If someone knowingly chooses to believe false doctrine,

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Intersection said:
Do you really believe that the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ and the false doctrine of the Devil are the same thing? :eek:
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Broad sweeping generalizations is a form of lazy argumentation in my book.

A false dichotomy (also called a false dilemma) is a logical fallacy where a situation is presented as having only two options or outcomes, when in fact there may be others.



It simplifies complex issues unfairly and forces people to choose between extremes.

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Dino246

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HeIsHere said:
False dichotomy.
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Actually, it isn’t. The error that permeates Intersection’s posts is the implicit conflation of “all” into the idea of “correct doctrine”.

In reality, people can believe some correct doctrines and some incorrect doctrines at the same time… even knowingly. They are in process… as we all are. Growth happens when we reject the false doctrines (typically one by one) and embrace the related sound doctrines.

What Intersection seems to think (wrongly) is that all saved people believe only correct doctrines all the time, and anyone who believes anything false is not saved. By his own warped logic, he himself is not saved.
 
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Dino246 said:
Actually, it isn’t. The error that permeates Intersection’s posts is the implicit conflation of “all” into the idea of “correct doctrine”.

In reality, people can believe some correct doctrines and some incorrect doctrines at the same time… even knowingly. They are in process… as we all are. Growth happens when we reject the false doctrines (typically one by one) and embrace the related sound doctrines.

What Intersection seems to think (wrongly) is that all saved people believe only correct doctrines all the time, and anyone who believes anything false is not saved. By his own warped logic, he himself is not saved.
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Yes, this is true.
 
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HeIsHere said:
Broad sweeping generalizations is a form of lazy argumentation in my book.

A false dichotomy (also called a false dilemma) is a logical fallacy where a situation is presented as having only two options or outcomes, when in fact there may be others.



It simplifies complex issues unfairly and forces people to choose between extremes.

(Chat GPT, just easier to cut and paste)
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Thank you, Lord, for the "ignore" feature. Goodbye, Intersection, which I suspect is an allusion to your philosophical bent.

Intersectionality is an analytical framework for understanding how groups' and individuals' social and political identities result in unique combinations of discrimination and privilege.
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Thank you for that very helpful tip!
I had reached the conclusion that Intersection was a paid troll, tasked with picking up a Profile and making as many posts as possible, to get the Profile tagged "Well known member", so that it could be used by others at a later date as part of a foreign influence operation....
 
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Dino246 said:
Actually, it isn’t. The error that permeates Intersection’s posts is the implicit conflation of “all” into the idea of “correct doctrine”.

In reality, people can believe some correct doctrines and some incorrect doctrines at the same time… even knowingly. They are in process… as we all are. Growth happens when we reject the false doctrines (typically one by one) and embrace the related sound doctrines.

What Intersection seems to think (wrongly) is that all saved people believe only correct doctrines all the time, and anyone who believes anything false is not saved. By his own warped logic, he himself is not saved.
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Only the elect ever ultimately believe the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ. You can't prove that those who are not the elect will ever ultimately believe the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ. :love:
 
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Maori_Aussie said:
Thank you for that very helpful tip!
I had reached the conclusion that Intersection was a paid troll, tasked with picking up a Profile and making as many posts as possible, to get the Profile tagged "Well known member", so that it could be used by others at a later date as part of a foreign influence operation....
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This is the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ operation. :love:
 
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Intersection said:
Only the elect ever ultimately believe the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ. You can't prove that those who are not the elect will ever ultimately believe the correct doctrine of Jesus Christ. :love:
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Then by your logic your not one of the elct since you cannot describe correct doctrine only give the same vague answers while attacking those who disagree with you. I asked you last night what is the doctrine of Jesus Christ I am still waiting for an answer
 
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Then by your logic your not one of the elct since you cannot describe correct doctrine only give the same vague answers while attacking those who disagree with you. I asked you last night what is the doctrine of Jesus Christ I am still waiting for an answer
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Intersection said:
Correct doctrine of Jesus Christ is doctrine which is not wrong.

Which specific correct doctrine of Jesus Christ would you like to discuss today?
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which doctrine is not wrong? if you were to explain to a new believer what doctrine is correct what doctrine would you explain what specific doctrine is the correct doctrine? osas election the rapture ect. what doctrine specifically is not wrong
 
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which doctrine is not wrong? if you were to explain to a new believer what doctrine is correct what doctrine would you explain what specific doctrine is the correct doctrine? osas election the rapture ect. what doctrine specifically is not wrong
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You still didn't let me know which specific correct doctrine of Jesus Christ would you like to discuss today?
 
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Intersection said:
You still didn't let me know which specific correct doctrine of Jesus Christ would you like to discuss today?
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That is because you refuse to answer mine so again what specifically qualifies as correct doctrine? yes I know doctrine that is true but which doctrine is true then?
 
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