If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?

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My same answer applies again.

PaulThomson said:
You are displaying an appalling lack of critical thinking and logic.

Asking someone for scripture that support their claim to know that there can or will be no sin possible in the coming ages, is not the same thing as" needing to know" that there can or will be no sin possible in the coming ages.

Nah, you just can't think of a clever come-back to all the evidence that you were the one who asked that dumb question. :)

Seriously, your question is so stupid and doesn't consider at all what God has done to defeat sin! I was honestly astonished that you kept asking it!

Tell us your conversion story - how did you come to saving faith in Christ that you don't know the answer to your question?


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PaulThomson

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Read what God tells us. He knows all things from beginning to end. He is the Alpha and Omega.

Believe in God. Don't believe he is all powerful, within all his creation,all knowing,and,as he says,all things conform to his will and plan.

Clearly, God's idea of "All", does not confirm to that of some of ours.
You are railing incoherently.
 

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Nah, you just can't think of a clever come-back to all the evidence that you were the one who asked that dumb question. :)

Seriously, your question is so stupid and doesn't consider at all what God has done to defeat sin! I was honestly astonished that you kept asking it!

Tell us your conversion story - how did you come to saving faith in Christ that you don't know the answer to your question?


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I will follow the advice in this haiku.

Avoid rabbit trails
In the green room of your mind.
Follow paths of peace.
 
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If sin is not imputed without the law, how can some claim that babies and children die because Adam's sin is imputed to them?


Simple: A "religious system" can make any stupid, non-biblical, and meaningless "CLAIM" they please!!!! It's only "Theology" after all!!!

Catholics erasing "Original SIN with their phony Pedobaptism procedure is one example, which is really only a cash cow, and an attempt to get people i9nto their religious system by TREATS, and Coercion in "God's name".
 
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I will follow the advice in this haiku.

Avoid rabbit trails
In the green room of your mind.
Follow paths of peace.
I believe that haiku is comprised of three lines - 5 words in the first line, 7 words in the second line, and 5 words in the third line. You did have 17 syllables though so it's not all bad.
 

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I believe that haiku is comprised of three lines - 5 words in the first line, 7 words in the second line, and 5 words in the third line. You did have 17 syllables though so it's not all bad.
Your aim is merely to be contentious.
Haiku: a Japanese poem with three lines of five, seven and five syllables
 

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Actually, I'm the one who does not need to "know" if sin is possible after we are clothed with the imperishable. because I believe the power of the cross to reconcile sinners is eternal, and will continue to be efficacious after the resurrection and on into eternity. .
How could it be to continue to be into eternity?

For the body he died with to pay for our sins?
Is no longer the same kind of body He now has!

And, as far as , for us in eternity?
How could he have died on the Cross for our alleged sins in eternity?
When he did not die for our alleged sins, while not having a body like we will have once resurrected?
 

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I'm asking for your conversion story. How did you come to faith in Christ and not know the answer to your question?
There is no answer to my question. If there is, no one has provided it yet in this thread,

Conversion stories is not the topic of this thread. I have shared mine in other threads.
 
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You are a false prophet? From your own evidence I accept your confession.

All Christ's children should learn from you.

Anytime someone insists God cannot do what he says he has or can,nor does he know all things from the beginning to its end as you do,is to be taken as a false teacher.
And a warning.

Yes,you are 1 Corinthians 2:14 and John 4:1.

Thanks again.
 

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You should include untrue as well because if God doesn't know 1cm is not longer than 1km then I know more than God (or at least I know one thing He doesn't know).
It is true that "1 cm is not longer than 1 km". Hence by my definition, God would know that "1 cm is not longer than 1 km".

You are claiming that God must know that "1 cm is longer than 1 km". By your definition, God is certain of many things that are not true.
 

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Rom 5:12

Wherefore, as by one man the sin [of Adam] entered into the world, and death through the sin [of Adam]; and so [through Adam's sin] death passed into all men, upon which all sinned:
5:12 Διὰ τοῦτο ὥσπερ δι᾽ ἑνὸς ἀνθρώπου ἡ ἁμαρτία εἰς τὸν κόσμον εἰσῆλθεν καὶ διὰ τῆς ἁμαρτίας ὁ θάνατος καὶ οὕτως εἰς πάντας ἀνθρώπους ὁ θάνατος διῆλθεν ἐφ᾽ ᾧ πάντες ἥμαρτον·

eph' hOi does not mean "because".
Just to clarify .. you're saying:
we all sinned because we are dead?
or
we all sinned because we are subject to death?

I ask because you seem to have it backwards. In the translation above, you have predicated sin on death rather than death being the result of sin.

I also note you have said death passed into all men. How did this death get in me if I wasn't born with it?

Could you also clarify please .....

Is it the Cross that is efficacious in making null and voiding death (through the forgiveness of sin) or is it eating from the tree of life? Iow, what is really keeping us alive?
 
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There is no answer to my question. If there is, no one has provided it yet in this thread,

Conversion stories is not the topic of this thread. I have shared mine in other threads.
There were good and valid answers to your question. You just don't want to accept any of them.

Since you didn't want to accept the answers given to you, your own conversion story should show you the answer to your own question (that is, if you really were saved). That's why I asked. So point out your story in the other threads you've posted and I will read them.

I have another question for you: Did you ask God Himself your question? Did you ask God if He will allow sin in ages to come? What did He say?


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You are a false prophet? From your own evidence I accept your confession.

All Christ's children should learn from you.

Anytime someone insists God cannot do what he says he has or can,nor does he know all things from the beginning to its end as you do,is to be taken as a false teacher.
And a warning.

Yes,you are 1 Corinthians 2:14 and John 4:1.

Thanks again.
Yes, he basically exposed what is truly in his heart and mind which doesn't line up with God at all

I don't pay heed to anything he says anymore.


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