I Want To Be Disfellowshipped From The SDA Church

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Apostol2013

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1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death
 

Apostol2013

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2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.
 

Apostol2013

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The law of Christ could not be contained in these ten commandments because when we live by the spirit we are truly living a Holy life only because of Christ not our doing
 

Apostol2013

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As for the requirements of justice, the Church Manual is quite specific:

Settlement of Grievances of Members Against the Church---The same principles that influence resolution of differences among members apply to the settlement of grievances of members against Church organizations and institutions.” p. 61.

I have many grievances against the church.
forgive that you be forgiven
 
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Well here's the problem though, you just said you have to explain what disfellowship means to SDA. Thus you are playing by their rules. Do not play by their rules, for as you yourself have splendidly pointed out they undermine their own holy order.
Again, you don't understand. I believe in the rules I cited. I also believe that I am to do everything I possibly can for the deceived ones who believe that their salvation depends on being a part of "the holy order."
 
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forgive that you be forgiven
To forgive your enemies means wanting them to be saved. To not forgive means wanting them to be lost. So should I be indifferent or loving?
 

Nautilus

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Wow cry me a river...seriously

You're a grown man, put on your big boy pants, get over it, and just find a new church already.
 

Drett

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To forgive your enemies means wanting them to be saved. To not forgive means wanting them to be lost. So should I be indifferent or loving?
Picture watching your enemy jumping into a pit of fire and screaming in pain. Ask yourself if you want that for them or not.
 
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To the Op, dude just leave.
 
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Wow cry me a river...seriously

You're a grown man, put on your big boy pants, get over it, and just find a new church already.
I hear what you're saying. I should not want justice or salvation for those who are so fearfully deceived.
 
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Apostol2013

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2 Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ
 

Apostol2013

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To forgive your enemies means wanting them to be saved. To not forgive means wanting them to be lost. So should I be indifferent or loving?
This is My commandment saith Our LORD love one another as I had loved you and this is the love of Christ just as Christ sacrificed His life for us we must also lay down our lives for the brethren , as lost as they are they are still brethren , live a holy life and pray for your persecutors and know that it is not flesh and blood but principalities and strongholds . Don't hold against them simply seek the truth not looking at what they done but instead bless them wit a clean testimony being the love of Christ in all His righteousness being of true measure to say bless them Father for they know not ought what they do , love is discerning , love is just love is without prejudice it is ever merciful not in grudging hate envy or any sort but be discerning live in the light .
 

Nautilus

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I hear what you're saying. I should not want justice or salvation for those who are so fearfully deceived. ***edited***
Well seeing how they have the same ability as you to realize the truth and leave themselves then yes. Let them make their own decisions. Right now it seems more like youre crying and fantasizing about justice/revenge than doing anything effective.

And nice little dig towards the plight of sexually abused children, you should be ashamed.
 
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Well seeing how they have the same ability as you to realize the truth and leave themselves then yes.
They don’t have the same ability to see the truth. A more accurate comparison is that they are you and I’m a prophet.

Let them make their own decisions. Right now it seems more like youre crying and fantasizing about justice/revenge than doing anything effective.
The truth I share clarifies their choices and options. Your cry-in-the-dark estimate didn’t include my higher purposes of which you know nothing.

And nice little dig towards the plight of sexually abused children, you should be ashamed.
No. You should be ashamed of being the theological equivalent of the celebrated Seventh-day Adventist virtual sodomist apologists. They are the Seventh-day Adventist equivalent of the Catholic apologists that turn aside justice, argue in defense of Catholic pedophile priests in the name of love and forgiveness, hardheartedly attack the spiritually crushed victims that cry for justice, condemn them for not loving the church and accuse them of tarnishing the reputation of the holy order.
 

Apostol2013

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But we combat them with the truth they preach do not we preach the preventative mesures in order that they trully do not holiness is only achieved in the spirit or else the flesh will allways seek loopholes eternity is in the spirit by doing this we fullfill the entire law thanks to christ for fullfilling it for us that we may worship in spirit and in truth not after a carnal commandment but of an everlasting commandment through love
 

john832

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Again, you don't understand. I believe in the rules I cited. I also believe that I am to do everything I possibly can for the deceived ones who believe that their salvation depends on being a part of "the holy order."
IN other words, you are still an SDA? You are allowing yourself to be bound by men.
 

john832

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I hear what you're saying. I should not want justice or salvation for those who are so fearfully deceived. ***edited***
I understand what you are saying, but that is not your choice. You cannot choose for them neither can they choose for you. Pray for them and then do what God says, not what men say.
 
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You cannot choose for them neither can they choose for you. Pray for them and then do what God says, not what men say.
I believe that God has given me the endtime message that is to shake the world and the message to Laodicea that is to shake the SDA church. I'm not making a decision for anyone. I'm just delivering messages.
 
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IN other words, you are still an SDA?
I'm an SDA only in the sense that I was baptized in the SDA church at age 13 and never disfellowshipped. In June 3, 1890, Ellen G. White, the Seven-day Adventist prophetess, wrote: "We have only the glimmerings of the rays of the light that is yet to come to us."God gave me that greater light that EGW predicted would come and I'm announcing that new light together with the special message that is to shake Laodicea.
 

Dan_473

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Hi Shubee! Can you say what the end time message is? I' interested in hearing... blessings to you!