Is a capital H for Him really necessary when talking about God?

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phil36

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If its out of respect to God, then why don't we use a capital S every time we say God Said something, for example.

We criticise the messianic jews for typing G-d, but I think we're just as superstitious. Maybe I'm wrong.

If you Type "God 'said'" Then it is obvious who was doing the talking hence no need for a capital 'S'

Messianic Jews type G-d, and there is no problem with that either they are being respectful also, and if you read Matthew this is the same very reason why he mainly uses 'Kingdom of Heaven'.

Its just personal respect for who we are talking about, also it clarifies exactly who we are talking about. If someone doesnt do it there is no problem with that either.

Phil
 
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machew

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If you Type "God 'said'" Then it is obvious who was doing the talking hence no need for a capital 'S'

Messianic Jews type G-d, and there is no problem with that either they are being respectful also, and if you read Matthew this is the same very reason why he mainly uses 'Kingdom of Heaven'.

Its just personal respect for who we are talking about, also it clarifies exactly who we are talking about. If someone doesnt do it there is no problem with that either.

Phil
Yep it is not necessary and I feel no obligation to, but it is something that I prefer to do. If this is something that makes you feel defensive(not necessarily addressing Phil, but all on here), it may indicate that aspects of your relationship with God are grounded in fear. God wants to go deeper than that in a relationship where Love casts out all fear. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom, but there are much deeper levels of wisdom that can be found beyond that through intimacy with Him.
 

phil36

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Yep it is not necessary and I feel no obligation to, but it is something that I prefer to do. If this is something that makes you feel defensive(not necessarily addressing Phil, but all on here), it may indicate that aspects of your relationship with God are grounded in fear. God wants to go deeper than that in a relationship where Love casts out all fear. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom, but there are much deeper levels of wisdom that can be found beyond that through intimacy with Him.

If you had read my earlier posts and most on here we all use capitals' regarding God!

I don't think anyone is defensive about this, its just something we do and not out of fear as you seem to think machew but from a respectful reverence,

I would presume you have written this out of a misunderstanding of why people do it/ or don't. for you have went of ina tangent about fear and relationships?

In Love

Phil
 
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machew

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If you had read my earlier posts and most on here we all use capitals' regarding God!

I don't think anyone is defensive about this, its just something we do and not out of fear as you seem to think machew but from a respectful reverence,

I would presume you have written this out of a misunderstanding of why people do it/ or don't. for you have went of ina tangent about fear and relationships?

In Love

Phil
Phil & everyone, I apologize for not going through the whole thread and being presumptuous.

Much Love,

Matthew
 
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mcubed

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If its out of respect to God, then why don't we use a capital S every time we say God Said something, for example.

We criticise the messianic jews for typing G-d, but I think we're just as superstitious. Maybe I'm wrong.

No I do not think your wrong. I do not think G-d gets angry if we use vowels in His name. I type Yeshua when I should type Y'shua. The "superstition" is that someone will come along and deface His name in some way so it is not written with vowels. To be honest it is both respect and habit for me. This is one of those things that..... it is what it is.... G-d doesn't really care I think it's kind of a pharisee issue (putting a yoke on people that He didn't).... D-d did not say to write His mane without vowels in the Torah so I will keep doing it out of respect and habit and not get any Brownie-points with Him or loose any either way I write His name ( or his name...lol)
 
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No for you PHil the PH must be capitalized. All joking aside. Big G is for God, little g is for false gods, this is not superstition this is how I read it. I've tried to stop saying HIM and identify HIM by name... why shouldnt we exhault the name of the Lord instead of "Him"... say Jesus! my confidence is in Him. My confidence is in Christ. same statement but different dontchya think. I'm very very pickie about caps for God... Look what he did for US shift G & Shift J and Shift H really is not a problem for me. Hold the Lord our God in reverence. He truly is deserving of all that the shift key causes us to endure in Christs' holy name. Just my opinion. & kaycee, you really have to find forgiveness for this... I know its tough, just ask the Lord to assist. The Lord saw me to forgivenss & Jesus willl do the same for you.
 
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giantone

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My former pastor used to be an editor for a living, If I remember right, it is the proper thing to capitalize God and words pertaining to Him. (the other gods get a small g.)

The word Lord in the Bible has one spelled with a capital L and the other with a small one, both have different meanings as well, even though they both pertain to God.
 

pickles

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When you consider how children write, and then remember what Jesus said about being like children to enter heaven.
I think God Our Father is pleased just to know we speak and write about him.
God bless, pickles
 
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It isn't necessary, but I do it out of respect and my love for Him. Jesus, God, The Holy Spirit, Him...just my thing hehe. On the other hand, I never give satan a capital.
 
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I think a better question is, why not? :)
 

QuestionTime

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Yep it is not necessary and I feel no obligation to, but it is something that I prefer to do. If this is something that makes you feel defensive(not necessarily addressing Phil, but all on here), it may indicate that aspects of your relationship with God are grounded in fear. God wants to go deeper than that in a relationship where Love casts out all fear. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of all wisdom, but there are much deeper levels of wisdom that can be found beyond that through intimacy with Him.

This is a very wise analysis Machew. Indeed, it could be legalism that we are practicing. We ought to analyze our hearts to see our motivations for doing this.

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Love casts out fear but this does not invalidate that it is necessary to hold God in reverence and not have a casual attitude toward him like a good buddy.
 
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it is necessary to hold God in reverence and not have a casual attitude toward him like a good buddy.
What you said was true, but this last part bothers me a bit. Being our "good buddy" is just another one of the many facets of God's character. He IS our closest and best friend.
 

QuestionTime

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If you are concerned with the H, then what about the difference between Lord and LORD. At least some bibles use those to distinguish between Adonai and YHVH. Most Christians do not even know or care about that, but it is the equivalent to calling the president or a general Mr. ____. If the scriptures distinguish between the names, should we?
 
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Haa Haa. you did crack me up.

Rogue, yes you are right about him being our greatest friend, but he is to be worshiped and revered as well. I think too many have a flippant and casual attitude about the Lord. When I think about his greatness it overwhelms me and to see is face, I dont think I could look upon it, I will fall to his feet and praise him and thank him for his wonderous Love. He is my heavenly Father but I could never call him papa or daddy. Cant really explain how I feel about the Lord its something beyond words.
 

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Haa Haa. you did crack me up.

Rogue, yes you are right about him being our greatest friend, but he is to be worshiped and revered as well. I think too many have a flippant and casual attitude about the Lord. When I think about his greatness it overwhelms me and to see is face, I dont think I could look upon it, I will fall to his feet and praise him and thank him for his wonderous Love. He is my heavenly Father but I could never call him papa or daddy. Cant really explain how I feel about the Lord its something beyond words.
When I come into His presence, I am always overwhelmed by His majesty, holiness, perfection, and love. I have no trouble, now that my hand is working somewhat, typing His Name in caps.
 
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VW, we all know your situation & I never gave your posts a second glance cause I was just thankful that though your posts were noticably shortened at first (that must have been frusterating) anyway I was thankful you were still posting. So thankful that you are healing!
 

pickles

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Although I think God Our Father knows our worship and love in any word we give unto him. I see the respect in writting being not just our reverance but a witness to others of his greatness.
God bless, pickles