please share a success story where you were able to get prayer to work + what was it that caused that particular prayer to be successful? (because I am looking for success, and I know God wants to give success to you in this area if he hasn't already)

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
The tithe and offering MUST be in good ground. If the Church is not preaching Christ Crucified (Pauls gospel - Rom. 2:16, 1 Cor. 1:18, how we will be judged), it is bad ground and rotten fruit.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I agree. God can do whatever He wants. He can even spoil us if he choose to. He is an extravagant God after all. Even evil people know how to give good gifts to their children. How much more is our Heavenly father?


Luke 11:13 KJV

If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?
Key word good.
Raising you up to be in his image is not accomplished by spoiling you. That causes people to have sinful character defects.
So you can dump that health, wealth, prosperity nonsense where it belongs, in the trash can with the other refuse.
 

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Key word good.
Raising you up to be in his image is not accomplished by spoiling you. That causes people to have sinful character defects.
So you can dump that health, wealth, prosperity nonsense where it belongs, in the trash can with the other refuse.

Yes good gifts. God is more generous than just health, wealth and prosperity that you call non sense.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Yes good gifts. God is more generous than just health, wealth and prosperity that you call non sense.
Yes his gifts are good, justification, purification, and eternal life.
You can try and sell that materialistic stuff to the Christians being persecuted in Africa, Asia, and the middle East. Tell it to our brother in Somalia who hides and sneaks to meet and pray, because his faith will have him killed, like his neighbor who's wife and kids were dragged off to the slave market, while he was crucified on his door posts. Or our brothers in China where they have a few pages of the Bible that they pass between each other because the possession of a Bible is a death sentence.
Or maybe you can tell it to the disiples that were hunted and imprisoned tortured and killed. Where Paul asks that his friends send his coat because he needs it while being held in chains.
No white suits, rolex, or Mercedes car for them. Just chains and beatings and destitution in the cold prison such as that they ask for something simple as a coat.
 

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Yes his gifts are good, justification, purification, and eternal life.
You can try and sell that materialistic stuff to the Christians being persecuted in Africa, Asia, and the middle East. Tell it to our brother in Somalia who hides and sneaks to meet and pray, because his faith will have him killed, like his neighbor who's wife and kids were dragged off to the slave market, while he was crucified on his door posts. Or our brothers in China where they have a few pages of the Bible that they pass between each other because the possession of a Bible is a death sentence.
Or maybe you can tell it to the disiples that were hunted and imprisoned tortured and killed. Where Paul asks that his friends send his coat because he needs it while being held in chains.
No white suits, rolex, or Mercedes car for them. Just chains and beatings and destitution in the cold prison such as that they ask for something simple as a coat.


I get your point. People also pray for what you mentioned and not just for themselves. Those kind of prayers bring about the higher powers of God and can glorify Him more. But is it really wrong to ask for small things, for a little comfort or convenience? For God, sky is the limit since He said ask and you shall receive. I don't think He would mind. He simply said just ask.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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I get your point. People also pray for what you mentioned and not just for themselves. Those kind of prayers bring about the higher powers of God and can glorify Him more. But is it really wrong to ask for small things, for a little comfort or convenience? For God, sky is the limit since He said ask and you shall receive. I don't think He would mind. He simply said just ask.
Nothing wrong with asking, and he may see fit to give those things. It certainly should not be our focus, and we can't leverage good works or make empty promises and you certainly can't hold his feet to the fire. If he sees fit to give you material things then feel grateful, and learn contentment. Because he may choose for you hardships. what ever he thinks is best for you.
 

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My prayer life changed dramatically when I started to pray the Word. I memorized a ton of Scripture on various topics and started praying them. This taught me to line up my prayers with His Will (Word). My husband and I also write "psalms" for specific situations. We then "pray" these psalms out loud. The results have been incredible and it really strengthens our faith.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Now to say something totally controversial. I find it difficult to pray at least the way I have seen it modeled. God's will is sovereign, and he is always out to do what is best for you, then any thing other than thanks giving and praise is a bit superfluous.
He knows how I feel about stuff so it's Abit of a whinging session if I'm on about my whoas, so why bother to say it?
 

KelbyofGod

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My prayer life changed dramatically when I started to pray the Word. I memorized a ton of Scripture on various topics and started praying them. This taught me to line up my prayers with His Will (Word). My husband and I also write "psalms" for specific situations. We then "pray" these psalms out loud. The results have been incredible and it really strengthens our faith.
Thank you for providing an example of something specific that is working for you.

Speaking the word in prayer is something specific others can try also.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

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God always keeps his promises. I don't care for the phrase " hold God to his promises" though. With people one may hold another to their promises when that person is reluctant to follow through. With God, he is generous and delights in keeping his word. Sometimes in prayer we may receive a yes or a no or have to wait for a time but God is good and faithful and knows exactly what he is doing.
 

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Now to say something totally controversial. I find it difficult to pray at least the way I have seen it modeled. God's will is sovereign, and he is always out to do what is best for you, then any thing other than thanks giving and praise is a bit superfluous.
He knows how I feel about stuff so it's Abit of a whinging session if I'm on about my whoas, so why bother to say it?
Psalm 62:8

I agree it should not be a whining session.


Yes his gifts are good, justification, purification, and eternal life.
You can try and sell that materialistic stuff to the Christians being persecuted in Africa, Asia, and the middle East. Tell it to our brother in Somalia who hides and sneaks to meet and pray, because his faith will have him killed, like his neighbor who's wife and kids were dragged off to the slave market, while he was crucified on his door posts. Or our brothers in China where they have a few pages of the Bible that they pass between each other because the possession of a Bible is a death sentence.
Or maybe you can tell it to the disiples that were hunted and imprisoned tortured and killed. Where Paul asks that his friends send his coat because he needs it while being held in chains.
No white suits, rolex, or Mercedes car for them. Just chains and beatings and destitution in the cold prison such as that they ask for something simple as a coat.
Please quote the verse about Paul asking his friend to send his coat. I don't remember reading that. I didn't know about that
 
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Now to say something totally controversial. I find it difficult to pray at least the way I have seen it modeled. God's will is sovereign, and he is always out to do what is best for you, then any thing other than thanks giving and praise is a bit superfluous.
He knows how I feel about stuff so it's Abit of a whinging session if I'm on about my whoas, so why bother to say it?
Think of God sovereignty more of, he has already answered with a yes and it has been deposited into your heart.

When you take the Word of God, which is an incorruptible seed, and meditate and speak out on his promises, you are planting those seeds into your heart. When we go to God with His Word, it builds our faith. It shows that we are standing on His promises. It shows that we are obedient because we love Him and believe He has our very best interest at heart, and that is what pleases Him.

And yes, eventually, the seed will grow, depending on the condition of your heart, as the parable of the seed and the sower goes.
 
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Locoponydirtman

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Psalm 62:8

I agree it should not be a whining session.




Please quote the verse about Paul asking his friend to send his coat. I don't remember reading that. I didn't know about that
For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come. I have fought the good fight, I have finished the course, I have kept the faith; in the future there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day; and not only to me, but also to all who have loved His appearing. Make every effort to come to me soon; for Demas, having loved this present world, has deserted me and gone to Thessalonica; Crescens has gone to Galatia, Titus to Dalmatia. Only Luke is with me. Pick up Mark and bring him with you, for he is useful to me for service. But Tychicus I have sent to Ephesus. When you come bring the cloak which I left at Troas with Carpus, and the books, especially the parchments. Alexander the coppersmith did me much harm; the Lord will repay him according to his deeds. Be on guard against him yourself, for he vigorously opposed our teaching.
2 Timothy 4:6‭-‬15 NASB
https://bible.com/bible/100/2ti.4.6-15.NASB
 

KelbyofGod

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God answers prayers according to his Grace and Mercy, not our begging, or demanding, or attempting to hold God to his promise. In fact I you think you have to demand God keep his promise you are not worshipping the true God.
Us acting as if we have to hold God to his word is lack of faith on our part.
We pour out our hearts to God and he deals with it as he see fit. Sometimes he makes us go through and deal with our troubles, and some times he removes the problem or solves it for us, but it however he sees fit, because his goal is to refine you, not spoil you like a brat child, but to raise you up and mature you, and make you into the his own image. Which is what we were created to be, but lost in sin.
Would you be so kind as to share something you prayed and how God answered so others can "see how it's done" (so to speak)?

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

KelbyofGod

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I'll share a multi-layered request that God was kind enough to grant me.

Here's a little background:
God has done a lot for me and I tend to ask as if he is inclined towards giving, not as if he is stingy. So I was asking to see a biblical scale miracle because he'd done a lot for me but they were seemingly small (in size) and the word miracle implied "bigger" stuff.

In church that week when Pastor read the passage "Count it all joy when you fall into diverse temptations" the concept of a Gilligan's Island style trap popped into my head... the kind where someone had dug a big hole in the middle of the path and covered it with palm trees and sand to look like part of the path. When someone walked down the path and inadvertently stepped onto the roof of the trap, the roof collapsed and the person would fall into the hole and be trapped. It wasn't scary because in the end you knew they'd get out, but it was interesting to watch to find out HOW. It was noteworthy that if the person had been paying closer attention, they COULD have perceived and avoided the trap. It was also noteworthy that the punishment for that last casual step seemed disproportionate to the "crime" of not paying attention whilst taking a stroll. Nevertheless, the person was stuck in the hole with no apparent way out. THAT is what stood out to me about that bible passage. We should count it all joy because it would be interesting to see how God would get us out! Fast forward a few days:

I was at work with boss a who was more interested in protecting their own image than others' well-being. There was a slate pool table that needed to be moved. I said "Hey, let me go grab a cart to make this easier(safer)". Boss says "No, let's just get this done." So I complied and bent down to hoist my corner. While I'd been delayed, they'd positioned themselves and began lifting while I was still trying to get my feet positioned. The pool table moved up and away from me, forcing me to lift from a 'non-recommended' position while the weight shifted to my corner. It turns out there's a REASON those positions are not recommended..lol. So I ended up overstressing my back. I'd hurt my back before and had learned that the sooner you start feeling the pain, the worse the injury is. Within the hour it hurt significantly (usually it took 12-36 hours). And within 3 days I was nearly bedridden. On Friday my wife said "This is serious. You need to go to the doctor." I said "Not before I go to church. I want to see what God is going to do about it" And I explained what I'd seen. Fast forward to church:

So I went to church excited and expectant to see God move (as commanded by that verse from last week)...but I didn't know how or particularly when it would happen. I thought perhaps at some point they'd ask who needed prayer and they'd lay hands on me or something of that nature. But what happened was that as we were singing I started to get healed. And as I was noticing relief in one position it was like I could hear "OK, but you'd better not push it by moving this [previously painful] way". I"m like "Forget that! I'm getting healed!" So I'd move that in that discouraged direction and that pain would flee. Same thing happened with another previously painful motion...and another...and another. Pretty soon I'm twisting and bending all over the place. Probably looked like I was trying to dance...poorly. But I'm a white guy. I figure I've got an excuse to dance with no rhythm.. lol. And as you probably guessed, I ended up fully healed.

BUT... this is where the multi-layered part comes in: And my apologies for the length:

As you may have noticed, my back healing was not instantaneous. And I'm an analyzer who questions pretty much everything. So, as my back was getting healed I started to look for other infirmities, figuring God was going to take care of them all at the same time.

So I thought about my glasses. I've had my eyes prayed for but I've struggled to receive that particular healing. So I took off my glasses and tried some of those 'you can't do this' kind of things. And guess what... I still couldn't do them. And I thought "How is it that I've got enough faith to be miraculously healed in one area but can't seem to get healed in another area?? It's not like one is harder than the other for God." And I was also asking God that question because I was starting to feel discouraged...in the middle of getting healed.

His answer was (I'm paraphrasing) "I set before you life AND death. As long as you're in this life you will have both life and death presented to you. It is up to you which you choose [to focus on]."

And I guess this is the part where the rejoicers get to rejoice, and the nay-sayers get to nay-say. :)

Meanwhile, I get to rejoice for two reasons at least. One that I got healed. And TWO, that I get to share a testimony of how good God is. (that's kind of a bucket list item I can check off now.)

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 

KelbyofGod

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God always keeps his promises. I don't care for the phrase " hold God to his promises" though. With people one may hold another to their promises when that person is reluctant to follow through. With God, he is generous and delights in keeping his word. Sometimes in prayer we may receive a yes or a no or have to wait for a time but God is good and faithful and knows exactly what he is doing.
Hi CherieR,
It seems odd to say we should (or even are allowed to) hold God's promises up to him as if there is a chance he won't do them...but consider how Moses negotiated with God in Exodus 32.

Exodus 32:9-14 KJV
And the LORD said unto Moses, I have seen this people, and, behold, it is a stiffnecked people: [10] Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may wax hot against them, and that I may consume them: and I will make of thee a great nation. [11] And Moses besought the LORD his God, and said, LORD, why doth thy wrath wax hot against thy people, which thou hast brought forth out of the land of Egypt with great power, and with a mighty hand? [12] Wherefore should the Egyptians speak, and say, For mischief did he bring them out, to slay them in the mountains, and to consume them from the face of the earth? Turn from thy fierce wrath, and repent of this evil against thy people. [13] Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, thy servants, to whom thou swarest by thine own self, and saidst unto them, I will multiply your seed as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have spoken of will I give unto your seed, and they shall inherit it for ever. [14] And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

That fits my definition effective praying. Think of how many lives were spared that day. God didn't get angry for him praying like that. He responded to it.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby