Ignore Button Abuse: Ignorance is NOT BLISS!!!

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It allowed me to express myself. It may also reveal the tactics of some to truly see who the culprit is, without giving names of course. Ugly, if you are so opposed to this thread IGNORE it. :D See, I can join in on the fun too guys! :)
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Providing information and insight from years of being here? I thought that was more helpful than anything.
You may not use the ignore button but your unwillingness to see or understand an opposing viewpoint makes it clear what your real mindset is here. Rather ironic of you to start this thread then close your mind to people with another way of seeing things, and making it clear to them they are not welcome here for doing so. Really explains why you fit in so well here in the BDF. And yet another reminder why I, and so many others, avoid this section.
 
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Abuse: ab = from or away use = employ with purpose

denotation = literal meaning = use badly or use improperly

connotation = common usage = Do harm to
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so .. is it better to constantly bicker, or give yourself a break from time to time? There is an ignore button for a reason. Maybe we need a thread on Ignore button protocol.:)
 
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Lighten up Ben. If Just-me feels the 2 of u need some space, why can't you respect that. How many ways can you argue your positions? Someone said, (I forget who) "Be kind to everyone you meet for we all are in a great struggle".
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There really was no need to name drop. It isn't a matter of "respecting that", its a matter of false doctrine being propagated and not being allowed to be discussed because they don't want to be open and vulnerable to discuss what they hold to be truth. They wish to keep preaching without being scrutinized, or constructively criticized. They don't want to have a bible study, but rather stay discreet with words of illusion hiding their true intent.

How is it this is a bible study forum and its for discussion and yet someone will ignore you so that it can't be discussed and only one side can present itself? How is that respectful?
 
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There really was no need to name drop. It isn't a matter of "respecting that", its a matter of false doctrine being propagated and not being allowed to be discussed because they don't want to be open and vulnerable to discuss what they hold to be truth. They wish to keep preaching without being scrutinized, or constructively criticized. They don't want to have a bible study, but rather stay discreet with words of illusion hiding their true intent.

How is it this is a bible study forum and its for discussion and yet someone will ignore you so that it can't be discussed and only one side can present itself? How is that respectful?
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G'nite Ben.
 
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Ugly said:
Providing information and insight from years of being here? I thought that was more helpful than anything.
You may not use the ignore button but your unwillingness to see or understand an opposing viewpoint makes it clear what your real mindset is here. Rather ironic of you to start this thread then close your mind to people with another way of seeing things, and making it clear to them they are not welcome here for doing so. Really explains why you fit in so well here in the BDF. And yet another reminder why I, and so many others, avoid this section.
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Ugly, I'm sorry, but what the heck are you talking about? Have you read anything I have written where I have clearly said I am not opposed to the ignore feature being used properly? Why are you accusing me of close-mindedness when I have liked Angela's post that was pro ignore feature? Obviously I am not close minded and you need to compose yourself. You are way off base and need to settle down, how this is a reminder to avoid the BDF is beyond me. Are you trying to pick a fight? Grow up and use a little reading comprehension.
 
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Ben must be an only child. Sometimes an only child will learn that "tattling" on friends come over to play may get that toy back for ya, where kids that have siblings know..you got to go to sleep sometime. :) JK Ben, don't tell on me please.:cool:
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... I ... dont... even... what? @_@
 
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Karraster said:
so .. is it better to constantly bicker, or give yourself a break from time to time? There is an ignore button for a reason. Maybe we need a thread on Ignore button protocol.:)
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I was not suggesting that the ignore button has no legitimate use and I don't think Ben was either.

I was answering your question re how an ignore button can indeed be abused. I was not suggesting that you or any other SPECIFIC individual abuses it.
 
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G'nite Ben.
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You aren't exactly innocent Karraster... so stop trying to play this off as me bickering and you are just letting me let it out. I am expressing myself on the topic of abusing the ignore button. I am not raging about this. I am aggravated, however how people miss it, including you. Clearly seen here...

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@Just-Me and JaumeJ, the ones who follow you around harassing/derailing your threads..they remind me of the women in the assemblies that Paul told to be silent. Yes, where I grew up if a man went around crying and whining he was being ignored? the men would laugh and tell him to go quilt with the women. Ha, crybabies, do you ever once consider that you are at fault?
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You are so kind. I have considered if I was at fault, and I'm not. You are talking down to me as if I am crying, and that isn't the case. I am just having an open discussion of abusing the ignore feature for two reasons, first for those who know what has been going on recently this last week with your name drop to know who is at fault with the strife, and two its to just open up about all this week, people can see WHY there has been strife, if they happen upon it.

I don't know why you decided to belittle me in your first post here and even in that other thread, but all is plainly seen now. God bless, and may you mature in Christ.
 
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You aren't exactly innocent Karraster... so stop trying to play this off as me bickering and you are just letting me let it out. I am expressing myself on the topic of abusing the ignore button. I am not raging about this. I am aggravated, however how people miss it, including you. Clearly seen here...



You are so kind. I have considered if I was at fault, and I'm not. You are talking down to me as if I am crying, and that isn't the case. I am just having an open discussion of abusing the ignore feature for two reasons, first for those who know what has been going on recently this last week with your name drop to know who is at fault with the strife, and two its to just open up about all this week, people can see WHY there has been strife, if they happen upon it.

I don't know why you decided to belittle me in your first post here and even in that other thread, but all is plainly seen now. God bless, and may you mature in Christ.
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Ben,

It is NOT ABOUT YOU! Karraster belittles people he disagrees with. It seems to be his debating style. Note the combative attitude in his last quoted section. From what I have observed, you have both the intelligence and the language skills to put him in his place---not quite gently. That might be the only effective way to communicate with him.

I understand we are called to agape love which is seeking what is best for the other person; but Paul frequently demonstrates that sometimes what is best for another person is being told off less than gently.
 
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Well, this thread took an unexpected turn. T_T
 
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MarcR said:
Ben,

It is NOT ABOUT YOU! Karraster belittles people he disagrees with. It seems to be his debating style. Note the combative attitude in his last quoted section. From what I have observed, you have both the intelligence and the language skills to put him in his place---not quite gently. That might be the only effective way to communicate with him.
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Thanks MarcR, I needed to hear that. :) God bless. Appreciate it. I was starting to look too hard in the mirror.. haha :D
 
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I didn't even know there was an ignore button.
 
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I didn't even know there was an ignore button.
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I don't even know where to access it, haha. But even if I did, its never crossed my mind.

PS: Someone is going to take that as a self-righteous statement. Its not. lol
 
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BenFTW said:
Stop using the ignore button, ignorance is not bliss when such ignorance puts people in bondage!
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There are two separate issues here, as far as I can see.
1) Disagreement about a view of theology
2) A desire to put another viewpoint wherever the other view is put forward

No matter how much we believe we have "the truth" and those who agree with us walk in freedom and those who do not walk in bondage, it is ultimately up to the individual to decide where they stand.

Most likely people will fall into one camp or the other. Over time they might change. I have had friends of many different points of view, but I do not know how many are plugged into Jesus correctly or not. I could ask about myself and realise I can be pretty flaky myself. Now our theology says this is Gods work in our hearts. We can put our argument forward or viewpoint, but no matter how frustrating it appears, we do have to let God be sovereign.

Sometimes you will realise people just want to be heard, they have got an insight into something, but they are sure this is the best most important thing in the world. Why not listen to them and find out who they are, and try and love them through it.
 
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Ignore is only a marginally useful function. You can still see every time someone posts, and you can bet that a lot of people who use it view the hidden posts anyways, because they just can't stand it when they think someone they have on ignore might be talking about them. Putting people on ignore just gives plausible deniability and an excuse to not respond to everything.

I say rejoice that they have you on ignore because it cuts down on the noise in the room since they're not responding to everything you say. You're probably not going to get a meaningful response from them anyways.
 
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I just bring popcorn and watch the show.

​'popcorn anyone"
 
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Where to start? Lets just say that there is a certain person who ignores others because they disagree with his doctrine and so this person uses the ignore button. In doing this they have now made it "safe" for them to continue spreading their doctrine and without opposition in their eyes.

So, for the sake of others these people on ignore continue to refute the person at the cost of being accused of stalking, derailment of threads, defamation, and the likes. This goes on because no resolution can be made between the two parties because one party has decided to use the ignore button. The ignore button abuser uses selective hearing and only replies to posts that aren't addressing his doctrine, so no leeway can be made towards edification.

This has been going on lately, and the certain user has even gone to the lengths of trying to ban people he has ignored wrongly. Why do people use the ignore button as if it makes everything bliss, when in fact it breeds division? Using the ignore button is ignorant because if what you believe is truly false, then you wouldn't know it because you silence opposing ideas. To use the ignore button keeps you in ignorance of the truth if, indeed, what you believe is false but you would never figure that out if you ignore those with opposing view points.

It has caused so much strife as of late, using the ignore button and yet continuing to propagate doctrines others disagree with. Instead of having a bible study and going through the scriptures the person places people on ignore. How would that work in a bible study, in real life? Its even been pointed out, if you do have the truth and ignore others, how inconsiderate and selfish of you to withhold it. Right? The ignore feature while it has appropriate uses, it is also being abused lately to the degree that it has now caused strife and division to such a degree that the instigator is even trying to get people banned.

How can we define standing for the truth and refuting error as stalking? How can we be looked down, negatively, upon for representing the truth and refuting error? A person creates multiple threads with a perspective others disagree with and are put on ignore so they can't address him and yet they are in the wrong for being persistent in standing for the truth, at least for the sake of guests and those babes in Christ?

PS: Stop using the ignore button, ignorance is not bliss when such ignorance puts people in bondage!
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John 8:44 "You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. Whenever he speaks a lie, he speaks from his own nature, for he is a liar and the father of lies."
 
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This is why the ignore button is necessary according to scripture, but it shouldn't be used in haste. Give the person time, and see what their motivation is first. Then, when they have proven themselves, a proper Biblical decision can be made.

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. Romans 16:17

But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. 2 Timothy 2:23

Those that don't cause division should never be ignored IMO. So, all that read this thread, visitors and members alike, watch and see the reactions.

By the way, we all have the option of PMing. I am open to that. There is no excuse to cry about the ignore option.
 
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