Again Kenneth
OSAS does not equal Calvinism
Calvinism- in its fullest sense.. has salvation foreordained for only those who God knew in advance WILL do good works.
This is the Perseverance of the Saints teaching.
They may be secure in their salvation.. can't be lossed.. but that is only for those who have a pattern of good works that God selected in advance!
It is still works based!
Why is it always either Calvinism or Armenianism?
There are a whole lot of people who believe in OSAS who deny Calvinism on almost all points!
Churches I am from teach OSAS..but reject calvinism. Why? Because OSAS was taught straight from the bible way before John Calvin put together his systematic theology or whatever it is called.
Now I won't say the calvinist isn't saved.. I also want say the armenian isn't saved.. because part of believing in OSAS means that when God works in a person's heart to convert them.. they are then converted! What happens after that.. isn't dependent on the salvation in the first place!
Ah... why do I keep going in response with these threads? (Sigh)
Oh well.
Well what you are going by is the new age teaching of Calvinism, but the original doctrine of OSAS was adopted from Calvin by Augustine's eternal security doctrine that was started in the 4th century. As both concepts where not taught in the early church for the first couple of centuries.
Both Augustine and Calvin stated that falling away from the faith was impossible, but the bible has multiple scriptures that show exactly that can and does happen. Augustine went a bet further that Calvin did not adopt and that was apostasy of the Church, as Augustine said this was impossible also but Calvin did not.
It is the new age version of OSAS that denies they have any ties to the Calvinist doctrine, but the actually reality is that doctrine or standard was not taught in the church tell the 4th century from Augustine but was not even called once saved always saved tell Calvin.
Apostle Paul constantly says only those who continue in the faith, not once you have made a one time profession of faith you are fine from here on out. The bible does not even teach that and those who instruct on the continuing in the faith and show as the bible shows that a true faith is an active faith are not teaching a works by salvation gospel.
We are instructing that those works are proof of one who is truly saved.
For those who are truly saved through Christ
"will not" act and continue to walk as the rest of the sinful world.
They will turn away from those things and their actions will be guided by the fruits of the Spirit, and this is how we will know the saved from the unsaved by how they act, speak, and treat others.