If a Person Accepts Jesus is the Savior,

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If a person accepts Jesus is the Savior, Does this person also have to believe Jesus?

  • A person who accepts Jesus is the Savior has no need of believing Jesus' doctrine to be saved.

  • A person who accepts Jesus is the Savior has great need of believing Jesus' doctrine to be saved.

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calibob

calibob

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John 12:24-26 24Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. 26Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
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Lafftur

Lafftur

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calibob said:
John 12:24-26 24Very truly I tell you, unless a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies, it remains only a single seed. But if it dies, it produces many seeds. 25Anyone who loves their life will lose it, while anyone who hates their life in this world will keep it for eternal life. 26Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
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Just as Yeshua/Jesus Christ died to this world, we ALSO must die in order to live.... long story but just as Christ died to this world, we too have to die......

I'm so ready to go..... I'm wondering why I'm still here......:unsure:
 
calibob

calibob

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Lafftur said:
Just as Yeshua/Jesus Christ died to this world, we ALSO must die in order to live.... long story but just as Christ died to this world, we too have to die......

I'm so ready to go..... I'm wondering why I'm still here......:unsure:
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Because you share the good news to a sad world!
 
Lafftur

Lafftur

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calibob said:
Because you share the good news to a sad world!
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I just can't learn to keep my mouth shut! lol! :giggle: I keep sharing about God's love and Yeshua/Jesus Christ and I seem to still be here........lol! :giggle:

I'm really sooooooooo ready to go to the other side.....:rolleyes:
 
calibob

calibob

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Lafftur said:
I just can't learn to keep my mouth shut! lol! :giggle: I keep sharing about God's love and Yeshua/Jesus Christ and I seem to still be here........lol! :giggle:

I'm really sooooooooo ready to go to the other side.....:rolleyes:
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I understand, but please stick around for us a lil' longer.. We luv ya.
 
Lafftur

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calibob said:
I understand, but please stick around for us a lil' longer.. We luv ya.
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calibob - you are my precious brother, and I will hang around for family! But, when HE says, "Come on!" I'm OUTTTA here!!! lol!:giggle::love:(y) I'll see ya on the other side! :love:
 
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garee

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calibob said:
I'm sorry I thought you were quoting Matthew.

Matthew 17:20 New International Version (NIV)

20 He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.”

It's not the size of the mustard see. They are tiny but the amount of faith required to let go of life as we know it and become born again completely helpless. That's the measure of faith required. We most surrender to Gods will and give up our own will in the process. We are the vessels we are not the potter. Have you ever seen a mustard seed? It's volume of faith is not the measure. The percentage of faith is.
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I would add. Whose faith as the person thereof ? When the disciples were said to have little faith it was in respect to the faith of Christ that lived in them .Those who know not the power of gospel are reckoned as having no faith .Not little none.

The faith that did work in them was not of their own selves. It will always be little compared to the source. He must increase as we decrease.

I think it is one of the reasons he spoke in parables to teach us of the unseen things of faith .Believing, is seeing the eternal.

There is a interesting discourse in Luke 9 . Where Jesus purposely hid the gospel understanding from the apostles. Again to teach them how to walk by faith as hearing God and not men. The Apostles who were following Jesus as the greatest in unbelief when not understanding. . . . immediately as if Jesus disappeared. They played who is the greatest alpha dog ,After the 3rd time he rebuked them and said; you know not the manner of spirit you are of. Which was the temporal corrupted spirit of natural unconverted man, no faith. Unlike the eternal Spirit of faith

By the faith of Christ he works to create mountains and moves men to believe.

But they understood not this saying, and it was hid from them, that they perceived it not: and they feared to ask him of that saying.
Then there arose a reasoning among them, which of them should be greatest.Luke9: 44-45
 
Magenta

Magenta

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calibob said:
We still need the faith of a mustard seed to move mountains.
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I agree :) It is apparent that there are those who reject the Scriptural principle that the truth is understood by building line upon line and harmonizing precept with precept, not taking one line and pretending some superior status and understanding while refusing to harmonize it with corresponding Scriptures so they can shamelessly boast about how they command/direct the will of God :rolleyes:
 
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