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The thing about seeing insights is they are seen within a context. It is sometimes difficult to give the context, because one knows in ones head the context but you do not speak it out because you assume it is there.

A good illustration of this is one of my daughters aged 6 had a teacher whose name was Rutter, but she said Wutter.
Now we would say Wutter and she would correct us and think she said Rutter but said Wutter.

It was funny because she got so annoyed and was so convinced she had said it right. The brain is strange like that.
So I apologize if maybe it does not come across right, but as with all things, practice makes perfect.
No, it's not you. And it may not always be me. It seems that, in some areas, I agree wholeheartedly with some things you say (as I do with a few others here), and there are other areas that I honestly have no idea how you might have reached a certain conclusion, (Again, as I do with a few others here).
 

KohenMatt

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Because there is "safety" in anonymity. Nobody REALLY knows anyone else on these fora, so without the need of proper social skills, one can be a rude as one wishes.
Well said. You said it more succinctly and accurate than I have tried to in the past.
 
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In church today as everyone was singing praise I looked around at all the many ppl and I thought to myself each person here has a different belief about something has a different view has a different interpretation of the bible but instead of them bickering attacking each other going into pretty dumb debates they are all acting as one praising God enjoying each others presence and listening to a preacher in order to grow strong in God, then I thought of the bdf in cc and I was confused as to why they differ so much, if we were all in person I doubt we would act like we do here then wondered if each of these ppl were to go online and didn't know each other went into debate of God and the bible and Christianity would all these ppl who are acting as one in church become what we see here?
If we were all together, in person, singing praises, yes! A fight would break out, and I'd be the cause.

I'd be singing, more than one person would tell me to be quiet, shut up, stop that awful racket, and then others would run to my defense and say, "She's allowed to make a joyful noise." And then there would be a long debate on whether what I was doing was joyful, because it's bad enough that you can't tell. For instance, do cats yowl late at night joyfully or angrily, since I make a worse sound than that. And then there would be another argument on just that -- do cats yowl in anger? And then there would be an argument about cats in church, and then, and then, and then.

So honestly? Get me singing with other believers, and I can guarantee joyful doesn't last too long.

I sure hope God fixes voices in heaven. :rolleyes:
 
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What we do here is fellowship. We discuss doctrine and discern the truth. may not be pretty at times, but this is fellowship.Fellowship is believers discussing doctrine and studying it out to discern the truth.


Fellowship is not going to potlucks or church and listening to other peoples problems and adversities and praying for them after their whining is done.

What most of us get at church, is someone saying," I don't mean to gossip but....." or "I have a problem a work or home and .........." or "did you hear about so and so?"or " please pray for my.......(Which usually is gossip!)


True Christian fellowship is discussing the doctrines that the Lord has in His word. It is not about our work week,problems or other peoples problems.

And Crossnote made a funny about "what are you doing looking around." And there is a lot of truth in that. It is a personal relationship and what or how others worship is none of our business.

True Christian fellowship is not about being "nice" to the person who believes is loss of salvation,Jesus is not God and many others.........It is about discussing those doctrines and discerning for ourselves what is true. And It may get heated!

Paul and Peter were heated(Really it was more than just heated) at times.
Potluck is fellowshiping. Just sayin'!
 
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Hmmm.....maybe because people in a church family can choose to be there or not? They can choose who they fellowship with, and can actually fellowship like share a meal or something and talk? On the forum it's just straight info and text, not the ability to just enjoy someone's company and talk about godly and life stuff.
Pffft, then I'm cheating, because I really am enjoying the company. :D
 
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If we were all together, in person, singing praises, yes! A fight would break out, and I'd be the cause.

I'd be singing, more than one person would tell me to be quiet, shut up, stop that awful racket, and then others would run to my defense and say, "She's allowed to make a joyful noise." And then there would be a long debate on whether what I was doing was joyful, because it's bad enough that you can't tell. For instance, do cats yowl late at night joyfully or angrily, since I make a worse sound than that. And then there would be another argument on just that -- do cats yowl in anger? And then there would be an argument about cats in church, and then, and then, and then.

So honestly? Get me singing with other believers, and I can guarantee joyful doesn't last too long.

I sure hope God fixes voices in heaven. :rolleyes:
Yep, this is pretty much what Chris taught on this Sunday morning.... Sermons - St. Pete Vineyard
 
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Potluck is fellowshiping. Just sayin'!
I do agree. There can be fellowship at potlucks. But from my experience, they are just believers socializing.

Biblical fellowship is bible study or discussing doctrine. True fellowship actually is laying aside ourselves(Our problems and success) and being totally occupied with the Mind of Christ and His teachings.
 

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Potluck is fellowshiping. Just sayin'!
I do agree. There can be fellowship at potlucks. But from my experience, they are just believers socializing.

Biblical fellowship is bible study or discussing doctrine. True fellowship actually is laying aside ourselves(Our problems and success) and being totally occupied with the Mind of Christ and His teachings.
Romans 2:46-47

"Day by day continuing with one mind in the temple, and breaking bread from house to house, they were taking their meals together with gladness and sincerity of heart,
47 praising God and having favor with all the people. And the Lord was adding to their number day by day those who were being saved."
 

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So like what is your problem with doctrine?

Every word that Jesus spoke was doctrine.

Now traditions and other religious stuff is the creation of men so that's a different matter altogether. Just like worship to one person is different to another because of religious differences.

I would say that music prepares the heart to worship and preaching Gods word teaches the heart Who and how we worship.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
I have no problem with doctrine I just don't classify what Jesus taught as doctrine because as I said doctrine is a belief or religious view that needs to be debated to be understood fully It has to have some sort of flaw that requires it to be debated to be understood. Jesus taught one thing- God's heart but as you notice ppl began to start picking apart his teachings making different doctrines from the one teaching Jesus gave. If you have one book in the bible say mark many different doctrines can and will be made from that one book because we do not fully understand God's teaching and so we perceive it as a doctrine.

like I said there is nothing wrong with doctrine but Jesus did not teach a type of doctrine he taught the fathers heart and the fathers will I wouldn't call the fathers heart and will a doctrine
 
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I do agree. There can be fellowship at potlucks. But from my experience, they are just believers socializing.

Biblical fellowship is bible study or discussing doctrine. True fellowship actually is laying aside ourselves(Our problems and success) and being totally occupied with the Mind of Christ and His teachings.
How do you think the animals got on the ark and which animals were they?

Is it really okay to eat of anything? Like too much salt can be bad for you. So could sugar. Heaven help us all, if we ate poison ivy. (Well, I can, but only because I'm not allergic to it yet.)

What do you think of that Baptist church joining the PCA? Do you have problems with baptism?

These are the kinds of things we debated over the salad, red beans and rice, chicken and peppers, and "dirt." (Dirt, a type of chocolate dessert that looks a lot like what it's named. Yummy. lol) If you aren't fellowshipping while potlucking, you're missing something fun and wonderful. We weren't talking the Eagles or Flyers when we gathered. (Well, we were, but usually we were parting ways by that time. lol)
 
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Getting older is required. Growing up not so much ;)
Tell that to my dishes and my utility companies. They both demand attention, and I don't wanna grow up. lol