If homosexuality is an abomination to God, why do some Christians support it?

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EarsToHear

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Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.


Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


2 Timothy 3:1-7
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
 
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thepsalmist

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I can proclaim to the whole world that I'm a vegan.
I can go to vegan rallies, wear vegan t-shirts, hang out with vegans and chat about vegan things.
I can even believe I'm a vegan!

... then I can leave my vegan fellowship, go home, slaughter a cow in my basement and eat it raw.

My point being that not all people who claim they are Christians are truly Christians or hold Christian beliefs.
 

EarsToHear

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I can proclaim to the whole world that I'm a vegan.
I can go to vegan rallies, wear vegan t-shirts, hang out with vegans and chat about vegan things.
I can even believe I'm a vegan!

... then I can leave my vegan fellowship, go home, slaughter a cow in my basement and eat it raw.

My point being that not all people who claim they are Christians are truly Christians or hold Christian beliefs.
Good point!

For every positive there is a negative. Many atheists help fulfill the negative side of God’s Word.
 
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people speak of the "gay agenda". To me it seems that some Christians have an agenda to "defeat" the homosexuals, to make them seem worse than all other sinners.

God says that whoever says to his brother "you fool" is condemned .... how many of you can say you never ever said that or something similar to a "brother"?
 

NotmebutHim

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Because they have a faulty assumption that Christ's commandment to love one another also means to accept and give tacit approval to the homosexual lifestyle.

The reason Christ associated with sinners is because He wanted to love them OUT of their sins, not love them INTO them. We are often accused of "being like the Pharisees", "judging", "Bible-thumping", "intolerant", "unloving", etc., when we attempt to call out sinful lifestyles and behaviors, and we are told that Jesus mingled with people who needed Him the most, as opposed to those who thought they had it all figured out. That is true, but we have to remember that Christ knows the hearts of everyone, both those who realize they need Him, as well as those who believe that they don't. He knows what each person's needs are, and He meets them accordingly.

Satan warps our view of God's love. And I believe that God's hatred of sin (all sin) is an expression of His perfect love.
 

Dude653

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people speak of the "gay agenda". To me it seems that some Christians have an agenda to "defeat" the homosexuals, to make them seem worse than all other sinners.

God says that whoever says to his brother "you fool" is condemned .... how many of you can say you never ever said that or something similar to a "brother"?
I am inclined to agree. People act like homosexuality is the only sin the Bible mentions. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong however I don not force my beliefs on anyone as that is between them and God.
 

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Because they have a faulty assumption that Christ's commandment to love one another also means to accept and give tacit approval to the homosexual lifestyle.

The reason Christ associated with sinners is because He wanted to love them OUT of their sins, not love them INTO them. We are often accused of "being like the Pharisees", "judging", "Bible-thumping", "intolerant", "unloving", etc., when we attempt to call out sinful lifestyles and behaviors, and we are told that Jesus mingled with people who needed Him the most, as opposed to those who thought they had it all figured out. That is true, but we have to remember that Christ knows the hearts of everyone, both those who realize they need Him, as well as those who believe that they don't. He knows what each person's needs are, and He meets them accordingly.

Satan warps our view of God's love. And I believe that God's hatred of sin (all sin) is an expression of His perfect love.
I have personally not encountered many Christians who believe that homosexuality, or any other sin, is ok and doesn't need to be acknowledged as sin and stopped. I have encountered many Christians, myself included at one time, that have not acted out of love toward homosexuals and their need for Jesus Christ, and instead try and get them to acknowledge that what they are doing is sinful and needs to be stopped BEFORE accepting Christ and being filled with the Holy Spirit. If they, or we for that matter, couldn't stop our sinning before accepting Jesus, of what value is telling them that what they are specifically doing is sin and needs to be stopped? why even talk about a specific sin at all?

Instead, I now virtually always just preach Christ crucified and risen,and what He has done in my life, pray they will accept the Gospel, and let the Holy Spirit work in them to show them what they are doing is sinful and needs to be stopped. If someone ASKS me about a specific sin I will tell them what God's word says about it.

May God's love shine through us all so that others will want what we have. Peace, Grace and Love. In Jesus name.
 
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They are RINOS, redeemed in name only. TV wolves, many coming out of the closet as or supporting the perversion.

Have I ever brought up the word APOSTASY on this site? Let me see now.....
 

oyster67

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Because they have a faulty assumption that Christ's commandment to love one another also means to accept and give tacit approval to the homosexual lifestyle.

The reason Christ associated with sinners is because He wanted to love them OUT of their sins, not love them INTO them. We are often accused of "being like the Pharisees", "judging", "Bible-thumping", "intolerant", "unloving", etc., when we attempt to call out sinful lifestyles and behaviors, and we are told that Jesus mingled with people who needed Him the most, as opposed to those who thought they had it all figured out. That is true, but we have to remember that Christ knows the hearts of everyone, both those who realize they need Him, as well as those who believe that they don't. He knows what each person's needs are, and He meets them accordingly.

Satan warps our view of God's love. And I believe that God's hatred of sin (all sin) is an expression of His perfect love.
Amen. Our Lord is willing that none should perish. If we truly love them, then we will warn them. Those that do the tolerance dance do not seem to have much concern about eternal consequences. If we meet these people 1,000 years from now, they will say either of two things:

1.) Thank you for warning me.

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2.) Why didn't you warn me?
 

BenFTW

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In case any homosexual individual is reading this thread: God loves you. :)

In case any person thinks this is an endorsement of homosexuality: No, but keep in mind Jesus didn't come to condemn the world but save it. He loves homosexuals just as much as He loves you. He doesn't want them, or you, to go to Hell and that is why He sent His Son to die on the cross. To pay for all of their sins, and yours so that they, and you, could be reconciled to God. Isn't that good news? Isn't that the Gospel? :D
 

Magenta

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I am inclined to agree. People act like homosexuality is the only sin the Bible mentions. I personally believe that homosexuality is wrong however I don not force my beliefs on anyone as that is between them and God.
Adultery may be mentioned more often than homosexuality in the Bible. I have not counted...
but yes, the point is, people overlook their own transgressions.
 

Magenta

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Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. He spoke of eunuchs though, and basically praised
them for their celibate lifestyle if it was chosen. He acknowledged that it was not easy.
 

Budman

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For the same reason some Christians support abortion:

They're biblically ignorant.
 

Yet

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Romans 1:26-27
 

posthuman

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who has ever heard of a Christian "supporting" homosexuality?
if you have, i'm pretty sure that's a "false believer" or "pseudo-christian" you have in mind. or RINO's -- i like that one. thanks, Yet.

are we considering anyone who doesn't actively persecute homosexuals to be "supporting" them?




 

Budman

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Jesus never mentioned homosexuality. He spoke of eunuchs though, and basically praised
them for their celibate lifestyle if it was chosen. He acknowledged that it was not easy.

With all due respect Magenta - Jesus did mention homosexuality. The Holy Spirit inspired the Scriptures. The Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is also God. Thus, Scripture is from Jesus as well as from the Father.

And so, Jesus condemned homosexuality in the Bible.
 

Magenta

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Also, what I think many Christians support is not necessarily homosexuality per se, but the right of homosexuals to live free from the threat of bodily harm at the hands of those who disagree with their lifestyle for whatever reason. Too many have died violent deaths, or taken their own lives, because of the hatred leveled at them, which is then internalized. It is sad.
 

Magenta

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With all due respect Magenta - Jesus did mention homosexuality. The Holy Spirit inspired the Scriptures. The Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is also God. Thus, Scripture is from Jesus as well as from the Father.

And so, Jesus condemned homosexuality in the Bible.
Jesus Christ, the eternal second person of the Godhead, also known as the Son of God, Who manifested as a human being and walked this world for over thirty years, Whose deeds and acts were documented in the gospel accounts, is not recorded as having said one word about homosexuality.
 

posthuman

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Also, what I think many Christians support is not necessarily homosexuality per se, but the right of homosexuals to live free from the threat of bodily harm at the hands of those who disagree with their lifestyle for whatever reason. Too many have died violent deaths, or taken their own lives, because of the hatred leveled at them, which is then internalized. It is sad.
i support this. :)

one doesn't have to condone their neighbors every behavior in order to love them, seek to live peaceably with them, and work & hope for their general well-being.
 

Budman

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Jesus Christ, the eternal second person of the Godhead, also known as the Son of God, Who manifested as a human being and walked this world for over thirty years, Whose deeds and acts were documented in the gospel accounts, is not recorded as having said one word about homosexuality.
Once again, as part of the Trinitarian Godhead, He did indeed speak out against homosexuality in the scriptures.

Do you actually believe Jesus does not agree with what is stated about homosexuality in the Bible?
 
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