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MadParrotWoman

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What the heck? Your new post says it was by DC not you AWC. I think we are now in "terminator" times everyone! Time to kill the computers :) shoot that's easy...just unplug them or remove the battery :) why didn't O'CONNOR think of that in the movie?
It was doing this last night - boy I was confused!
 
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EdisonTrent

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Why does it say I said this? I didn't post this comment you are refering too. That is the second time this happened. Wasn't me who said this about the gay thing. Stupid computers that make everything better grrr dumb Internet is dumb lol. :)
Lol I know Right, God works in mysterious ways :)
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Moving on from our indifference to God, what about our indifference to others? Our colleagues, family, even our brothers and sisters in Christ. In 1 John 4:8 we are told "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." I believe that indifference is the opposite to love, indifference can kill relationships, marriages and our relationship with God.
 
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oldthennew

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we must NOT EVER straddle the fence, BUT, we all do, at some point in our lives.
and this gives us, IF WE ARE HONEST, a mirror to look in.....
how many times have I said, 'Oh Lord, IF You could just give me a little more money, I could DO.,,,,,,,.?????

but,

it is written, 'you cannot serve God and mammon', so my DESIRE should be quenched, if it is NOT, then,
I have given myself OVER to the god of this world.

we Cannot be Partakers of the table of devil and the table of the Lord.'
we Cannot walk-down TWO PATHS, saying, I am walking down the straight and narrow.....and
the path of destruction at the same time.

this is the simplicity of Christ - either we walk in righteousness or we walk in sin!

we can ONLY serve ONE MASTER, for by whom a man is over-come, that is his master.
so,
may we let our True Master be The Master of Truth, Righteousness, and Goodness.
a child can understand but it takes someone very brave to walk in that lonesome valley by himself,
no matter the cost.
 
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elf3

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#85
Moving on from our indifference to God, what about our indifference to others? Our colleagues, family, even our brothers and sisters in Christ. In 1 John 4:8 we are told "Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love." I believe that indifference is the opposite to love, indifference can kill relationships, marriages and our relationship with God.
We can actually become so "comfortable" with someone, including God, that we can begin to be indifferent towards them. Kind of sad to think about.
 

Angela53510

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We can actually become so "comfortable" with someone, including God, that we can begin to be indifferent towards them. Kind of sad to think about.
I don't know about this. If we are walking in the Spirit, loving God and our fellow human beings, doing the will of God, how could we get comfortable and become indifferent to God?

Because then we wouldn't be doing any of those thing! Especially walking with Christ.

I just know that my walk is exciting, and always has been. God is quiet, sometimes, but that should never keep us from pressing towards Jesus, in our Bible reading, prayer, following the last instructions Jesus made to us, and serving our brothers and sisters, and reaching the world for Christ.

"I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." Phil. 3:14

If we are doing all that, then how could we become indifferent? My prayer is that everyone will seek God and will find the refreshing that comes from God.

"Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out, [SUP]20 [/SUP]that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, [SUP]21 [/SUP]whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago." Acts 3:19-21
 
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MadParrotWoman

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I don't know about this. If we are walking in the Spirit, loving God and our fellow human beings, doing the will of God, how could we get comfortable and become indifferent to God?

Because then we wouldn't be doing any of those thing! Especially walking with Christ.

I just know that my walk is exciting, and always has been. God is quiet, sometimes, but that should never keep us from pressing towards Jesus, in our Bible reading, prayer, following the last instructions Jesus made to us, and serving our brothers and sisters, and reaching the world for Christ.

"I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." Phil. 3:14

If we are doing all that, then how could we become indifferent? My prayer is that everyone will seek God and will find the refreshing that comes from God.

"Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out, [SUP]20 [/SUP]that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, [SUP]21 [/SUP]whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago." Acts 3:19-21
You are quite right Angela, unfortunately not all those who claim to be Christians walk the walk as you describe. Too many folks take God for granted. How often I see those who have never uttered the name "Jesus" suddenly talk of Heaven and angels when a love one is lost, I see it on facebook every day. God comes in real handy when we are grief-stricken.
 
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elf3

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I don't know about this. If we are walking in the Spirit, loving God and our fellow human beings, doing the will of God, how could we get comfortable and become indifferent to God?

Because then we wouldn't be doing any of those thing! Especially walking with Christ.

I just know that my walk is exciting, and always has been. God is quiet, sometimes, but that should never keep us from pressing towards Jesus, in our Bible reading, prayer, following the last instructions Jesus made to us, and serving our brothers and sisters, and reaching the world for Christ.

"I press on toward the goal for the prize of the upward call of God in Christ Jesus." Phil. 3:14

If we are doing all that, then how could we become indifferent? My prayer is that everyone will seek God and will find the refreshing that comes from God.

"Repent therefore, and turn back, that your sins may be blotted out, [SUP]20 [/SUP]that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord, and that he may send the Christ appointed for you, Jesus, [SUP]21 [/SUP]whom heaven must receive until the time for restoring all the things about which God spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets long ago." Acts 3:19-21
No I mean if we become stagnant in our walk with Christ. Though He holds us in His hands we can almost take Him for granted and indifference can creep in. Though God will draw us back if we are truly "in Him" we can allow this. It's like a double conundrum. We are His and He will never let us go but when we start to rely upon ourselves we can become indifferent. Now obviously this could not become a "full" indifference as nothing can pull us from His hands but because of sin it can creep in. Grrr I know what and how i wanna explain but difficult not in person. Lol sometimes my mind thinks way faster than my deformed hands can type :)
 

Angela53510

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No I mean if we become stagnant in our walk with Christ. Though He holds us in His hands we can almost take Him for granted and indifference can creep in. Though God will draw us back if we are truly "in Him" we can allow this. It's like a double conundrum. We are His and He will never let us go but when we start to rely upon ourselves we can become indifferent. Now obviously this could not become a "full" indifference as nothing can pull us from His hands but because of sin it can creep in. Grrr I know what and how i wanna explain but difficult not in person. Lol sometimes my mind thinks way faster than my deformed hands can type :)
But how can we become stagnant in our walk with God?

If we are following some simple, spiritual disciplines, like Bible reading, prayer, meditation on the Word and fellowship, then we should always have the support from God, the Scriptures and our brothers and sisters to walk with God.

Or maybe some get discouraged, because God doesn't answer their prayers the way people think they should? Or maybe they weren't planted on deep soil, and become caught up in the cares and worries of life?

Really, the parable of the sower is a good one for everyone to contemplate. I know I read it after I first got saved, and I prayed God would transplant me to good soil. (Being a gardener, I know this is possible!)

I think I went though most of the different kinds of soil at one time or another in my walk. But I kept praying for God to transplant me into good soil, and he did!

Maybe this parable should start everyone's prayers, who thinks they might be indifferent to God.

"That same day Jesus went out of the house and sat beside the sea. [SUP]2 [/SUP]And great crowds gathered about him, so that he got into a boat and sat down. And the whole crowd stood on the beach. [SUP]3 [/SUP]And he told them many things in parables, saying: “A sower went out to sow. [SUP]4 [/SUP]And as he sowed, some seeds fell along the path, and the birds came and devoured them. [SUP]5 [/SUP]Other seeds fell on rocky ground, where they did not have much soil, and immediately they sprang up, since they had no depth of soil, [SUP]6 [/SUP]but when the sun rose they were scorched. And since they had no root, they withered away. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Other seeds fell amongthorns, and the thorns grew up and choked them. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Other seeds fell on good soil and produced grain, some a hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty. [SUP]9 [/SUP]He who has ears, let him hear.” Matt 13:1-8

"Hear then the parable of the sower: [SUP]19 [/SUP]When anyone hears the word of the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what has been sown in his heart. This is what was sown along the path. [SUP]20 [/SUP]As for what was sown on rocky ground, this is the one who hears the word and immediately receives it with joy, [SUP]21 [/SUP]yet he has no root in himself, but endures for a while, and when tribulation or persecution arises on account of the word, immediately he falls away. [SUP]22 [/SUP]As for what was sown among thorns, this is the one who hears the word, but the cares of the world and the deceitfulness of riches choke the word, and it proves unfruitful. [SUP]23 [/SUP]As for what was sown on good soil, this is the one who hears the word and understands it. He indeed bears fruit and yields, in one case a hundredfold, in another sixty, and in another thirty.” Matt 13:18-23
 
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sydlit

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#90
We can actually become so "comfortable" with someone, including God, that we can begin to be indifferent towards them. Kind of sad to think about.
YES!!! Thank you, brother!!! Like a lightening bolt!!! Why did I not think of this myself before?! It's that "comfortableness", that leads to complacency, a taking for granted if you will, that can then breed indifference. It's not so much that I don 't love God, as it is I seem to have lost my ability to 'keep the fire, the fervency going'. It's almost like, 'what have you done for me lately', and boy do I really need to confess and repent of this sin. This is a serious flaw in my character that ruins my walk/relationship with Jesus, and I've got some heavy digging to do to root this out, because I look for sin to fill a perceived void, and I HATE this about myself. Thank you, brother, I pray God helps me learn and change from this. Humility and gratitude is what I need to have...shame on me that I don't have it in abundance. (note to self...WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU?!):(
 
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elf3

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We can actually become so "comfortable" with someone, including God, that we can begin to be indifferent towards them. Kind of sad to think about.
Ok so I was thinking about my comment here. I also read the replies from Angela and sydlit and realized I was wrong. Part of my comment it still true I believe but part is wrong. The part about becoming indifferent to God is false. It is not that we become comfortable with God and can become indifferent. We can become comfortable with God and begin to neglect God. This is why i had problems in my one reply trying to explain myself. So yes Angela you are correct we don't become indifferent to God but we can begin to neglect God. This is also what sydlit is talking about. We can become so comfortable with God that we can begin to neglect Him not become indifferent towards Him.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Ok so I was thinking about my comment here. I also read the replies from Angela and sydlit and realized I was wrong. Part of my comment it still true I believe but part is wrong. The part about becoming indifferent to God is false. It is not that we become comfortable with God and can become indifferent. We can become comfortable with God and begin to neglect God. This is why i had problems in my one reply trying to explain myself. So yes Angela you are correct we don't become indifferent to God but we can begin to neglect God. This is also what sydlit is talking about. We can become so comfortable with God that we can begin to neglect Him not become indifferent towards Him.
what a man admitting he is wrong????? No!!!!!!!! :p
 
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It's sad that the churches are full of virtually worthless people with no genuine faith but they look good sitting in Church on Sunday.
 

Magenta

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As it is written: "There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands; there is no one who seeks God. All have turned away, they have together become worthless; there is no one who does good, not even one."
 

Magenta

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"Why do you call me good?" Jesus answered. "No one is good--except God alone."
 
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sydlit

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what a man admitting he is wrong????? No!!!!!!!! :p
Yes, I admit I've been wrong in sometimes being indifferent towards God, or not being 'fully sold out', I've spent so much time apologizing in my life that I'm sometimes apologizing for things I'm not even sure I've done. I've even apologized for being born, and yet I couldn't control that, only sorry that since being born I couldn't find a way to be a good person or accepted by society. Maybe the ridicule is warranted, but I've tried, and I can't recall when anyone's apologized to me, either, even when they've lied and falsely accused. They just move on as if nothing happened, and for some reason they're more accepted than I am. Maybe some of my indifference toward God is a reflection of some of His ppl's indifference towards me. I'm not saying that's right, just that sometimes we learn from what we experience, and those experiences sometimes cloud out what God says. I realize you're only kidding here, and you're a good person, as evidenced by your loving care of God's feathered ones, so my comment is just in general, not aimed at you.:) (btw...Norwegian Blue...Lovely plumage) Sorry. .....M.P. fan. ..... Couldn't resist. SOORRRRRRyyyyyyy.:)
 
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elf3

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We can actually become so "comfortable" with someone, including God, that we can begin to be indifferent towards them. Kind of sad to think about.
Ok so I think I might have created some confusion with this wrong comment here. There is a huge difference between "neglecting Gid" and being "indifferent to God". We are obviously not indifferent to God but unfortunately we do neglect God sometimes. Since we are saved by His blood we can no longer be indifferent too Him. We cannot be indifferent because we now know God. We can become so comfortable in God that we can begin to neglect Him. We can stop study or church thinking that since God has us in His hands we don't need to do all that. In fact the opposite is true...we need that even more now because forces against us will try and stop us. So yep Angela was right :) I don't know where my mind was when I wrote that lol.
 
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MadParrotWoman

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Ok so I think I might have created some confusion with this wrong comment here. There is a huge difference between "neglecting Gid" and being "indifferent to God". We are obviously not indifferent to God but unfortunately we do neglect God sometimes. Since we are saved by His blood we can no longer be indifferent too Him. We cannot be indifferent because we now know God. We can become so comfortable in God that we can begin to neglect Him. We can stop study or church thinking that since God has us in His hands we don't need to do all that. In fact the opposite is true...we need that even more now because forces against us will try and stop us. So yep Angela was right :) I don't know where my mind was when I wrote that lol.
Elf, you are only looking at Christians. Before I came to Christ I was most definitely indifferent to Him. I didn't consider Him nor did I seek Him. I sat on the fence for so long I got splinters lol. Most of the population in Britain - I'm talking those of Anglo-Saxon origin (not Muslim or other) do not consider God. I have heard folks say "I believe there is something out there" or "I believe there is a supreme being" but they are so indifferent to the possibility of God that they die in an agnostic state...it almost happened to me. That is the definition of indifference to God.
 
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elf3

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what a man admitting he is wrong????? No!!!!!!!! :p
Yes I am a man and I did admit I was wrong. Now I know it doesn't happen often with me but I will admit when I am wrong. It was just one of those very rare occasions when I was wrong lol JK JK