I Samuel 4

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Sorry, the Jews have never lost God's approval. They are still the chosen people.
Hello kaylagirl.
It seems that believing Jews have never lost Gods' approval and are still his chosen people because of their faith in him,

And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness. Gen.15:6

Unbdlieving Jews have lost Gods' approval and are still not his chosen people,

for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God. Hos.1:9
 

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- Maybe you should read a bit more the Bible, either the first part or the second one or both!

- The Bible is always a relationship between God and an individual, not between God and a people!

- A relationship between God and Abraham to whom he makes the promise of making him a great nation and gives the land of Canaan!

- God tells Abram that his offspring will be foreigners in a foreign country and enslaved and afflicted for 400 years. But after that, God will free them. And Abram will die old. And his offspring will come back to canaan. And God makes a covenant with Abram and a promise about the promised land!

- God says that Sodom and Gomorrah behave really bad so he sends his angels there but he remains with Abraham! Then Abraham has an argument with God about possible righteous men there. And he tells god he can’t destroy these cities if there are righteous men there starting from 50 and going down to 10 (50,45,40,30,20,10). And each time God says he will not destroy the cities in case he finds righteous men.

- Exodus 23-25:
After a long time, the king of Egypt died, but the Israelites continued to groan because of the slavery and to cry out in complaint, and their cry for help because of the slavery kept going up to the true God. In time God heard their groaning, and God remembered his covenant with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. So God looked on the Israelites; and God took notice.

- Exodus 24:7-8
Then he took the book of the covenant and read it aloud to the people. And they said: “All that God has spoken we are willing to do, and we will be obedient.” So Moses took the blood and sprinkled it on the peoplei and said: “This is the blood of the covenant that God has made with you in harmony with all these words.”

- Exodus 32
Meanwhile, the people saw that Moses was taking a long time coming down from the mountain. So the people gathered around Aaron and said to him: “Get up, make for us a god who will go ahead of us, because we do not know what has happened to this Moses, the man who led us up out of the land of Egypt.” At this Aaron said to them: “Take the gold earrings from the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters and bring them to me.” So all the people began taking off the gold earrings that were in their ears and bringing them to Aaron. Then he took the gold from them, and he formed it with an engraving tool and made it into a statue of a calf. They began to say: “This is your God, O Israel, who led you up out of the land of Egypt.” When Aaron saw this, he built an altar before it. Then Aaron called out: “There is a festival to God tomorrow.” So they got up early on the next day and began offering up burnt offerings and presenting communion sacrifices. After that the people sat down to eat and drink. Then they got up to have a good time. God now said to Moses: “Go, descend, because your people, whom you led up out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves.They have quickly deviated from the way I commanded them to go. They have made for themselves a statue of a calf, and they keep bowing down to it and sacrificing to it and saying, ‘This is your God, O Israel, who led you up out of the land of Egypt.’” God went on to say to Moses: “I have seen that this is an obstinate people. So now let me be, and I will exterminate them in my burning anger, and let me make a great nation from you instead.” Then Moses appealed to his God and said: “Why, O God, should you turn your burning anger against your people after bringing them out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? Why should the Egyptians say, ‘He had evil intentions when he led them out. He wanted to kill them in the mountains and exterminate them from the surface of the earth’? Turn from your burning anger and reconsider your decision to bring this calamity on your people. Remember your servants Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, to whom you swore by yourself and said: ‘I will multiply your offspring like the stars of the heavens, and I will give all this land that I have designated to your offspring, so that they may take it as a permanent possession.’” So God began to reconsider the calamity that he had spoken of bringing on his people.

- And it keeps on going like that all the time!
 

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Looking for Samuel

2 Samuel 23

- We are told about David’s last words:
The God of Israel spoke; To me the Rock of Israel said: ‘When the one ruling over mankind is righteous, Ruling in the fear of God, It is like the morning light when the sun shines, A morning without clouds. It is like the brightness after the rain, Making grass sprout from the earth.’ Is not my house like that before God? For he has made an eternal covenant with me, Arranged in every detail and secured. Because it means my complete salvation and all my delight, Is that not why he makes it flourish?


- Then he speaks about all his mighty warriors!

- Yes, David is a man of war!

- But he doesn’t say anything about the high price he had to pay because he took somebody’s wife and he killed her husband!

- And he had to pay for the rest of his life!

- So once again, Samuel was completely right!

- Every king brought trouble in Israel!

- War and violence!

- Badness!

- It seems he doesn’t want to think about his bad actions!

- But at the end everyone must pay for it!

- And man is paying for it every day!

- And the price will be more expensive and everybody will see the consequences!

- And some men are warning!

- But the majority doesn’t care as usual!
 

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3) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

- And Samuel had the opportunity to communicate with God through dreams!

- And it was at a time when God hadn’t communicated with men for a long time because of the Israelites’ misconduct!

- And God tells Samuel his judgment against Eli and his sons!

- They will die!

- Thus he will learn that God is right but when you misbehave you must pay the price which can mean death!

- It often happened to the Israelites!

- They could have even been annihilated many times!

- And they never understood!
 

JLG

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6) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

Also, the cities that the Philistines had taken from Israel were returned to Israel, from Ekron to Gath, and Israel recovered their territory from the hand of the Philistines. There was also peace between Israel and the Amorites. Samuel kept on judging Israel throughout his life. Each year he traveled in a circuit to Bethel, Gilgal, and Mizpah, and he judged Israel in all these places. But he would return to Ramah, because his house was there, and there he also judged Israel. He built an altar there to God.

- Samuel was a real leader!

- And he would keep being a leader all the days of his life!

- Without SAMUEL Israel was nothing!

- They were completely unable to communicate with God!

- A CHOSEN MAN, NOT A CHOSEN PEOPLE!
 

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11) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

However, the people refused to listen to what Samuel told them, and they said: “No, we are determined to have a king over us. Then we will be like all the other nations, and our king will judge us and lead us and fight our battles.” After Samuel heard all the words of the people, he repeated them in the hearing of Jehovah. Jehovah said to Samuel: “Listen to them, and appoint a king to reign over them.” Samuel then said to the men of Israel: “Each of you should return to his city.”

- Stubborn they are, stubborn they stay!

- Even here they are wrong because they won’t be like all the other nations, they have always been!

- And they will stay a nation of losers defeated by their enemies except when God fights for them but not because of them!

- And SAMUEL tells the Israelites according to God’s will!

- But he was angry at them!
 

JLG

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15) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

Then God sent Jerubbaal and Bedan and Jephthah and Samuel and rescued you from the hand of the enemies all around you, so that you could live in security. When you saw that Naʹhash, the king of the Ammonites, had come against you, you kept saying to me, ‘No, we are determined to have a king over us!’ even though God your God is your King. Now here is the king whom you have chosen, the one you asked for. Look! God has appointed a king over you. If you fear God and serve him and obey his voice and you do not rebel against the order of God, and both you and the king who reigns over you follow God your God, fine.

- What? Fear and serve and obey and not rebel and follow?

- It is always possible to dream!

- But for Israel it is impossible! They just do it when they are in big trouble and when they struggle for survival! But it never lasts!
 

JLG

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19) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

For the sake of his great name, God will not abandon his people, for God has taken it upon himself to make you his people. As for me, it is unthinkable for me to sin against God by ceasing to pray in your behalf, and I will continue to instruct you in the good and right way. Only fear God, and serve him faithfully with all your heart, for see what great things he has done for you. But if you flagrantly do what is bad, you will be swept away, both you and your king.”

- Samuel keeps praying for Israel in spite of their bad deeds!

- Because it is God’s will!

- With all their heart!

- Well, they have no idea what it means!

- They don’t care at all!

- And God will sweep them away, both Israel and its king!
 

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23) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

- When Samuel anoints Saul as king, he tells him to destroy the Amalekites because they oppose Israel when they were coming from Egypt!

- So Saul goes after the Amalekites but he doesn’t kill their king Agag and keeps the best of the flock and all that is good!

- They did not destroy everything according to God’s will!

- God tells Samuel that he regrets that he has made Saul king!

- Samuel becomes very upset and keeps crying out to God all night long!

- And Saul rejects the mistake on the Israelites!

- Thus Samuel tells Saul God has rejected him as king of Israel!

- Thus another one will be anointed as king over Israel!

- And Samuel kills Agag the king of the amalekites!

- Samuel never sees Saul again!
 

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27) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

- The philistines and the israelites assemble to fight!

- Then a giant called Goliath defies the israelites!

- He proposes a fight between him and an Israelites!

- Whoever loses will become the servants of the other side!

- But the Israelites are terrified!

- Then Jesse tells David to bring food to his brothers who are in Saul’s army!

- When David hears Goliath, he asks Saul for the permission to fight Goliath!

- Then David kills Goliath with his sling and a stone which strikes Goliath in his forehead!

- And David cuts off his head!

- And the philistines flee!

- And the Israelites pursue them!

- Thus God’s will is in action and nobody can stop it!

- It is evident that God was with David!

- He was but a boy against a well-armed giant!
 

JLG

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31) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

- Then David goes to Ahimelech the priest and he tells him that Saul gave him a mission!

- So he asks the priest if he can give him some bread!

- So Ahimelech tells him there is only holy bread!

- And he gives them to David!

- And he also gives him Goliath’s sword at David’s request!

- Then David goes to the land of the Philistines acting as if he was insane!

- Thus God keeps protecting David even if Samuel is not there!

- But Saul can’t be compared to Samuel!

- Saul acts against God as Samuel had told the Israelites about the future kings!
 

JLG

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34) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

chap 23

- According to God, David fights against the philistines who went against the city of Keilah!

- He does everything according to God’s will!

- And Saul goes after David!

- But David leaves Keilah!

- David and Jonathan makes a covenant!

- Saul is about to capture David!

- But he has to leave him alone to go after the Philistines!

- Thus David listens to God and God helps him!

- But he will become king!

- And things will change as usual and as Samuel said!
 

JLG

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38) God and Samuel / Samuel and God

chap 27

- Finally David decides to escape to the land of the Philistines because he thinks Saul will kill him!

- And he raids the Philistines and kill everybody to leave no evidence!

- And he tells Achish the Philistine king that he has raided the south of Judah!

- Whatever David does he does it according to God’s will!

- But he is not yet king!
 

JLG

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- Saul and his three sons died in a battle as a consequence of God rejecting Saul: DETERIORATION!

- David was a faithful servant of God before becoming king but he got into trouble as a consequence of really bad deeds: DETERIORATION!

- Solomon received wisdom from God but he started to collect women and ended badly serving false God: DETERIORATION!

- Abraham was a faithful servant of God!

- His son Isaac was a faithful servant of god!

- Jacob was a faithful servant of God!

- Then Dinah was raped and his sons killed men because of the deeds of one man: deterioration!
 

JLG

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- Fourth key: Samuel as a child!

- God spoke directly to Samuel!

- He was taught by Eli!

- He saw the bad examples of his sons!

- He saw their deaths!

- He could see good and bad!

- He could have chosen good or bad!

- And he chose good!

- And it shows the importance to be told when young!

- Remember Jesus when he was 12!

- His parents found him in the temple!

- He said I must be in the house of my Father!

- And he was only 12!

- Is the message clear to you?

- The decisions you take or not will influence your children’s future!

- They may react positively or negatively!

- In the Bible, God told the hebrews to teach his word all the time in any situation!
 

JLG

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4) Then in Chapter 2, we have the bad examples of Eli’s sons who are wicked ones!

- They are supposed to serve God in his temple!

- And they do everything wrong in front of him and Israel!

- Everyone can see their bad behavior!

- Well, it is quite normal among men who are supposed to serve God to behave like that!

- Thus many men think they can do whatever they want because of such examples!

- As if it was an excuse!

- And not only because they behave in a bad way but also what they say is wrong!

- On the contrary, the true disciples of Jesus should show they are different from the rest!

- But history of man shows that they are usually not different and thus not true disciples of Jesus!

- But saying doesn’t mean we really are!

- It is only by the way we behave, with words and deeds!

- And doing nothing is not better!
 

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8) In 1 Samuel 8, we are told that Samuel warned Israel how a human king would treat them!

- And when they would cry out to God, he wouldn’t answer them!

- Because they would have rejected God!

- But they refused to listen to what Samuel told them!

- Israel spent his time rejected God and God rejected them!

- Humanity keeps doing the same!

- But each individual has the opportunity to look for God for himself and encourage others to do the same!

We have free will!

- It’s up to us to make our choice!

- Nobody else will be responsible for that choice!
 

JLG

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- May I ask a question to everybody ?

- I will let people time!

- Then I will answer too!

- There is no trap!


- WHAT IS ALL THE BIBLE ABOUT EXCEPT THE FACT THAT IT IS GOD’S WORD ?

- There may be different answers depending on the elements we have!
 

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  1. Hosea

https://www.gotquestions.org/Hosea-in-the-Bible.html


Hosea was a prophet of God in the Bible. His book is the first of the twelve Minor Prophets in the Old Testament. As a contemporary of the prophet Isaiah, Hosea ministered primarily to the northern kingdom of Israel in the eighth century BC, during the reigns of Kings Uzziah, Jotham, Ahaz, Hezekiah of Judah, and Jeroboam II of Israel (Hosea 1:1). Such a lengthy ministry—60 or 70 years—makes Hosea one of the longest-serving prophets in the Bible.


The central theme of Hosea’s prophetic messages was Israel’s unfaithfulness to God. Following the Lord’s instruction, Hosea married a prostitute to symbolically and poignantly portray Israel’s infidelity to Yahweh. When the Lord first began to speak to Israel through Hosea, God told the prophet, “Go and marry a prostitute, so that some of her children will be conceived in prostitution. This will illustrate how Israel has acted like a prostitute by turning against the LORD and worshiping other gods” (Hosea 1:2, NLT).


During the long reign of King Jeroboam II, Israel’s victory in several military campaigns led the nation into a period of unprecedented prosperity and independence. But as Israel’s fortune soared, the moral fabric of its society collapsed. Corruption and spiritual depravity ran rampant. Israel began to worship pagan deities and attribute the works of God to Baal (Hosea 4:1–13). The people broke their covenant with God and no longer obeyed His laws (Hosea 6:7; 8:1). They stopped trusting in God and sought foreign alliances (Hosea 5:13). In the eyes of the Lord, Israel’s idol worship and unfaithfulness were equivalent to spiritual adultery.


Throughout Hosea’s ministry, the prophet expounded on the adultery metaphor, calling Israel to account for its idolatry and apostasy, laying out God’s charges against the people, and foretelling judgment.


Hosea’s wife, Gomer, practiced unfaithfulness as a lifestyle. When she conceived and bore children, God told Hosea to give them prophetic names symbolizing the Lord’s judgment on Israel: Jezreel foretold a great massacre that would happen in that valley; Lo-Ammi means “not my people,” signaling God’s rejection of Israel; and Lo-Ruhamah means “not favored,” a reversal of God’s earlier description of Israel (Hosea 1:4—2:1). Hosea’s message was clear—sin brings judgment. Hosea warned of painful consequences, invasion, and slavery.


Not satisfied with her relationship with Hosea, Gomer sought other lovers, just as Israel had pursued other gods (Hosea 2:2–5). And as God promised to call Israel back, he told Hosea to redeem Gomer from slavery and welcome her home (Hosea 3:1–5). While God’s punishment was severe, His grace was far more extraordinary. Even while the people worshipped idols and descended into depravity, God never stopped loving them.


Hosea’s bold-faced depiction of Israel as an adulterous wife reveals both the extent of God’s anguish over the betrayal and His love for His people. More than anything, God longs for intimate fellowship with us, even when we repeatedly reject Him. The metaphor also reveals God’s enduring faithfulness toward us. Ultimately, His goal is for us to return to a fulfilling life marked by dedication and devotion.


Yahweh’s love is eternal. His enduring faithfulness is not like human love that can make a solemn vow and then break it. The definitive message of Hosea is the promise of God’s enduring love. Even when we are unfaithful, God continues to love and cherish us and provide a way for our restoration (cf. 2 Timothy 2:13).


It’s no surprise, then, that Hosea means “Yahweh has rescued” or “salvation.” In Hebrew, it is the same name as Joshua (Numbers 13:16; Deuteronomy 32:44). Both Hosea and Joshua are related to the name Yeshua (meaning “to save”), which in English is Jesus.
 

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2) Hosea

  • He spoke against Israel!
  • He married a prostitute to symbolically and poignantly portray Israel’s infidelity to Yahweh!
  • Corruption and spiritual depravity!
  • Worship pagan deities!
  • Attributing the works of God to Baal!
  • Idolatry and apostasy!
  • The children of Hosea:
  • Jezreel foretold a great massacre that would happen in that valley! Lo-Ammi means “not my people,” signaling God’s rejection of Israel!
  • Lo-Ruhamah means “not favored,” a reversal of God’s earlier description of Israel!
  • Hosea warned of painful consequences, invasion, and slavery!
  • Hosea means “Yahweh has rescued” or “salvation.”
  • In Hebrew, it is the same name as Joshua!
  • Both Hosea and Joshua are related to the name Yeshua (meaning “to save”), which in English is Jesus.