Ignore Button Abuse: Ignorance is NOT BLISS!!!

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I didn't even know there was an ignore button.
:blush: Same goes here :smoke:

:) Its all true and nothing but the truth :happy:

:scarf: Please forgive us for being ignorant but we really dontknow anything
About this thing :yawn:

:sisid: thank you very much for the info
and for that we also like to give something that
not most people often do : whistle:

:rofl: Some of our breathrens and our fellows
Has no idea on how to :read: and to write :dontknow:

:now: And we are proud to say that
from the bottom of our heart and soul :ty:
 

BenFTW

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Let it be known that I didn't name names though there was insinuation that only those with awareness (of the issue) would be able to decipher. I did it that way so the thread wouldn't be removed and we could discuss this issue, but instead I was met with mockery and belittling. People misunderstood the intent of the OP and began attacking me. I even was told I was of the devil... sigh.

Well, as I said before, everything is coming to light and all is plainly being seen. The masks are coming off and whats beneath is being revealed. Reminds me of the Pharisees and Jesus referring them to a tomb.

So many replies, but I would like to thank people that came in support and encouragement. I appreciate it, it makes me know that people see whats going on and are not fooled by certain tactics. So for those people, thank you, thanks for revealing what this is all about and coming in agreement.
 

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By the way, you do know that these lies you have spelled out in front of everyone, and the others your comrades have written, amount to libel don't you?

From nolo.com legal encyclopedia:
"Defamation" is a catch-all term for any statement that hurts someone's reputation. Written defamation is called "libel," and spoken defamation is called "slander."
Libel to whom? I didn't name a particular person, but spoke of them vaguely. You made yourself known, you and your husband (also Karraster). There isn't one lie in my OP. Please refer to the supposed lie so that I may clarify. Ask your husband why he ignored me and you will see it was done wrongly and he continues to make comments addressing me but indirectly all the while calling for unity and edification. Of course you're going to side with your husband, you have a bias in all of this. Good for you for sticking up for your husband, but don't forget to stand up for truth.
 
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Ya know.....honestly.....who cares. Just another reason for people to be offended about stupid things.
 

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No.. I am not lying. anyone can go and read the posts and how I responded at that time, in that thread, to remarks of the same type of accusation

see, here you are accusing me of a supposed bald faced lie and then topping it off with I know that it is a bald faced lie

you should take your advice regarding obeying the word

I have continually tried to keep things on an even keel in the other thread...which can also be seen

Here is one of just-me's posts, #379, in which he references a response to Ben by intimating that Ben is a part of the kingdom of darkness




I am starting to think that the rhetoric and over the top accusations made by certain folks here are no less a fringe end of Christianity then certain cults who also believe they alone possess any truth worth having and in so doing, refer to Christians who do not adhere to their practices, as of the devil or devilish or having demons
He acts like I am the enemy and not a fellow believer in Christ, someone who is being used by the devil and not by God. He has gone so far to conclude that I am attacking him, when in fact I am addressing doctrine. There are people in the BDF that think every reply is personal to them, and not the subject at hand and with this mindset no strides towards edification can be made... unfortunately.

Thanks ember. :)
 
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Libel to whom? I didn't name a particular person, but spoke of them vaguely. You made yourself known, you and your husband (also Karraster). There isn't one lie in my OP. Please refer to the supposed lie so that I may clarify. Ask your husband why he ignored me and you will see it was done wrongly and he continues to make comments addressing me but indirectly all the while calling for unity and edification. Of course you're going to side with your husband, you have a bias in all of this. Good for you for sticking up for your husband, but don't forget to stand up for truth.

Truth you say !!!

I was there and present in the other threads between you and Just-Me, and your stance that he put you on ignore or is ignoring you was not done wrongfully. Which is why what you say would be slander and a lie as well.

You even started your own thread to try and get clarification on those of us you and a couple others were falsely trying to claim legalism on.

He has his reasons and he got tired of being accused of supposedly saying the written ordinances of the Mosaic law have to be obeyed for salvation, in which he never said any such thing.

Just-me and myself are tying to educate others in the Spiritual (moral) meanings behind the law, and to get people to take their focus just off the physical written ordinance form that brought forth death do to the flesh being weak !!!

For this we get accused of being legalist, and frankly we are tired of the false allegations !!!


God bless and dust your feet off and move on instead of accusing others of by your opinion of passing false doctrine which he is not doing !!!
 
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Truth you say !!!

I was there and present in the other threads between you and Just-Me, and your stance that he put you on ignore or is ignoring you was not done wrongfully. Which is why what you say would be slander and a lie as well.
It was wrongfully, Just-Me put hi on ignore, because Ben did not agree with Just-me. Plain and simple.

You even started your own thread to try and get clarification on those of us you and a couple others were falsely trying to claim legalism on.

He has his reasons and he got tired of being accused of supposedly saying the written ordinances of the Mosaic law have to be obeyed for salvation, in which he never said any such thing.
Another lie. No one claimed Just-Me said he obeyed for salvation.

Just-me and myself are tying to educate others in the Spiritual (moral) meanings behind the law, and to get people to take their focus just off the physical written ordinance form that brought forth death do to the flesh being weak !!!
The spiritual meaning of the law is that it brings death, And that one would come, called christ, who would die in our place.

Thats where you people errr.



For this we get accused of being legalist, and frankly we are tired of the false allegations !!!
Your a legalist, because your trying to get people to follow law. And you claim one can lose salvation (meaning it must be earned, hence the term legalist)


God bless and dust your feet off and move on instead of accusing others of by your opinion of passing false doctrine which he is not doing !!!

well he is, whether you and him think you are or not.
 
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but you just did actually


LOL!

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Really? Who was I supposedly responding to? I made a simple statement. That is a very good example of what have said is being done - assumptions made with no foundation.
 
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HERE...post 379 as I said...but don't just read the one post

just-me has been baiting Ben ...


what he just now posted, regarding my stating he is a prig, is exactly how he behaved throughout most of that thread

I understand Ben's frustration...it's a long thread, but if you take the time to read it, you will see where Ben appealed to him time after time to please answer him ....hence this thread regarding the ignore button

I have no problem with others in that thread I do not agree with entirely

if you do read, you will see where I actually did try to calm things down...things are not as just-me is trying to say
I cannot see where he say's anything about anyone being the spawn of satan.
 
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Just-me and myself are tying to educate others in the Spiritual (moral) meanings behind the law, and to get people to take their focus just off the physical written ordinance form that brought forth death do to the flesh being weak !!!

For this we get accused of being legalist, and frankly we are tired of the false allegations !!!
We, the obedient ones, are already focused on the spiritual meaning of the law - Christ. If you don't want to be accused of being a legalist (law cultist in my vocabulary), take your eyes off of the law and put them onto Christ.
 

BenFTW

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Truth you say !!!

I was there and present in the other threads between you and Just-Me, and your stance that he put you on ignore or is ignoring you was not done wrongfully. Which is why what you say would be slander and a lie as well.

You even started your own thread to try and get clarification on those of us you and a couple others were falsely trying to claim legalism on.

He has his reasons and he got tired of being accused of supposedly saying the written ordinances of the Mosaic law have to be obeyed for salvation, in which he never said any such thing.

Just-me and myself are tying to educate others in the Spiritual (moral) meanings behind the law, and to get people to take their focus just off the physical written ordinance form that brought forth death do to the flesh being weak !!!

For this we get accused of being legalist, and frankly we are tired of the false allegations !!!


God bless and dust your feet off and move on instead of accusing others of by your opinion of passing false doctrine which he is not doing !!!
It doesn't surprise me that you stick up for him KennethC. You're part of his posse. You guys hold similar view points, but you cannot deny his avoidance of answering questions forthright and his underhanded comments that are defamatory by nature. But, you still would rather argue his defense because you feel you have something in common with him.

The title of Legalism. You feel it is wrong to define you as such, and he too is being defined as such but you disagree with that. Feel free to disagree, but don't let that allegation blind you to his tactics, he isn't innocent. We know you don't believe we are to follow the written ordinances and I haven't accused you of that since the longest time when I wasn't speaking out of ignorance and finally you were open and honest. He, on the other hand, uses smoke and mirrors. This you cannot deny. Why can't he state plainly what you are saying? Ask yourself that. Then consider who you are defending.
 

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All I can say to that is - just look back at his and his comrades' attitude when they post. They post lies that if brought into a courtroom would be recognized as such by the evidence. My advice - know exactly what you are talking about and do your research before you post anything. Always remember these words from the Bible (hence God's own words) from Psalm 118:8, "But the point was that since you don't believe the Bible I don't consider you qualified to say anything about it."
What bible are you reading? Psalm 118:8 doesn't say that...

Psalm 118:8King James Version (KJV)

8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man.

Your interpretation of that is prideful and arrogant. You're telling people they don't believe the Word and therefore aren't qualified to comment... what a false allegation. You've used this against a user on this forum already, and it isn't fruitful. Its also disingenuous.
 
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He acts like I am the enemy and not a fellow believer in Christ, someone who is being used by the devil and not by God. He has gone so far to conclude that I am attacking him, when in fact I am addressing doctrine. There are people in the BDF that think every reply is personal to them, and not the subject at hand and with this mindset no strides towards edification can be made... unfortunately.

Thanks ember. :)
I saw it unfold

and I had no idea his wife also posted here

some very snide comments have been made and once I made it clear that I had a problem with those types of posts, once I called out the posts referencing the devil with an arrow pointing back to you, well, then a campaign to make it seem I had somehow lied about it all, began

I guess I could say plenty and be correct in what I say, but some folks here seem to have 3 faces...never mind 2

I truly dislike lies and twisting of what is said and false reports and all that lovely stuff that is employed at times

None of us are right all the time and I really am thinking cult or fringe Christian at this point...It doesn't make me happy to say so either
 
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Truth you say !!!

I was there and present in the other threads between you and Just-Me, and your stance that he put you on ignore or is ignoring you was not done wrongfully. Which is why what you say would be slander and a lie as well.

You even started your own thread to try and get clarification on those of us you and a couple others were falsely trying to claim legalism on.

He has his reasons and he got tired of being accused of supposedly saying the written ordinances of the Mosaic law have to be obeyed for salvation, in which he never said any such thing.

Just-me and myself are tying to educate others in the Spiritual (moral) meanings behind the law, and to get people to take their focus just off the physical written ordinance form that brought forth death do to the flesh being weak !!!

For this we get accused of being legalist, and frankly we are tired of the false allegations !!!


God bless and dust your feet off and move on instead of accusing others of by your opinion of passing false doctrine which he is not doing !!!

I was there also

I have a very different understanding of what went on
 
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I saw it unfold

and I had no idea his wife also posted here

some very snide comments have been made and once I made it clear that I had a problem with those types of posts, once I called out the posts referencing the devil with an arrow pointing back to you, well, then a campaign to make it seem I had somehow lied about it all, began

I guess I could say plenty and be correct in what I say, but some folks here seem to have 3 faces...never mind 2

I truly dislike lies and twisting of what is said and false reports and all that lovely stuff that is employed at times

None of us are right all the time and I really am thinking cult or fringe Christian at this point...It doesn't make me happy to say so either
Seems to me that the ones who protest the most have the most to hide....this comment is not about you btw. But generally, whenever I see someone all bent out of shape about being slighted in some way I think to myself....grow up and get over it.
 
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Revelation: 19. 3. And again they said: Alleluia. And her smoke ascendeth for ever and ever.
4. And the four and twenty ancients, and the four living creatures fell down and adored God that sitteth upon the throne, saying: Amen; Alleluia.

:smoke: thank you very much :happy:
 
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I cannot see where he say's anything about anyone being the spawn of satan.
please don't play coy

those were my words...I pasted a link to the exact verse and post your husband applied to Ben

do you actually think we are all dumb here or what?

further, you also made implications of the demonic towards Ben

anyone can read what I am talking about...or click on the link and see it for themself

I only know of cults calling believers in Christ demonic when a person does not agree with their interpretations of the Bible

I think I see a danger in these fringe beliefs that is akin to the danger that any extremist poses that believes all those who do not comply must be gotten rid of somehow

so of course you are not going to physically do something, so you besmirch, belittle, act dumb when it suits you and get angry when found out

but I guess you don't see that

I feel kind of sick about the whole thing...this is not just a debate or something, I start to think the devil really is around and fighting for souls

Let God be called true and the rest of us liars, but there is only ONE WAY to God and it is not through works or keeping the law or some sort of half baked combination

that's all I have to say
 

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I do not need an ignore button to ignore someone.

Now please don't interrupt me when I'm ignoring you.

For the cause of Christ
Roger