I'm sorry - but I still can't beleive in all this nonsense

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So are you not save too because of the same excuses? I'm confused...

I am not going to get in a silly fight with you when a person said they have reject Messiah. More important fish to fry.... With Love....
Hello little lost lamb who is not lost all for Jesus is looking for you. If you’ll let me I’ll take you to him.
 
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Hello little lost lamb who is not lost all for Jesus is looking for you. If you’ll let me I’ll take you to him.
 

OneFaith

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I'm sorry. I've tried. But believing in all this hokey pokey Jesus stuff I can't do. I've tried very hard. But the more I read and the more excuses I get for things like hurricanes happening the more I realize that's it's just all one big fairy tale lie. I feel like you are all brain-washed. I'm glad you all have something that makes you happy. But for me it made me more confused and more depressed. Everything is so inconsistent it's really pathetic.

examples:

The Earth is only 6,000 years old, I was told the age of trees, icebergs, rocks, carbon dating, etc.. is all wrong. Though they all match and state the earth is billions of years old, they are all wrong because a long time ago the seasons were different and it got cold-hot-cold again several times a day, whatever.

Hurricanes occur to bring people together. OK - sure. So an almighty god that can do anything preaches nothing but love, then uses death and horror to bring people together. Better yet - hurricanes punish people. ok - sure.

Slavery - all over the bible... read it

Gays.. They are so bad, so bad, that god will not let them into heaven. Yet god has a plan for all of us so obviously he planned them to be gay and go to hell. Guess you gotta fill it somehow because the divorced people are still going to heaven, oh wait, they are supposed to be punished with death.

God gave us free will. OK - good point. Then how does he have a plan for all of us?

You people and your excuses make no sense at all.

Anyone willing to convince me otherwise and succeeds I'll send a $1
Most people who ever lived on the face of the earth believed in a God, so you’re saying more people than not are brain washed?- now that is what’s hard to believe.

The earth is more like 15,000 years old, not 6,000. That’s not so hard to believe- look how far we’ve come in just the last hundred years- which is a very short time. You know what I find harder to believe? That man says dinosaurs lived billions of years before humans. (When I was a kid they said millions, now it’s billions). Man once believed and taught that the earth was flat, and if you sailed too far you’d fall off the edge. Man, even scientists, have been proven wrong, and you’re going to put your trust into what they say?

You need to understand the physical before you can understand the spiritual. For example, you cannot understand how you are either a slave to sin or a slave to righteousness unless you first understand what a slave is. And in order to do that, slaves had to exist. In the Old Testament things were done physically because they represented spiritual meanings in the New Testament. Therefore, God had His people go into slavery in Egypt because when we sin consequences come along with it. But He also deliver them from the bondage of slavery to show that He can deliver us from sin.

God did not plan gays to be homosexual. He gave us freewill, and some chose to use it for evil- such as homosexuality, murder, stealing, lying, etc. And with sin comes consequences- both on the earth (such as disease) and in the next life (hell). But Christ’s blood can wash away any and every sin- therefore someone who wrongly divorces, or a homosexual, or even a murderer can repent and still have a chance at heaven.

You can keep your dollar. But whether you believe it or not, good and evil do exist- therefore God and Satan exist- therefore heaven and hell exist- no matter how much you deny it in your heart. You will believe it someday, I just hope that happens before it’s too late.
 
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mcubed

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No, but science has to match Bible because Bible is always right.

Someone has said they reject Messiah I will not fight over science... but Yes!!! the Bible is right about when G-d Created. But this does not send a mans soul to hell... stupid fights, in light of salvation, can.....
 

Bladerunner

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I'm sorry. I've tried. But believing in all this hokey pokey Jesus stuff I can't do. I've tried very hard. But the more I read and the more excuses I get for things like hurricanes happening the more I realize that's it's just all one big fairy tale lie. I feel like you are all brain-washed. I'm glad you all have something that makes you happy. But for me it made me more confused and more depressed. Everything is so inconsistent it's really pathetic.

examples:

The Earth is only 6,000 years old, I was told the age of trees, icebergs, rocks, carbon dating, etc.. is all wrong. Though they all match and state the earth is billions of years old, they are all wrong because a long time ago the seasons were different and it got cold-hot-cold again several times a day, whatever.

Hurricanes occur to bring people together. OK - sure. So an almighty god that can do anything preaches nothing but love, then uses death and horror to bring people together. Better yet - hurricanes punish people. ok - sure.

Slavery - all over the bible... read it

Gays.. They are so bad, so bad, that god will not let them into heaven. Yet god has a plan for all of us so obviously he planned them to be gay and go to hell. Guess you gotta fill it somehow because the divorced people are still going to heaven, oh wait, they are supposed to be punished with death.

God gave us free will. OK - good point. Then how does he have a plan for all of us?

You people and your excuses make no sense at all.

Anyone willing to convince me otherwise and succeeds I'll send a $1
I do have a question for the atheist guest on this forum. TS1107..I would like to ask you a question????

How do you get rid of your QUILT since you do not believe in a God???......
 

Jackson123

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#49
I'm sorry. I've tried. But believing in all this hokey pokey Jesus stuff I can't do. I've tried very hard. But the more I read and the more excuses I get for things like hurricanes happening the more I realize that's it's just all one big fairy tale lie. I feel like you are all brain-washed. I'm glad you all have something that makes you happy. But for me it made me more confused and more depressed. Everything is so inconsistent it's really pathetic.

examples:

The Earth is only 6,000 years old, I was told the age of trees, icebergs, rocks, carbon dating, etc.. is all wrong. Though they all match and state the earth is billions of years old, they are all wrong because a long time ago the seasons were different and it got cold-hot-cold again several times a day, whatever.

Hurricanes occur to bring people together. OK - sure. So an almighty god that can do anything preaches nothing but love, then uses death and horror to bring people together. Better yet - hurricanes punish people. ok - sure.

Slavery - all over the bible... read it

Gays.. They are so bad, so bad, that god will not let them into heaven. Yet god has a plan for all of us so obviously he planned them to be gay and go to hell. Guess you gotta fill it somehow because the divorced people are still going to heaven, oh wait, they are supposed to be punished with death.

God gave us free will. OK - good point. Then how does he have a plan for all of us?

You people and your excuses make no sense at all.

Anyone willing to convince me otherwise and succeeds I'll send a $1
Jesus is real brother


https://youtu.be/-CS0BDLWEbw
 

miknik5

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Jun 2, 2016
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I'm sorry. I've tried. But believing in all this hokey pokey Jesus stuff I can't do. I've tried very hard. But the more I read and the more excuses I get for things like hurricanes happening the more I realize that's it's just all one big fairy tale lie. I feel like you are all brain-washed. I'm glad you all have something that makes you happy. But for me it made me more confused and more depressed. Everything is so inconsistent it's really pathetic.

examples:

The Earth is only 6,000 years old, I was told the age of trees, icebergs, rocks, carbon dating, etc.. is all wrong. Though they all match and state the earth is billions of years old, they are all wrong because a long time ago the seasons were different and it got cold-hot-cold again several times a day, whatever.

Hurricanes occur to bring people together. OK - sure. So an almighty god that can do anything preaches nothing but love, then uses death and horror to bring people together. Better yet - hurricanes punish people. ok - sure.

Slavery - all over the bible... read it

Gays.. They are so bad, so bad, that god will not let them into heaven. Yet god has a plan for all of us so obviously he planned them to be gay and go to hell. Guess you gotta fill it somehow because the divorced people are still going to heaven, oh wait, they are supposed to be punished with death.

God gave us free will. OK - good point. Then how does he have a plan for all of us?

You people and your excuses make no sense at all.

Anyone willing to convince me otherwise and succeeds I'll send a $1
Maybe one day GOD will open the eyes and ears of your heart to the truth
no one can see the kingdom of GOD unless he is born agsin


it isn't something we have done or can do
its fknwrhung HE has done and does
 

Amberlight

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Umm I think earth is lot older than 6000 years even by assumed Bible standards.
 

miknik5

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Faith in and on JESUS


evren (and more importantly) when you can't figure things out completely

faith still is faith

if it is directed in and on CHRIST JESUS
 

miknik5

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#55
That's an angry Mickey Mouse?