If homosexuality is an abomination to God, why do some Christians support it?

[Budman]

I choose the side of the one who shows the most fruits of the spirit.

One of the fruits of the Spirit is truth.

 

[BenFTW]

Sorry man, I don't have time for this drama.
I read through the thread from the beginning.
Her comments made sense to me -- especially within the context of everything else that was said.

People wanna pick fights and then pick sides.
I choose the side of the one who shows the most fruits of the spirit.

Indeed, and I've extended such to Magenta in patiently trying to resolve her "issues" with me, but she doesn't want that apparently. I've extended grace, and asked her to PM me so we can resolve this. Still nothing in my inbox. Any dissension or strife is a result of her lack of trying to reconcile. I don't know what else to do, so I've asked her to put me on ignore. It is the best solution. -shrugs-

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

One of the fruits of the Spirit is truth.

Kindness and patience is what ChristianChat.com users lack.

I didn't call Jesus the Father, and the Holy Spirit is indeed God.

Really?

The Holy Spirit inspired the Scriptures. The Holy Spirit is God. Jesus is also God. Thus, Scripture is from Jesus as well as from the Father. And so, Jesus condemned homosexuality in the Bible.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Indeed, and I've extended such to Magenta in patiently trying to resolve her "issues" with me, but she doesn't want that apparently. I've extended grace, and asked her to PM me so we can resolve this. Still nothing in my inbox. Any dissension or strife is a result of her lack of trying to reconcile. I don't know what else to do, so I've asked her to put me on ignore. It is the best solution. -shrugs-

​Put each other on ignore and get done with it already!!

 

[Magenta]

I don't know what you're talking about. Magenta has been on the war path this last week and is exceptionally defensive to the degree of defamation, insinuating and flat out saying I am attacking her. I am not. I have even requested she private message me what assumptions I have made in order for me to correct them. She didn't. She is now being an instigator, any comment and she goes off. She needs to put me on ignore if she can't handle regular, common, conversation or take a break from CC. It isn't healthy and causes strife.

I have nothing against you, but if you wish to add me to ignore you are free to do so.

See? You tell me to PM you but you do not PM me to air your grievances. Just more of your holier than thou hypocrisy. I point out your assumptions when you make them but you refuse to acknowledge them. What good would privately pointing them out be? You are no more likely to admit you are wrong that way than you are this way.

 

[BenFTW]

​Put each other on ignore and get done with it already!!

I would rather reconcile than ignore though blue_ladybug. : / VVe as Christians are to forgive, and that fruit is missing here.

 

[Angela53510]

Galatians 6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap.


Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.


Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.


Romans 1:24-27
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.


1 Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


2 Timothy 3:1-7
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Thanks for this! Bible verses are true and always appreciated.

 

[PeacefulWarrior]

Indeed, and I've extended such to Magenta in patiently trying to resolve her "issues" with me, but she doesn't want that apparently. I've extended grace, and asked her to PM me so we can resolve this. Still nothing in my inbox. Any dissension or strife is a result of her lack of trying to reconcile. I don't know what else to do, so I've asked her to put me on ignore. It is the best solution. -shrugs-

Well man, when you publically blast someone (even if it seems light, to you) and then ask them to deal with it privately -- it's kinda like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound!

...my point might be moot, but then again -- maybe it's supposed to be moot.

 

[BenFTW]

See? You tell me to PM you but you do not PM me to air your grievances. Just more of your holier than thou hypocrisy. I point out your assumptions when you make them but you refuse to acknowledge them. What good would privately pointing them out be? You are no more likely to admit you are wrong that way than you are this way.

Again, if I have made any assumptions private message them to me so I can correct them. If I have made any assumptions that have offended you, I am sorry. I really don't understand the animosity Magenta.

 

[Budman]

Scripture is from Jesus as well as from the Father.

Two different persons. See?

And once again, the Holy Spirit, the third person of the Trinity, is also God.

 

[Magenta]

Again, if I have made any assumptions private message them to me so I can correct them. If I have made any assumptions that have offended you, I am sorry. I really don't understand the animosity Magenta.

So you can pretend that I only say something to argue and you are so blind
you cannot see that as an assumption or attacking me, my responses to
you are completely unfounded & unprovoked in your mind? Wake up, Ben!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I agree that the Trinity is always in agreement (Magenta does as well). This was never the issue at hand, until you made it so, which is why I called it silly.

I disagreed with your simplification of Christ being God; 'Men, inspired by Holy Spirit, wrote against homosexuality, therefore Jesus condemns homosexuality'

Yet Jesus, in giving the law condemned homosexuality. So the whole argument is mute.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Please stop assuming you know why I say the things I do and also stop talking down to me you hypocrite.

What he said was true.. And here you are calling him a name?

Wow.. just wow.

Are you going answer me? Why did you say it to begin with, That is what started this discussion.

 

[BenFTW]

So you can pretend that I only say something to argue and you are so blind
you cannot see that as an assumption or attacking me, my responses to
you are completely unprovoked in your mind? Wake up, Ben!

VVhen will it end Magenta? I've said sorry. Do you accept my apology? If your point wasn't to just make a point with budman, fine then. Sorry. All is well, it is all rather silly. I don't like that any conversation on any given topic you accuse me of assumptions. Instead of telling me I am making assumptions, simply respond to my response and inform me that I have misunderstood you. I am open to that, as is anyone trying to get to the truth of the matter.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It may sound simplistic to you, but it doesn't make it any less true. Homosexuality is condemned in the Scriptures. God the Holy Spirit, inspired the Bible. Thus, the Father, and the Son, are in agreement with what the Scriptures state regarding homosexuality.

It Goes deeper. The great "I AM" The God of Israel. The one who claimed in Isaiah wwa sent by the father and his spirit. Condemned Homosexuality. And imposed a penalty on it (Death I think it was was it not? I could be mistaken)

So if Jesus the "I Am" Spoke it, I am sure Jesus the incarnate man agreed.

 

[Magenta]

Why did you say it to begin with, That is what started this discussion.

Because it is true. People are so averse to the truth, though.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I'm about to add you, myself, BenFTW.
This isn't the BenFTW, I knew--what's gotten into you?

Probably the same thing that has goten into a lot of us. Silly conversations, Then hen you question what is said, you get attacked.

 

[Magenta]

VVhen will it end Magenta? I've said sorry. Do you accept my apology? If your point wasn't to just make a point with budman, fine then. Sorry. All is well, it is all rather silly. I don't like that any conversation on any given topic you accuse me of assumptions. Instead of telling me I am making assumptions, simply respond to my response and inform me that I have misunderstood you. I am open to that, as is anyone trying to get to the truth of the matter.

It will end when you stop making false pronouncements over what and why I post. I don't appreciate it, and that should be easy enough for you to understand. I have asked this of you many times but you just keep doing it and then further accuse me of playing the victim when I point it out to you and then further pretend that my pointing it out to you privately is going to help. Just stop.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Right.
The part that was simplistic, Budman -- Is the part where you tried saying that Scripture = Inspired Man = Holy Spirit = Jesus = God.
The image, I shared, shows the problem with calling Jesus "Father" or calling the H.S. "God".

Ah so the HS is not God.

Yet the symbol you posted said he was.

See why people get so frustrated?

PS, Budman said they were equal. Not the same SO your whole point is mute.. and like others, just seem to want to argue.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Kindness and patience is what ChristianChat.com users lack.



Really?

Budman said the HS was God, and Jesus was God..

Is that not true?

You need to stop. Your not helping yourself.