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Budman

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People like Jason and Kenneth are habitual sinners. They sin every day - just like the rest of us. They love to claim that if one continues in sin, they aren't really saved and won't make it to heaven.

Well, by their own standards, they are lost.
 
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Sorry, I don't sin every day. That's a false accusation. Also, it is not my standards or works that save me. It is God's standard within His Word (i.e. The Commands in the New Testament) and it the work of Christ (God) done within me.
 
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Sorry, I don't sin every day. That's a false accusation. Also, it is not my standards or works that save me. It is God's standard within His Word (i.e. The Commands in the New Testament) and it the work of Christ (God) done within me.
The scary part is that you believe this: "Sorry, I don't sin every day."
 

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Hey look! It's Jason and Kenneth!
 
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Exactly. Jason is a liar.
How can I trust your word or know that your telling the truth if you yourself have said you are a "sinning saint"? That doesn't really instill confidence that your word is true by saying stuff like that.
 
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How can I trust your word or know that your telling the truth if you yourself have said you are a "sinning saint"? That doesn't really instill confidence that your word is true by saying stuff like that.
Is continuing to create discord, when you have repeatedly been asked to stop, sinning?

...and on a Sunday, at that.
 
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So now you are just putting forth a false accusation in the form of comic?
Your signature puts the Christian faith and salvation in the form of a comic - What's you're purpose here on CC, besides stirring up trouble?
 

Budman

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To clarify:

The Bible says, "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." (1 John 1:8)

Jason claims there are days he is without sin. That means he is deceived and the truth is not in him - i.e., he is indeed a liar.
 
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Your signature puts the Christian faith and salvation in the form of a comic - What's you're purpose here on CC, besides stirring up trouble?
You are an enemy of all unrighteousness if you cannot see the comic is to lead people to Christ. You attack me instead of the doctrine. But Jesus essentially said we would be persecuted verbally.
 
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To clarify:

The Bible says, "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us." (1 John 1:8)

Jason claims there are days he is without sin. That means he is deceived and the truth is not in him - i.e., he is indeed a liar.
Try reading the context which is 1 John 2:3-4.
 
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You are an enemy of all unrighteousness if you cannot see the comic is to lead people to Christ. You attack me instead of the doctrine. But Jesus essentially said we would be persecuted verbally.
I think you should leave the reproving up to God;

[h=1]Proverbs 3New International Version (NIV)[/h][h=3]Wisdom Bestows Well-Being[/h]3 My son, do not forget my teaching,
but keep my commands in your heart,
2 for they will prolong your life many years
and bring you peace and prosperity.


3 Let love and faithfulness never leave you;
bind them around your neck,
write them on the tablet of your heart.
4 Then you will win favor and a good name
in the sight of God and man.


5 Trust in the Lord with all your heart
and lean not on your own understanding;
6 in all your ways submit to him,
and he will make your paths straight.[a]


7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear the Lord and shun evil.
8 This will bring health to your body
and nourishment to your bones.


9 Honor the Lord with your wealth,
with the firstfruits of all your crops;
10 then your barns will be filled to overflowing,
and your vats will brim over with new wine.


11 My son, do not despise the Lord’s discipline,
and do not resent his rebuke,
12 because the Lord disciplines those he loves,
as a father the son he delights in.[b]


13 Blessed are those who find wisdom,
those who gain understanding,
14 for she is more profitable than silver
and yields better returns than gold.
15 She is more precious than rubies;
nothing you desire can compare with her.
16 Long life is in her right hand;
in her left hand are riches and honor.
17 Her ways are pleasant ways,
and all her paths are peace.
18 She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her;
those who hold her fast will be blessed.


19 By wisdom the Lord laid the earth’s foundations,
by understanding he set the heavens in place;
20 by his knowledge the watery depths were divided,
and the clouds let drop the dew.


21 My son, do not let wisdom and understanding out of your sight,
preserve sound judgment and discretion;
22 they will be life for you,
an ornament to grace your neck.
23 Then you will go on your way in safety,
and your foot will not stumble.
24 When you lie down, you will not be afraid;
when you lie down, your sleep will be sweet.
25 Have no fear of sudden disaster
or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked,
26 for the Lord will be at your side
and will keep your foot from being snared.


27 Do not withhold good from those to whom it is due,
when it is in your power to act.
28 Do not say to your neighbor,
“Come back tomorrow and I’ll give it to you”—
when you already have it with you.
29 Do not plot harm against your neighbor,
who lives trustfully near you.
30 Do not accuse anyone for no reason—
when they have done you no harm.


31 Do not envy the violent
or choose any of their ways.


32 For the Lord detests the perverse
but takes the upright into his confidence.
33 The Lord’s curse is on the house of the wicked,
but he blesses the home of the righteous.
34 He mocks proud mockers
but shows favor to the humble and oppressed.
35 The wise inherit honor,
but fools get only shame.

 
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Try reading the context which is 1 John 2:3-4.
Can you "try" explaining why YOU have come to the conclusion that 1 John 2:3-4 is THE ONLY ACCEPTABLE context relating to 1 John 1:8?
 

Budman

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Hey WW - is Jason playing the victim card yet?

He does that when he's losing a debate. :D
 
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You are an enemy of all unrighteousness if you cannot see the comic is to lead people to Christ. You attack me instead of the doctrine. But Jesus essentially said we would be persecuted verbally.
By the way, humans created doctrine -- not God.

Lean not on your own understanding...
 

Budman

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LOL! He did play the victim card! :p