IF Money is the ROOT of EVIL, Then Why Use It Seeing What It Does To People?

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homwardbound

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The verse written her is of Romans 14, known as the food chapter but really goes much deeper
Romans 14:14[ The Law of Love ] I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean

You see since all things are clean of itself, makes makes anything unclean money here in this case is what one does with it, hat simple
Acts 10:14But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”
Acts 10:15And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common
Acts 11:9But the voice answered me again from heaven, ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’

The problem is all are not on the same page here on this earth that is passing away
 

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There's no such thing embedded in our DNA. Even kids understand that if they have enough of something to share.
Kids are taught to not be selfish, because they are by nature selfish, spare the rod spoil the child. This world is a mess and is perishing period it is predicted this way, and time is showing it to be.
And our kingdom is not of this world, mine is Heaven where all my treasures are safe and secure, I applaud your effort,but in reality it is not going to come to be accordingly to predictions in the word at Revelations.
 

zone

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Not just this nation. We can save the world! I just don't understand people. We no longer have to live this way. PLEASE Homwardbound, you are one of the few who seems to at least have any sense to what I'm saying.

Go to youtube and search for 'The Venus Project.' I know we can beat money. Those that rule knows this too.
that's the plan???? after all this?

the Venus Project?

:rolleyes:

oh count me in for another UBER-CIA OP (not).

"those that rule" are the ones who gave ya the stupid Venus Project, man....come on.

it doesn't exist, it never will - it's accomplishing what it was created to do - GET YA TO BELIEVE IN UNSUSTAINABILITY and be a communist (where you end up with NADA).

you think you'd be living in that awesome construction?

don't you know UTOPIAN propaganda when you see it? (which is always DYStopian).

"The Zeitgeist Movement is a global sustainability activist group working to bring the world together for the common goal of species sustainability before it is too late. It is a social movement"

justamazed, CULT recruiting is not popular, and i think it is against the rules.
 
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zone

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Not just this nation. We can save the world! I just don't understand people. We no longer have to live this way. PLEASE Homwardbound, you are one of the few who seems to at least have any sense to what I'm saying.

Go to youtube and search for 'The Venus Project.' I know we can beat money. Those that rule knows this too.
okay...you're either a cult recruiter or just really silly.

that whole "movement" is brought to you by these crackpots:

Too Many People, Too Much Consumption by Paul R. Ehrlich and Anne H. Ehrlich: Yale Environment 360 < click

they are "experts" in population reduction....eugenics.

they want all of us dead.

get it? sustainability for them and their future generations.

their "science" is psuedo-science, they are eugenicists, and their tool is fear mongering and BOGUS "science"

example: oil and gas are not fossil fuels - they are renewable, continuously renewing natural substances that the world is awash in.

the planet is perfectly capable of providing enough food for everyone - the problem is psychopaths who buy and sell other peoples food on a global casino NYSE table.

peak oil is a fraud; global warming is a bogus INGSOC psyop:rolleyes:


anyways.....seriously - if you truly believe the Venus Project eugenics fake utopian thing is ever gonna happen i feel sorry for you. i wonder though, if you may be a little more aware than that:rolleyes:.

you guys have got to come up with something more convincing.
and maybe those "experts" like Holdren and the lot need to get comfy in a rubber room for awhile.
dontcha know you're not part of the plan, man?

dey call "activists" who do this stuff "useful idiots"
that's embarassing isn't it?
to be preaching your own demise?

cough.
 
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Kids are taught to not be selfish, because they are by nature selfish, spare the rod spoil the child. This world is a mess and is perishing period it is predicted this way, and time is showing it to be.
And our kingdom is not of this world, mine is Heaven where all my treasures are safe and secure, I applaud your effort,but in reality it is not going to come to be accordingly to predictions in the word at Revelations.
Not true. Kids are born knowing neither good nor evil.
 
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that's the plan???? after all this?

the Venus Project?

:rolleyes:

oh count me in for another UBER-CIA OP (not).

"those that rule" are the ones who gave ya the stupid Venus Project, man....come on.

it doesn't exist, it never will - it's accomplishing what it was created to do - GET YA TO BELIEVE IN UNSUSTAINABILITY and be a communist (where you end up with NADA).

you think you'd be living in that awesome construction?

don't you know UTOPIAN propaganda when you see it? (which is always DYStopian).

"The Zeitgeist Movement is a global sustainability activist group working to bring the world together for the common goal of species sustainability before it is too late. It is a social movement"

justamazed, CULT recruiting is not popular, and i think it is against the rules.


The only cult I see here is you. You represent the majority who has been led astray. Remember your bible said that most would. If you call me wanting to save the world 'CULT recruiting' then so be it. It only shows the evil in your heart. I do not know of any of that you mentioned. I do know that if we don't change, we'll kill each other.
 

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The only cult I see here is you. You represent the majority who has been led astray. Remember your bible said that most would. If you call me wanting to save the world 'CULT recruiting' then so be it. It only shows the evil in your heart. I do not know of any of that you mentioned. I do know that if we don't change, we'll kill each other.
yer pushin' the Venus project and haven't researched it?

come on now....:rolleyes:

don't you know how the story ends?

Jesus won...now we preach the Gospel and these former things will not be remembered.
have you started yet?
 
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The verse written her is of Romans 14, known as the food chapter but really goes much deeper
Romans 14:14[ The Law of Love ] I know and am convinced by the Lord Jesus that there is nothing unclean of itself; but to him who considers anything to be unclean, to him it is unclean

You see since all things are clean of itself, makes makes anything unclean money here in this case is what one does with it, hat simple
Acts 10:14But Peter said, “Not so, Lord! For I have never eaten anything common or unclean.”
Acts 10:15And a voice spoke to him again the second time, “What God has cleansed you must not call common
Acts 11:9But the voice answered me again from heaven, ‘What God has cleansed you must not call common.’

The problem is all are not on the same page here on this earth that is passing away
I understand what you are saying. I never said that money was evil, but that by doing away with it, we will get rid of all evil. Now "WHAT GOD HAS CLEANSED" is the people we are starving and left to the elements because of money dictating to us that these people are "common" and therefore unimportant.

Now if I can see where you are coming from, surely you can see my point of view. It's not like we have to build these people housing, it's already made and empty! 18 million in the U.S. ALONE. If you are looking for a sign from God sir, THIS IS IT! Clearly we see these things, but the world would rather discuss WHETHER THE SAMSUNG GALAXY IS BETTER THAN THE I-PHONE 5!???

God has given us the visible means to do better by all men, and we refuse to listen. There is enough for all to live free off of the land. The only problem man has to conquer in this is a means to get these things to the people, and SURELY technology can do these things for us!

Everything is against you all waking up and figuring this out. Why do you think so many movies come out putting "us against the machines" for? Entertainment? NO! From movies to books people like Zone are conditioned to believe and work against the truth.

We use gas and oil still simply because it is easily THE MOST PROFITABLE energy source. Technology has FAR SURPASSED THE NEED TO USE THESE.

Each submarine for the army has the capacity to blow the world up many times over. Money wise, the price of one with it's contents could virtually wipe out poverty. And we (those who are poor and not blessed in many eyes here on CC, excuse me) struggle to pay to keep roofs over our children's heads. But still there are 18 million homes to choose from if I'm kicked out of this one right? Just work harder next time!?

Nothing will change unless we change it. I believe this/
 
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The LOVE of money is the root of all evil, not money. Money is what God uses to reward us, it's human response oriented, like Pavlov's dog, but different :D

We are NOT to love it, we are to use it, as He intended, which is JUST like our talents, you know, the parable of the talents, whatever God's gifted you with, DON'T go hiding it in the dirt, USE it !!!

This is what I feel God wants us to understand of money , and, anything else, too, that becomes our 'love' instead of our love being for Him, which is Love, anyway, so, why are we even talking about money love ? IF you are hungry for money for the RIGHT reasons, then, God is going to give you MORE. Pure and simple. 'The parable of the talents' tells the truth, justamazing :)
 
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yer pushin' the Venus project and haven't researched it?

come on now....:rolleyes:

don't you know how the story ends?

Jesus won...now we preach the Gospel and these former things will not be remembered.
have you started yet?
Yes I have! I have seen it. By my faith I have seen the city... It is a place in which you are no longer against the love I display here. Where we will hug each other, God having wiped all tears away! I see us all victorious, and that it why I too must present you all a chaste virgin.

The "Venus Project" is a name that you are giving power to. He simply named it that because of the area of Florida he resided in. I do not promote the "venus project", I support a better way of life. If I'd thought like you, we'd clash on the name of "Jesus" alone and you would LOSE that battle too. But this is not about those childish things, because I am not a child. I am a man and put those type of silly arguments behind me. It is a waste of my time arguing about the things we argue about while thousands more die every day.

Do we not have the power to change these things if Christ lives within us having been raised to sit forever more in God's favor? If so my lovely sister in Christ, STAND WITH ME.

We do not need to live like this any longer! And I speak to you because you know my language. And if you are poor then you know where I come from. And if you are hurt, then you know how I feel. And if you are scared then you should know that I am too. The body is surely weak, BUT I SAY TODAY, LET THE SPIRIT BE WILLING.


I love his idea as the city and lifestyle he sees lines up exactly with the bible . The city is sustained by the life of the planet, and truly then is the saying, "the leaves are for the healing of the nations" has come to past.
 

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Yes I have! I have seen it. By my faith I have seen the city... It is a place in which you are no longer against the love I display here. Where we will hug each other, God having wiped all tears away! I see us all victorious, and that it why I too must present you all a chaste virgin.

The "Venus Project" is a name that you are giving power to. He simply named it that because of the area of Florida he resided in. I do not promote the "venus project", I support a better way of life. If I'd thought like you, we'd clash on the name of "Jesus" alone and you would LOSE that battle too. But this is not about those childish things, because I am not a child. I am a man and put those type of silly arguments behind me. It is a waste of my time arguing about the things we argue about while thousands more die every day.

Do we not have the power to change these things if Christ lives within us having been raised to sit forever more in God's favor? If so my lovely sister in Christ, STAND WITH ME.

We do not need to live like this any longer! And I speak to you because you know my language. And if you are poor then you know where I come from. And if you are hurt, then you know how I feel. And if you are scared then you should know that I am too. The body is surely weak, BUT I SAY TODAY, LET THE SPIRIT BE WILLING.


I love his idea as the city and lifestyle he sees lines up exactly with the bible . The city is sustained by the life of the planet, and truly then is the saying, "the leaves are for the healing of the nations" has come to past.
k.....take it easy.
try to relax.
the venus project is not God's heaven, okay?
it's a CIA psyop.

a cult....recruiting people who will believe in unsustainability and the altruism of fallen sinful man.
ain't gonna happen.
the same guys robbing you now plan to rob you later.
the venus thing is a pipe dream.
but you can do what you want.

Hail Bop
 
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The LOVE of money is the root of all evil, not money. Money is what God uses to reward us, it's human response oriented, like Pavlov's dog, but different :D

We are NOT to love it, we are to use it, as He intended, which is JUST like our talents, you know, the parable of the talents, whatever God's gifted you with, DON'T go hiding it in the dirt, USE it !!!

This is what I feel God wants us to understand of money , and, anything else, too, that becomes our 'love' instead of our love being for Him, which is Love, anyway, so, why are we even talking about money love ? IF you are hungry for money for the RIGHT reasons, then, God is going to give you MORE. Pure and simple. 'The parable of the talents' tells the truth, justamazing :)

Ok. Can money bring peace on earth? If No, then can no form of money bring peace on earth? YES!

You cannot blame love. It's only an emotion right? So do you think it is justified when one senate candidate can spend 100 million dollars in three years in losing attempts simply to earn a spot earning on paper $150,000 a year for 2 years as well?

Now I say that we can live a peaceful sustainable life for all people everywhere, for free. If you believe that this cannot be done, simply state why and I will gladly be happy to answer.

If you believe that this can be achieved through money, then simply state how this can be achieved and I will look into it if there is even such a thing to begin with.
 

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Now I say that we can live a peaceful sustainable life for all people everywhere, for free.
because the Rothschilds; Rockefellers; Warburgs; Astors; and others aren't interested in living in peace and harmony with you.
and they own all the weapons.
and they want all the resources.

okay?
 
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k.....take it easy.
try to relax.
the venus project is not God's heaven, okay?
it's a CIA psyop.

a cult....recruiting people who will believe in unsustainability and the altruism of fallen sinful man.
ain't gonna happen.
the same guys robbing you now plan to rob you later.
the venus thing is a pipe dream.
but you can do what you want.

Hail Bop
Instead of slinging accusations as if you've been watching him since the 70's, actually show proof of what I have high lighted. What I liked about the man is on the video I posted a while back.

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Woe to the scribes! I will lay my life down for the brethren. And if what is a good thing, called evil then so be it. Kill me as an animal.
 

zone

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Instead of slinging accusations as if you've been watching him since the 70's, actually show proof of what I have high lighted. What I liked about the man is on the video I posted a while back.

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So it is by definition an ANIMAL who acts UNSELFISH, even AT ITS OWN EXPENSE!


Woe to the scribes! I will lay my life down for the brethren. And if what is a good thing, called evil then so be it. Kill me as an animal.
see, you don't understand that no one but Jesus acted purely out of altruism (a poor word to use for Him).
your movement will last about a month before the power struggles begin.
man is fallen.

the Amish have made it, a few others. if you're planning to mix unsaved with saved...FORGET IT!
but go for it.
 
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because the Rothschilds; Rockefellers; Warburgs; Astors; and others aren't interested in living in peace and harmony with you.
and they own all the weapons.
and they want all the resources.

okay?
I wish I could have said what I REALLY wanted to say when you said this from your mouth. This means nothing if we win the hearts of the people again the only thing that gives those things you mentioned power is the people. This country is the LAST place I know that has the freedom to do such and the government MUST VISIBLY COMPLY to its demands! ONCE they strip that away, we will be defenseless!
I never said it will be easy. It will be as He said it will be at first. But we have what our ancestors did not have. The internet and instant access to the world! A few can change the world, and I believe this.
 
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see, you don't understand that no one but Jesus acted purely out of altruism (a poor word to use for Him).
your movement will last about a month before the power struggles begin.
man is fallen.

the Amish have made it, a few others. if you're planning to mix unsaved with saved...FORGET IT!
but go for it.
Again there is no such thing. The only thing that exist is whether you like me or I the same to you. All men die as evident to mean that you, being saved die as though you are not saved. Because you both are one and the same. If you do not want to live next to certain people, then that is your right. But I will say that I believe that will be the least of what is on your mind in a money free society. You'd be too busy going places and learning new things to care about if the man next to you is "unsaved" who is taking part in the same.
 
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Again there is no such thing. The only thing that exist is whether you like me or I the same to you. All men die as evident to mean that you, being saved die as though you are not saved. Because you both are one and the same. If you do not want to live next to certain people, then that is your right. But I will say that I believe that will be the least of what is on your mind in a money free society. You'd be too busy going places and learning new things to care about if the man next to you is "unsaved" who is taking part in the same.

UMMM I think that is exactly what we are suppose to be concerned about is if someone is SAVED OR NOT. It's not about the trinkets in the here and now.
 

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I wish I could have said what I REALLY wanted to say when you said this from your mouth. This means nothing if we win the hearts of the people again the only thing that gives those things you mentioned power is the people. This country is the LAST place I know that has the freedom to do such and the government MUST VISIBLY COMPLY to its demands! ONCE they strip that away, we will be defenseless!
I never said it will be easy. It will be as He said it will be at first. But we have what our ancestors did not have. The internet and instant access to the world! A few can change the world, and I believe this.
[video=youtube;rs9EOl6lSt4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rs9EOl6lSt4[/video]
 

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here is a shorter list,,,god made gold and what Adam called it,,it was so. god made tree's and Adam named them,and it was so. the same with all that god made the same he let Adam call it by name and it was so.

now men came after by birth and took certain things god made and Adam named and recreated them to their own will's desire. man took the gold and pounded it into images,and worshiped them. they melted them and fashioned them to their fancy. they weighed them and wrote their alphabets on them to form their names. they drew their pictures on them,the same they took the trees and shaved them and pounded them into paper and put their marks on them.

now god made the gold,and the tree,,,,,,"but man made the money",,,,the will of god is the tree and the gold. but the will of man is not the will of god,it is his own. now we seek to justify our will before god,that is "there must be a significant reason for us to measure the things we would freely share with our brothers",,,,that is if we saw them as a member of our family.

a man,sets his son at his table and feeds him for 14 cents,,,a mother will change her babies diaper for 21 cents.,,,,a man will raise his own children for a dollar. at night the mother and the father will tuck in the babies and tell them "goodnight,sweet dreams,i love you",,,,for a quarter.

the neighbors beside them they hate,they are not their brothers, they are not part of their household. being so their is no love involved,so all is fair game. the shovel,if he needs it is worth five dollars. if he is in trouble,like his car wont start,,fair game again. since he is not the brother,nor the son,since he is not in our family,,and especially since we don't love him,the price goes up.

now the further we get away from our children and family the more the price goes up. one of the things we call money with the picture of a king on it to the ones we love,,,,and two to the neighbor we barley like. the further out away from the house where we say god resides the higher the price. if the next town,handfuls of the thing we weigh on the scale,,,"lead on this side, love on the other",,,

after we move further away from who we consider brothers we love,,,the price changes again we say "we will nuke them till they glow and take their oil!!!!",,,,see how the price is different based on whom we love?,,,,,,,now money is divisible by the numbers written on it,not as short as a hundred foot measuring tape.,,,,,,,longer it measures the whole man.

one man rolls his money scale out and says "the baby is starving,but the baby is not equal to my love for the scale",,,,a man who is cold is measured by the paper tender.,,,,,,,and a man with a paper tender is measured by the man who is cold.

god is love,money is hatred,,,,,,,,,,,money is the root of all evil,,,,,,,who is a man among you who will measure the love of his neighbor?,,,,he stands out among you,he has in one hand images,and creations of man and numbers,,,,,,,and the more he has in his right hand,the less he has in the other. now in the other he should have love,but it will not weigh on this scale for the more money he has the less love he possesses.

now then tho,,i am as if i am an beggar.,,,,and as Ive told you before you've been re-manipulated,,,that is it became difficult to calculate all of the greed and hatred. so then they developed the new system to measure it. namely,let he that hath wisdom calculate it. that is a secure password,no other than you having wisdom of the number of your name memorized in your forehead.,,,yet never the less the same measurement. but i beg you plug in your machine and drag it out to the gate of the city and scan your debit card and enter the number of your name,,,and give me i am cold and hungry.

here is the tape stretched out in the other direction,,,,,six-hundred,for Noah was six-hundred when he entered into the ark and the first day came to its evening. sixty and six,for the image Nebuchadnezzar set forth was sixty cubits tall and six wide. for in six days the lord created the heavens and the earth and on the seventh he rested. remember this one thing,that to the lord a day is as a thousand years,and a thousand years as a day.

for in the day ye eat thereof ye shall surly die,and god created the heavens and the earth,and the earth was void,,,,and when Adam was nine hundred and thirty years old he died,,,,in the first day of creation. withholding seventy years then later fulfilled in the captivity in Babylon. and the earth was void and without form in the first day in the flood.

and in the second day Peleg was born,,,and Pangaea was divided. that is there was a firmament in heaven and the dry land appeared.and the Americas drifted away from the men and Eden went south to the bottom.and the morning and the evening were the second set of thousand years.

six hundred,,,because Noah was six hundred when he entered the ark.and sixty and six,for the image Nebuchadnezzar set forth.,,,,,,,,the lord said,"from the beginning i tell you the end thereof,and from ancient of days the thing i will cause to come to pass",,,,,,the thing that was,this is that which shall come to pass,,,,,,it is a prophecy.

and money is the root of all evil,,,,,six thousand years,,,,and the millennial,,,but you cannot calculate without the eaight day. that is the lord rose on the first day,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is the lords day,,,