I Will Spew Thee Out of My Mouth

[LaurenTM]

I question where my thoughts come from and my motives, because I believe it's a part of discernment. Not everything that enters our heads or hearts should be acted upon. To me it doesn't matter if it's demonic or just freshly desires, they are both against God and His will for our lives.

Too many people in this forum dont care enough to question why they speak and if what they say will help or hurt those who they are talking to. They care more about being right than speaking in love. The BIBLE calls such wisdom demonic.

Paul says even if you can speak the tongues of angels, without love it is nothing but clashing cymbals and meaningless noise.

Sometime all I see when reading some threads is noise.

This one has its banging too but the pure melody of the Holy Spirit still rings true in the hearts of those humble enough to pray and listen to God's answers instead of their own voices.

(now watch the temper tantrum that will ensue)

yeah I get that...I am in a constant state of questioning...once I got that God is good with questions, I went whole hog...which does not mean He answers them all..

there was one life altering question I asked years ago...regarding someone...family member...and I got this deep groan in my spirit...and a heaviness...and I had the impression I was being told that it was too much for me...I would not receive the answer...and years later, after many things I know the answer...it was way too much for me to grasp at the time I originally asked it...but my impression was correct...

we have to be on guard for what enters our minds and how we dwell on what enters our minds...understanding that changed my life and I am giving myself a refresher course on now..as I need one

I think some are afraid to be wrong and yet, that is a part of learning what is not wrong...I guess pride is in there too

we do not always have to add our 2 cents into a thread or a conversation...agreed

 

[Ariel82]

I was in a woman's bible study and I think the statement was that "not everything that enters your mind might be from your own heart, how do you think the enemy attacks?"

A lady told me she never thought of that before. She felt so guilty for all these bad thoughts entering her head. She said she thought she was evil, but now she realized it was the enemy attacking her. She could rebuke the thoughts and counter it with God's truth. She said it felt like a weight was lifted from her spirit.

 

[88]

I don't know how this happens but it does-----the devil knows our weakness----he had access to our minds---to inject thoughts at times-----you can't stop a bird from flying over your head---but you can prevent him from building a nest on your head... We must renew our minds (Romans 12:1)----if we don't know the Word---it's hard to fight---Jesus used the Word when confronted by Satan...

 

[Grace777x70]

I was in a woman's bible study and I think the statement was that "not everything that enters your mind might be from your own heart, how do you think the enemy attacks?"

A lady told me she never thought of that before. She felt so guilty for all these bad thoughts entering her head. She said she thought she was evil, but now she realized it was the enemy attacking her. She could rebuke the thoughts and counter it with God's truth. She said it felt like a weight was lifted from her spirit.

I agree.

Here is my view as to the origin of these thoughts. Most of these thoughts are accusing and condemning. Sin is the foul manifestation of what is the offspring of our enemy.

We have the law of sin still in our flesh - in our bodies now. This law of sin entered into the human race through Adam eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. All of us that were subsequently born had the blood of Adam transferred to us. ( This is one of the reasons Jesus' blood came from the Father when the Holy Spirit conceived Jesus in Mary's womb )

This law of sin has a voice which comes to our brains from the inside. When Adam sinned - God came to him and Adam said "We hid from you because we were naked and we were afraid." God said.."Who told you that you were naked?" It was the sin that was now living inside of them that "told them they were naked".

It is also called "the mystery of iniquity."

This voice can make it sound like it is us. But the real us is the new creation in Christ which is one of the reasons why we need to have our minds renewed to the truth of who we are in Crist because of what Christ has done on the cross and resurrection and that we too died with Him and rose to newness of live and now we are "alive unto God" .

Vines says this about "sin" ( noun - which is a person, place or thing ) as an entity - a governing principle that is personified. That's why there is a difference between sin - the noun and sinning - the verb which is the action.

This is also why we have been circumcised with the circumcision of Christ which is the cutting away of our flesh from the inner man in Christ and we are sealed by the Holy Spirit from our flesh. We have a new heart in Christ now.

We are still responsible with what we do in these bodies but it is by the Spirit that we put to death the deeds of the body ( where sin is still in us - like a parasite that is in us but the parasite is not the real us).

Anyway ..this is an exciting topic for me but I believe that these thoughts that are contrary to God that arise within our minds is really the voice of sin in our flesh.

There is a lot more to this too but I will stop there.

 

[PeterJens]

How can satan inject thoughts into our heads?
We are temples of the Holy Spirit, purified, holy and clean.

Imagine a machine that is continually looking at things and generating observations, impulses,
hopes, dreams, sad things, disturbing things, fantastic things. All of this below the surface.

That is our sub-conscious, the machine that balances and keeps us running. Now imagine that
occasionally a few of these thoughts creep through, and we see them.

They are part of the whole, but we do not know which, or how they relate.
It is simply wrong to put morality or a judgement on to such things. You do not choose them
or even make them, they happen and exist. Most just ignore them, as part of the wall paper
of life.

If you start to attach guilt to such things, you are repressing and causing harm to something
that is neutral and not a problem and making it into one.

So when such a subject comes up, the simple question is what do you dwell on and where is
your peace? We are called to dwell on good things, things of heaven and spend time in
praise of worship of our King. These things have a radical effect on what our mind shows
and how the processes work.

 

[PeterJens]

"the mystery of iniquity"

Have no clue what this is. You were born with love in your hearts. Your whole being
looked toward mum and dad for security, reassurance and examples. If you ever watch
youngsters this bonding is so complete mum and them are one.

Now as hurts and pain from life build up, you have to balance love with pain. So we all
close off the love and start building defences. Sarcasm, anger, bitterness, revenge, retaliations,
dwelling on others demise, loneliness, abandonment. And out of all of this come sinful
actions that satisfy the rot within.

There is no mystery here, it is obvious.
Ask how many people have a problem with the commandment,
"Honour your father and mother"

It is there because our bad feelings of these two is the root of so much wrong in our
lives. Now some psychologists blame our distortions on our parents, rather than us
not understanding though we love and need our parents to be good loving people, they
are sinful and lost, just like us, and can never meet our needs ideally, only partially.

What helped free me, is God the Father is my Father in whose hands my love can be
freely expressed, and my parents, though flawed, exercised their love to me, and I still
love them no matter what. And I can forgive them, because generation after generation
they inherit this imbalance and isolation, and pass it on by their example, because they
can do no other. This is our inherited isolation from the Lord, and one of the most
miss-understood realities.

 

[LaurenTM]

Sometime all I see when reading some threads is noise.

This one has its banging too but the pure melody of the Holy Spirit still rings true in the hearts of those humble enough to pray and listen to God's answers instead of their own voices.

(now watch the temper tantrum that will ensue)

illustrated

 

[Ariel82]

I don't know how this happens but it does-----the devil knows our weakness----he had access to our minds---to inject thoughts at times-----you can't stop a bird from flying over your head---but you can prevent him from building a nest on your head... We must renew our minds (Romans 12:1)----if we don't know the Word---it's hard to fight---Jesus used the Word when confronted by Satan...

Sometimes people forget or don't know that Satan twisted scripture in an attempt to tempt Jesus too.

 

[Ariel82]

I would respond to grace and Peter, but that would sidetrack your thread 88. So I will refrain out of respect for you.

 

[Grace777x70]

Sometimes people forget or don't know that Satan twisted scripture in an attempt to tempt Jesus too.

That is true. One of the things that satan left out when talking with Jesus was when the Father spoke after Jesus rose from the water. "This is My beloved Son in Him I am well pleased."

Satan left out "beloved and I am well pleased" part. If satan can get us to stop focusing on the love of God and that He is pleased with us because we are in Christ - his temptations might look legitimate. But of course they aren't.

 

[PeterJens]

It is an interesting reality. Does suffering perfect our faith?
In one sense it might, because it strips away those who come along for the ride.

I have sometimes thought, if the church was just the sanctified, and the world
such a lost contrast, it would be easier to choose between the two.

Laodicia is often not the church but a mixture of many things, which makes such
a polarisation argument not useful.

 

[88]

Be Ready whether it's the Rapture or the Tribulation...

 

[Grace777x70]

Be Ready whether it's the Rapture or the Tribulation...

What does one "do" to be ready?

 

[88]

What does one "do" to be ready?

Matthew 25:1-13--------------Bring extra oil for you lamp---& Watch...

 

[PeterJens]

Turmoil is coming, and the real testing of ones heart and loyalty.
It is easy to say you love things, will do things etc until the
time comes to deliver.

What so many forget is it is not fighting to save what you have got
but learning to love and walk in the Kingdom no matter what the
circumstances are around you, because we are going to meet the
Lord anyway, sooner or later, so let us do it in a state of glory rather
than defeat.

 

[Grace777x70]

Matthew 25:1-13--------------Bring extra oil for you lamp---& Watch...

What does that mean in real life?

(I'm not saying you are doing this as I am only asking the question - we can say "Christianize" things but what does it mean in real life? )

To some "bring extra oil" can mean a plethora of different things to people depending on our church teachings. To some it may mean - go to church every the time the doors are open, read 10 chapters a day of the Bible, pray in tongues for hour..etc.

 

[garee]

Unless you all live like Ghandi did you're all Luke warm big talkers.

I don't think Gandhi was a Christian. He denied Christ as his savior. Trusting his own works from what I have heard.

 

[garee]

Its quite the rub. Grace and works. Seems to me he was a man who gave more grace than he received.

He has no saving grace to give . He is not the Christ.

 

[PrynceNY]

What does that mean in real life? (I'm not saying you are doing this as I am only asking the question - we can say "Christianize" things but what does it mean in real life? ) To some "bring extra oil" can mean a plethora of different things to people depending on our church teachings. To some it may mean - go to church every the time the doors are open, read 10 chapters a day of the Bible, pray in tongues for hour..etc.

I take it as mediating on Gods word & being in prayer strengthening your relationship with him. Commonly Gods word is related as spiritual food. I personally think people should let the holy spirit lead them & not put God on a set schedule

 

[Grace777x70]

I take it as mediating on Gods word & being in prayer strengthening your relationship with him. Commonly Gods word is related as spiritual food. I personally think people should let the holy spirit lead them & not put God on a set schedule

Thank you. I have heard that before and it certainly does enhance our walk with the Lord.

What if a new person gets saved and is not doing those things above you mentioned and the event happens where we are to "have extra oil" occurs. Does that new person not qualify for "being ready?" because they were not actively "doing these activities".