In the beginning...

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onwingsaseagles

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WhereToGo said:
It says he went to dwell in the land. Why would there be a land called Nod if no one lived there? Wouldn't he just go off into the wilderness and build a city then? By naming the place it seems to show there were inhabitants there.
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That is an assumption at best. There is no reason to rack your brain about where the people form Nod came from, when the bible never says there were people in Nod. The most likely scenario is that Adam named many of the near by regions around them whether there were inhabitants there or not.
 
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A plain reading of Scripture, as it was meant to be read on historical events leaves little to argue about.
Ultimately it comes down to Do you believe the opinion of God - who was there and does know everything - about history, or fallible man's opinion about events he himself wasn't alive to witness?
 
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Grey

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Honestly we could come up with a lot of questions and hypothesize and become dogmatic and somehow figure out where we fit in the dogmatic world by the time we are 32. One such question for example just out of Genesis 1:1 "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" Now are those two separate events there? Is it possible that it means, In the beginning God created the heavens and also in the beginning God created the earth.' And seeing as in the following verse 2 it continues "and the earth was formless and void," Could it be we have only the account of creation that being the creation of the earth and their was more God was doing that we don't yet see of creating the heavens? It doesn't matter what we can glean is the knowledge of God, "In the beginning God created..." God is creative, that is extremely fascinating if you are looking these treasures are everywhere in scripture and we can and must gain and seek the knowledge of God.

Also I believe it more useful to understand our current hour of history and what God wants to do here and now than to wonder and theorize over all the possibilities of the past.

That's not to shame you in any way, truly some brilliant and deeply interesting thoughts, but we are men of the present and God is still doing fascinating things in our personal lives and around us today.
 
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WhereToGo

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onwingsaseagles said:
That is an assumption at best. There is no reason to rack your brain about where the people form Nod came from, when the bible never says there were people in Nod. The most likely scenario is that Adam named many of the near by regions around them whether there were inhabitants there or not.
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True enough, I guess I can't assume because a land is named that it has inhabitants. Thanks for the input! :)
 
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oh and Nod by translation means vagrantcy
node
The same as H5112; vagrancy; Nod, the land of Cain: - Nod.
nôd nôd
node, node
From H5110; exile: - wandering.
nûd
nood
A primitive root; to nod, that is, waver; figuratively to wander, flee, disappear; also (from shaking the head in sympathy), to console, deplore, or (from tossing the head in scorn) taunt: - bemoan, flee, get, mourn, make to move, take pity, remove, shake, skip for joy, be sorry, vagabond, way, wandering.
 
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onwingsaseagles

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NoahsDad said:
Why not?When God in Isaiah sais plainly that the earth wasnt created Void but in Geneses it sais it Was void?
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I am going to have to go with SonOfAdam on this one, when reading Genesis there is no reason to believe anything except the earth was created void and without form, and then in the next 6 days He filled it with light, air the seas, plants, animals ect...
 
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WhereToGo

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Ok I can understand the reasoning about Nod just being an empty named land that Cain went to, but that raises another question in my mind. God placed a mark on Cain so no one would kill him when they met him, does this mean so that Adam and his family wouldn't kill him? Or "other" inhabitants of the earth he might run into?

I just don't quite think that if only Adam existed, God would have placed a mark on Cain. Seems like he would have just told Adam. I'm not set in stone on that, it just makes me think about it...
 
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onwingsaseagles

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WhereToGo said:
Ok I can understand the reasoning about Nod just being an empty named land that Cain went to, but that raises another question in my mind. God placed a mark on Cain so no one would kill him when they met him, does this mean so that Adam and his family wouldn't kill him? Or "other" inhabitants of the earth he might run into?

I just don't quite think that if only Adam existed, God would have placed a mark on Cain. Seems like he would have just told Adam. I'm not set in stone on that, it just makes me think about it...
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Adam and Eve could have had more children outside of Cain and Able at the time (that is where Cains wife would have come from ''she would have been his sister'') The inhabitants of the earth would have been Cain's brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces
 
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So, we all know how the Bible starts.....

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was without form, and void; and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. (NKJV; Genesis 1:1-2)

In my opinion, that verse right there let's us know that the earth was in fact here although the bible doesn't say anything about any other life forms. Do you guys think it would be possible for this time to be when the "cavemen" and dinosaurs were walking about on earth, even though there was no light? I guess it could be possible.

Just something to think about.......
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Cavemen is total nonsense because people didn't exist til day 6, and dinosaurs have always lived with man, but they were called dragons til the last 200 years when "dinosaur" was coined. The first living creatures didn't come til Day 5. It's also hard for creatures to live on planet earth without land or without plants, since meat wasn't eaten til after the flood. So to answer your question, it's not possible because the Word doesn't allow for it.
 
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nChrist

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Me thinking the Word is referr'n to the time right after satan's (and some of his' fellow angelic cohorts) fall. ...then the earth became void (and ugly) due to sin...then possibly the rebuild'n and the calling forth of land.....then the populating thereof....nChrist

P.S. thats jus' my opinion
 
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nChrist

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Oh....and concerning cavemen/women......I believe there were, jus' not in the time frame that science allots...I believe when society was diverse at the tower of babel, that some people did go and reside in caves...nChrist
 
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If Satan fell, things were not good or very good. I wish people would read the Genesis account the way it was written, interpreted in its context. God created the the earth, universe, etc in 6 literal 24 hour days approximately 6 thousand years ago. There were no millions or billions of years.
 
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Baptistrw

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onwingsaseagles said:
Adam and Eve could have had more children outside of Cain and Able at the time (that is where Cains wife would have come from ''she would have been his sister'') The inhabitants of the earth would have been Cain's brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces
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Here's a text to back up Adam & Eve's other children:

1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Genesis 5:1-5 (KJV)

It never says Cain found his wife in Nod. He went there in exile and dwelt there.
 
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onwingsaseagles said:
Adam and Eve could have had more children outside of Cain and Able at the time (that is where Cains wife would have come from ''she would have been his sister'') The inhabitants of the earth would have been Cain's brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces
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Baptistrw said:
Here's a text to back up Adam & Eve's other children:

1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him; 2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created. 3 And Adam lived an hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth: 4 And the days of Adam after he had begotten Seth were eight hundred years: and he begat sons and daughters: 5 And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died. Genesis 5:1-5 (KJV)

It never says Cain found his wife in Nod. He went there in exile and dwelt there.
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You are agreeing with me and do not even know it. You really should read the posts you are responding to before you respond and not just disagree because you are a pretribber and I a post.

I have stated in this thread that Cain did not meet his wife in Nod but took her with him there and that there were not people in Nod before they got there. The post you responded to, I was answering a question about who were the people that God had to seal Cain so they would not kill him. My responds ''his brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces''. In other words, just like you I do not believe in people outside of Adam's linage.
 
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Baptistrw

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onwingsaseagles said:
You are agreeing with me and do not even know it. You really should read the posts you are responding to before you respond and not just disagree because you are a pretribber and I a post.

I have stated in this thread that Cain did not meet his wife in Nod but took her with him there and that there were not people in Nod before they got there. The post you responded to, I was answering a question about who were the people that God had to seal Cain so they would not kill him. My responds ''his brothers, sisters, nephews, and nieces''. In other words, just like you I do not believe in people outside of Adam's linage.
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lol I was agreeing with you. I said what I said for the others who may read it, we're on the same page on this thing.
 
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WhereToGo

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Yeah that makes sense too. Over 800 years adam could have lots of kids who had other kids, etc. Thanks for that perspective. :)
 
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Do any of your Churches require belief in creationism and opposition to the theory of evolution to become a member?
 
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