"Cuts down on the noise in the room?" Yes, that is true. But those who follow others around looking for excuses to create discord are successfully doing the adversary's bidding by goading people into arguments hoping they will manifest as huge of a lack of the fruit of the Spirit as they themselves do. A pm is a good thing but these people won't use it because their game is to be seen by as many others as possible while they try to defame someone else's character.
Ignore Button Abuse: Ignorance is NOT BLISS!!!
- Thread starter BenFTW
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
By the way, you do know that these lies you have spelled out in front of everyone, and the others your comrades have written, amount to libel don't you?
From nolo.com legal encyclopedia:"Defamation" is a catch-all term for any statement that hurts someone's reputation. Written defamation is called "libel," and spoken defamation is called "slander."
From nolo.com legal encyclopedia:"Defamation" is a catch-all term for any statement that hurts someone's reputation. Written defamation is called "libel," and spoken defamation is called "slander."
The modus operandi of some around here is to attack the character of those who disagree with them, instead of 'attacking' the points of discussion. As I'm sure you know, this is called ad hominem (against the man), which is a logical fallacy employed by those who can't support a position based on it merits. Ad hominem is a sure sign that someone has lost an argument.
E
sorry...I see it was actually just us 2 that posted that verse
however, just me has advised the same in the other thread
I just totally loose respect when a so called believer thinks they can call other believers a devil or of the devil
IMO, the devil's job is made so much easier when believers allow him to speak through their lips in such accusations
and of course the fav name to call another who will not put the yoke of the law on their neck is pharisee
it's basically hopeless to reach a person who identifies with others that way
Context please.
Dear friends, no matter how much you get angry, scream at the screen these are ideas, words, concepts we are talking about. We have not killed people personally, or set them up to die, innocents framed.
Now Jesus was talking to the rulers of Israel under occupation by the romans. These rulers had got people killed, and for power reasons did not care about truth but only their own survival. Now to suggest anyone here is remotely in this same category is insane, and simply a lie. And these authorities were a threat to Jesus's life, and as Paul found out, where quite capable of assination or any other tactic to remove opponents. Paying for Judas to finger Jesus out of the public gaze shows how far they were prepared to go.
Now at worst people are putting their sincere ideas across. I do admire the sincerity and openness, though I may not agree with them, this is a good thing. I wish more could share like this, because it is through sharing we find out who we are and what we believe and can move forward.
I have been accused of reaching out for reasurance from satan as a child, which is why I am as I am today. This is the kind of fear we all face, "What if God was not God?" But I got to laugh. Only God loves, only God sent His son to die, and only God saves through sacrificial love, which if you demonstrate in your heart, you know that you are saved.
So rest assured, most here are definately saved, you may express it in different ways, and may go off the rails later, but if you cannot practice grace, maybe something is a little more off beam than you realise.
Dear friends, no matter how much you get angry, scream at the screen these are ideas, words, concepts we are talking about. We have not killed people personally, or set them up to die, innocents framed.
Now Jesus was talking to the rulers of Israel under occupation by the romans. These rulers had got people killed, and for power reasons did not care about truth but only their own survival. Now to suggest anyone here is remotely in this same category is insane, and simply a lie. And these authorities were a threat to Jesus's life, and as Paul found out, where quite capable of assination or any other tactic to remove opponents. Paying for Judas to finger Jesus out of the public gaze shows how far they were prepared to go.
Now at worst people are putting their sincere ideas across. I do admire the sincerity and openness, though I may not agree with them, this is a good thing. I wish more could share like this, because it is through sharing we find out who we are and what we believe and can move forward.
I have been accused of reaching out for reasurance from satan as a child, which is why I am as I am today. This is the kind of fear we all face, "What if God was not God?" But I got to laugh. Only God loves, only God sent His son to die, and only God saves through sacrificial love, which if you demonstrate in your heart, you know that you are saved.
So rest assured, most here are definately saved, you may express it in different ways, and may go off the rails later, but if you cannot practice grace, maybe something is a little more off beam than you realise.
I don't blame you a bit. It's better now, and hopefully it will stay that way. I've been doing a lot of praying.
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...pharisees-didnt-recognize-26.html#post2307460
Luke 6:28
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...pharisees-didnt-recognize-26.html#post2307460
Luke 6:28
Last edited:
I am sorry I was not trying to quote you, I was trying to emphasis what Jesus was addressing.
I would not personally used such a verse unless it applied. Most people I know with this kind of failure are personality and emotional manipulators and not in the same league as the pharisees.
The pharisees must have be psychopaths, with no heart, in many cases, simply because they did not care. It mattered zero to them that Jesus was God, and that is what Jesus hated most. The very people who should have supported his words and actions were doing the opposite. Funnily when I was younger I felt a lack of support from a church, but it was ignorance and fear that drove them, not this level of murdering hypocracy.
I would not personally used such a verse unless it applied. Most people I know with this kind of failure are personality and emotional manipulators and not in the same league as the pharisees.
The pharisees must have be psychopaths, with no heart, in many cases, simply because they did not care. It mattered zero to them that Jesus was God, and that is what Jesus hated most. The very people who should have supported his words and actions were doing the opposite. Funnily when I was younger I felt a lack of support from a church, but it was ignorance and fear that drove them, not this level of murdering hypocracy.
I'm 100% with you Ben, I understood your OP and the spirit in which you wrote it and I agree, but I see it as on a person to person basis.
I think you are very intelligent and wise, I think the rant and mockery of you is totally unwarranted. I admire you.
If I ignore someone I can't keep them on it.
[putting on Flac Jacket]
I think you are very intelligent and wise, I think the rant and mockery of you is totally unwarranted. I admire you.
If I ignore someone I can't keep them on it.
[putting on Flac Jacket]
By the way, what lies are you talking about.
My kids when I say something and then clarify what I meant, accuse me of changing the story. So I got to laugh.
Only when the reader or listener reflects back the ideas you intend to convey do you know they understood them. They may comment on the phrases in a way you did not expect, and seem to imply something you did not mean.
That is not a lie just a miss-understanding. Its intent is not to hurt, but maybe to make a point about something the reader feels strongly. I was attacked at length for holding to grace with no fruit ideas or possibly grace with fruit of works through the law. It was a bit nuts because it took a long time to convince them I did not hold the view they hated so much.
These forums are full of this, so care has to be taken. This is my take on this.
My kids when I say something and then clarify what I meant, accuse me of changing the story. So I got to laugh.
Only when the reader or listener reflects back the ideas you intend to convey do you know they understood them. They may comment on the phrases in a way you did not expect, and seem to imply something you did not mean.
That is not a lie just a miss-understanding. Its intent is not to hurt, but maybe to make a point about something the reader feels strongly. I was attacked at length for holding to grace with no fruit ideas or possibly grace with fruit of works through the law. It was a bit nuts because it took a long time to convince them I did not hold the view they hated so much.
These forums are full of this, so care has to be taken. This is my take on this.