IF Money is the ROOT of EVIL, Then Why Use It Seeing What It Does To People?
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Not just this nation. We can save the world! I just don't understand people. We no longer have to live this way. PLEASE Homwardbound, you are one of the few who seems to at least have any sense to what I'm saying.
Go to youtube and search for 'The Venus Project.' I know we can beat money. Those that rule knows this too.
Go to youtube and search for 'The Venus Project.' I know we can beat money. Those that rule knows this too.
Sorry the problem is much deeper then the little band aid that you want to put on it. You honestly think that by changing the system it will change the heart of man? The social issues,the politics,all the garbage and filth will not change,which is at the heart of the problem,the heart of the problem is MAN IS DEAD IN SIN and Trespasses and must be born again. The only way these things can ever change is for the heart of man to be made new. All the rest is just a symptom of the root problem. Our task that Jesus gave us is to preach the gospel and make disciples.
And please where are we told we can save anyone ourselves? It is the Father who saves us through faith in Jesus.
And please where are we told we can save anyone ourselves? It is the Father who saves us through faith in Jesus.
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All of that goes away when we get rid of money. There are no political institutions, there are no lawyers, there are no police. These things are not needed.
If the love of money is the root of ALL evil, then if you take the money away, the love of it will cease as well having nothing to nourish that love. From this ALL EVIL GOES AWAY!!!!!! How hard is this!?
A plant (in this case EVIL) can only grow if given food and water. Now if love and money is this plant's food and water, taking away MONEY insures the plant cannot survive! ALL EVIL WILL DIE AWAY.
If the love of money is the root of ALL evil, then if you take the money away, the love of it will cease as well having nothing to nourish that love. From this ALL EVIL GOES AWAY!!!!!! How hard is this!?
A plant (in this case EVIL) can only grow if given food and water. Now if love and money is this plant's food and water, taking away MONEY insures the plant cannot survive! ALL EVIL WILL DIE AWAY.
How hard is it for you to understand you first are not quoting that verse correctly? This is what it says
1 Timothy 6
These are the things you are to teach and insist on. [SUP]3 [/SUP]If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, [SUP]4 [/SUP]they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions [SUP]5 [/SUP]and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But godliness with contentment is great gain. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
So where does it say that money itself is the root of ALL evil? It plainly says the LOVE of money is A root of all kinds of evil. Not even that it is the only root of evil.
1 Timothy 6
These are the things you are to teach and insist on. [SUP]3 [/SUP]If anyone teaches otherwise and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to godly teaching, [SUP]4 [/SUP]they are conceited and understand nothing. They have an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions [SUP]5 [/SUP]and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godliness is a means to financial gain.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But godliness with contentment is great gain. [SUP]7 [/SUP]For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.[SUP]10 [/SUP]For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
So where does it say that money itself is the root of ALL evil? It plainly says the LOVE of money is A root of all kinds of evil. Not even that it is the only root of evil.
Are YOU content with 133,000 kids UNDER THE AGE OF 5 dying for simple lack of food? Are YOU content with millions of people in the same predicament being homeless? I take no verse out of context being evident that not all have food and clothing. Not all have a home. Why? Because we as a people ARE NOT CONTENT with those things. For indeed the love of money is the cause and the root of this problem.
Why are you putting words in my mouth? Where did I say I was content with children starving to death?
Yes you did take out of context and you also misquoted it. You said money is the root of all evil which is NOT what that verse says and if you misquoted it that badly shouldn't it make you wonder why and if you need to go back and study it again?
Yes you did take out of context and you also misquoted it. You said money is the root of all evil which is NOT what that verse says and if you misquoted it that badly shouldn't it make you wonder why and if you need to go back and study it again?
You are the same type that will scold someone for using jesus without a capital "J" or God without a capital "G." One more reason why the LETTER KILLS! That issue again was addressed by the second post in the thread and yet here we are on post #353 still discussing a grammatical mistake... How does this help the next 133,000 kids under the age of 5 in Somalia who are poised to die this year from lack of food or housing?
How do you solve these issues? By telling these people that God loves them and they need to simply get a job or a better one???
How do you solve these issues? By telling these people that God loves them and they need to simply get a job or a better one???
There were a time that the USA were a starving country, but until a few natives of the land had brought them food to eat and had shown them how to cultivate certain plants for food. The natives were hostile toward the europeans and which they had believed that they were devils. What had made the natives to have a change of heart to help the europeans? The world has God in them and they have the devil in them also; but from what I see is that the world is listening to the devil rather than to listen to God. By our fruits, it show that whom reigns over us; and I know that it isn't God.
as i have pointed out here and in other post about the swap-over from hard currency to the debit card system.,,,now even i have tried to not accept this new system of finance(and have no debit card i currently use),,,that is last month the federal gov. changed over to a paperless system.
so the same point remains for all of us pay cards,debit cards ect.,,,,,that is beginning last month "no one without a debit card/bank account" will receive social security payment with-out one. i say this because of your age 55 so by law in 9 years you must have one to receive s.s.,,,now at present any rapid refund for income tax is done via debit account,meaning we must have a debit card number to receive a refund. but as i point out both fed. gov. and state gov. are shifting to paperless so it will become impossible to comply with the law if we still refuse to maintain a bank account.
maybe i should have not replied with quote directly to you(forgive me if i offend you,it is not my intention),,,my intention is to point out in the many post the a shift of currency type referred to in the scripture. that is in Revelations 13;16-17 we are given "three separate methods we acquire (something) as a warning",,,,,,,,one is mark?,in our right hand. the other(two) is in our forehead,,,,,,and (3)the name of the beast.
now in rev. 14;9 "if any worship the beast,or his image(forth stipulation?),,,or receive the mark in their fore-head or right hand.(notice they are separated denoted different methods in scripture again). see rev.19;20 and then rev. 20;4,,,,(again they are denoted in scripture as "separate things",,,i.e.worship the beast,his image,,,,"or" receive a mark in right hand "or" fore-head. in rev. 16;2 a punishment is given to those "with the mark,,"and" those who worshiped the beast/image",,,again notice "two separate groups" and multiple methods of being deceived by the false prophet(rev. 19;20 "deceived").
now and i saved this till last Revelations 15;2 this group has "gotten victory" over,,,,,,,
(1)the beast
(2)and over the image
(3)over his mark
(4)number of his name
so by scripture this warning is about "four separate things",,,,now,and it is the modern mode of thinking to only look for "one thing fulfilling these scriptures" the debit system "number in your fore-head is one of these four things mentioned in scripture",,,,,,
in rev. 15;2 these who got victory over,,,,,,,did they never receive the 4 mentioned/or 1 of these? did they receive one or all of these(being deceived) then come away from it?,,,,,,,
but back to rev. 19 20 "deceived" nor in any of the other verses "receiveth/receive" by no means can be translated as,,,,,,,,"a government held me down and stuck a tattoo/chip in me by force",,,,,,,that is in scripture they are "deceived and they receive the mark of their own",,,that is they believe it is okay.
now they are separated for this reason,,,,back to Revelations 13;15,,,,,,,notice those who do not "worship the image should be killed" so there is a "stipulation of force enforced by the two horned beast" pertaining to the "forced worship of the image",,,but not the number.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it mearly points out that those who do not receive the mark/number "cannot buy,sell or eat",,,,,,,,,,,so notice in scripture it is always separate 1,2,3,4, things "by punishment from god",,,,,,,and in the scripture the beast with two horns also "separates these,1,2,3,4, i.e. the penalty for not worshiping the image is death,,,but the penalty for not receiving the mark is not being able to buy sell or eat.
so on to the one if we do not have a food stamp card,,,cannot eat. if we do not use a pay card,,cannot get paid.,if we do not have a debit card,cannot receive income tax refund. no debit=no s.s.i.,ect.ect. without it as fast as the system is transferring over to this system we across the next few years will not be able to buy or sell at wall-mart,,,,,pay your light bill,,,,get drivers license,,,buy license plates,,,,keep your job,,,ect.ect.
now Christ church in the beginning "book of acts",,,sold all and gave to the church,,,and were given housing,clothes,food,water,ect. as they had need. in the u.s. if you live on "church property",,,,and farm,and file a 114a form you are "tax exempt",,,,,,(notice you do not need a debit card/number to live as the original church),,,,,,notice you would have gotten victory over it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
so the same point remains for all of us pay cards,debit cards ect.,,,,,that is beginning last month "no one without a debit card/bank account" will receive social security payment with-out one. i say this because of your age 55 so by law in 9 years you must have one to receive s.s.,,,now at present any rapid refund for income tax is done via debit account,meaning we must have a debit card number to receive a refund. but as i point out both fed. gov. and state gov. are shifting to paperless so it will become impossible to comply with the law if we still refuse to maintain a bank account.
maybe i should have not replied with quote directly to you(forgive me if i offend you,it is not my intention),,,my intention is to point out in the many post the a shift of currency type referred to in the scripture. that is in Revelations 13;16-17 we are given "three separate methods we acquire (something) as a warning",,,,,,,,one is mark?,in our right hand. the other(two) is in our forehead,,,,,,and (3)the name of the beast.
now in rev. 14;9 "if any worship the beast,or his image(forth stipulation?),,,or receive the mark in their fore-head or right hand.(notice they are separated denoted different methods in scripture again). see rev.19;20 and then rev. 20;4,,,,(again they are denoted in scripture as "separate things",,,i.e.worship the beast,his image,,,,"or" receive a mark in right hand "or" fore-head. in rev. 16;2 a punishment is given to those "with the mark,,"and" those who worshiped the beast/image",,,again notice "two separate groups" and multiple methods of being deceived by the false prophet(rev. 19;20 "deceived").
now and i saved this till last Revelations 15;2 this group has "gotten victory" over,,,,,,,
(1)the beast
(2)and over the image
(3)over his mark
(4)number of his name
so by scripture this warning is about "four separate things",,,,now,and it is the modern mode of thinking to only look for "one thing fulfilling these scriptures" the debit system "number in your fore-head is one of these four things mentioned in scripture",,,,,,
in rev. 15;2 these who got victory over,,,,,,,did they never receive the 4 mentioned/or 1 of these? did they receive one or all of these(being deceived) then come away from it?,,,,,,,
but back to rev. 19 20 "deceived" nor in any of the other verses "receiveth/receive" by no means can be translated as,,,,,,,,"a government held me down and stuck a tattoo/chip in me by force",,,,,,,that is in scripture they are "deceived and they receive the mark of their own",,,that is they believe it is okay.
now they are separated for this reason,,,,back to Revelations 13;15,,,,,,,notice those who do not "worship the image should be killed" so there is a "stipulation of force enforced by the two horned beast" pertaining to the "forced worship of the image",,,but not the number.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it mearly points out that those who do not receive the mark/number "cannot buy,sell or eat",,,,,,,,,,,so notice in scripture it is always separate 1,2,3,4, things "by punishment from god",,,,,,,and in the scripture the beast with two horns also "separates these,1,2,3,4, i.e. the penalty for not worshiping the image is death,,,but the penalty for not receiving the mark is not being able to buy sell or eat.
so on to the one if we do not have a food stamp card,,,cannot eat. if we do not use a pay card,,cannot get paid.,if we do not have a debit card,cannot receive income tax refund. no debit=no s.s.i.,ect.ect. without it as fast as the system is transferring over to this system we across the next few years will not be able to buy or sell at wall-mart,,,,,pay your light bill,,,,get drivers license,,,buy license plates,,,,keep your job,,,ect.ect.
now Christ church in the beginning "book of acts",,,sold all and gave to the church,,,and were given housing,clothes,food,water,ect. as they had need. in the u.s. if you live on "church property",,,,and farm,and file a 114a form you are "tax exempt",,,,,,(notice you do not need a debit card/number to live as the original church),,,,,,notice you would have gotten victory over it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Numbers 20:1-8
20 Then came the children of Israel, even the whole congregation, into the desert of Zin in the first month: and the people abode in Kadesh; and Miriam died there, and was buried there.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And there was no water for the congregation: and they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And the people chode with Moses, and spake, saying, Would God that we had died when our brethren died before the Lord!
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And why have ye brought up the congregation of the Lord into this wilderness, that we and our cattle should die there?
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And wherefore have ye made us to come up out of Egypt, to bring us in unto this evil place? it is no place of seed, or of figs, or of vines, or of pomegranates; neither is there any water to drink.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the Lord appeared unto them.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
[SUP]8[/SUP]Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.
1 Corinthians 10:1-4
10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
I live in Chicago, Illinois. Listen, and watch. I will speak and God will not put me to shame.
20 Then came the children of Israel, even the whole congregation, into the desert of Zin in the first month: and the people abode in Kadesh; and Miriam died there, and was buried there.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And there was no water for the congregation: and they gathered themselves together against Moses and against Aaron.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And the people chode with Moses, and spake, saying, Would God that we had died when our brethren died before the Lord!
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And why have ye brought up the congregation of the Lord into this wilderness, that we and our cattle should die there?
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And wherefore have ye made us to come up out of Egypt, to bring us in unto this evil place? it is no place of seed, or of figs, or of vines, or of pomegranates; neither is there any water to drink.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And Moses and Aaron went from the presence of the assembly unto the door of the tabernacle of the congregation, and they fell upon their faces: and the glory of the Lord appeared unto them.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying,
[SUP]8[/SUP]Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink.
1 Corinthians 10:1-4
10 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
[SUP]2 [/SUP]And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
I live in Chicago, Illinois. Listen, and watch. I will speak and God will not put me to shame.
