Is abortion murder?

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didymos

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DarkVoid said:
well it was a thread on abortion...its not like i said something completely off topic -.-

i was not "doubting" anyones "willingless" ... i just saw something about your beliefs that did not make sense to me...
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It wasn't completely off topic, it just wasn't an asnwer to the question being discussed. You're first post already had a preconceived perception about how christians think of human life in it. It was more of a statement than a question. If something doesn't make sense to you, and you REALLY want to learn stuff, you could try to word a question in a way that isn't offensive to most of the people here. You don't want people to think you're a troll, now, do you? ;)
 
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Abiding

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DarkVoid said:
um no, in hell people actually get hurt...a lot.
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Nope actually hell is described as being forever out of Gods presense which
would also mean outside any of His mercies and graces. Not sure it says they get hurt.
But see you got them out of you hair because they didnt care for you and you didnt
want their constant mistrust and making you jump their hoops. So now your a tyrant, and didnt even mean to be. right?
 
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didymos said:

It wasn't completely off topic, it just wasn't an asnwer to the question being discussed. You're first post already had a preconceived perception about how christians think of human life in it. It was more of a statement than a question. If something doesn't make sense to you, and you REALLY want to learn stuff, you could try to word a question in a way that isn't offensive to most of the people here. You don't want people to think you're a troll, now, do you? ;)
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ever been 19?
 
DarkVoid

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didymos said:

It wasn't completely off topic, it just wasn't an asnwer to the question being discussed. You're first post already had a preconceived perception about how christians think of human life in it. It was more of a statement than a question. If something doesn't make sense to you, and you REALLY want to learn stuff, you could try to word a question in a way that isn't offensive to most of the people here. You don't want people to think you're a troll, now, do you? ;)
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well thats just it. i don't care what people think about me lol

wasn't trying to be offensive, i just could not really make the points i wanted to by wording it any other way than i did.
 
DarkVoid

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Abiding said:
Nope actually hell is described as being forever out of Gods presense which
would also mean outside any of His mercies and graces. Not sure it says they get hurt.
But see you got them out of you hair because they didnt care for you and you didnt
want their constant mistrust and making you jump their hoops. So now your a tyrant, and didnt even mean to be. right?
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wait, so if you don't get hurt in hell then what is so bad about it? lol
 
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Abiding

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So where were we....oh ya you sent them all to hell.
hmmm
 
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wait, so if you don't get hurt in hell then what is so bad about it? lol
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when i was young i gave that alot of thought what it would mean to not have His presence
 
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Abiding

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i figured id have to can His attributes and stuff like joy love peace longsufferring
gentleness goodness meekness ...stuff like that
 
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Abiding

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think on that it can be hard to imagine the absence of His person.
forever.

But then we didnt want Him anyway right?
 
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Abiding

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we just wanted Him to change our airfresheners
 
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didymos

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DarkVoid said:
well thats just it. i don't care what people think about me lol

wasn't trying to be offensive, i just could not really make the points i wanted to by wording it any other way than i did.
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With the urge to make a point comes the responsibilty to word it in a way that isn't offensive, at least here. You don't always HAVE to speak out, sometimes it's better just to listen.
 
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Abiding

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Now in a fallen form which is a far cry for how good it will be
you still have the residue of His likeness and image, certain
aspects of peace and intermitten joy or happyness etc
if you dwelt on it youd see it wont be any fun not
having His presence at all whatsover right now
He is still sustaining you.
 
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Abiding

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Ya we all could listen more and speak out less:p
 
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didymos said:
With the urge to make a point comes the responsibilty to word it in a way that isn't offensive, at least here. You don't always HAVE to speak out, sometimes it's better just to listen.
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well i usually DON'T post in the forum, i usually read and don't post. so i decided to actually post once in awhile...guess that was a mistake -.-
 
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Abiding said:
Now in a fallen form which is a far cry for how good it will be
you still have the residue of His likeness and image, certain
aspects of peace and intermitten joy or happyness etc
if you dwelt on it youd see it wont be any fun not
having His presence at all whatsover right now
He is still sustaining you.
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i should be able to generate my own happiness, peace, etc.

instead he forces me to rely on him? again that sounds tyrannical.
 
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didymos

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well i usually DON'T post in the forum, i usually read and don't post. so i decided to actually post once in awhile...guess that was a mistake -.-
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In itself no. Just know that what you post is read too.
 
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Abiding

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DarkVoid said:
i should be able to generate my own happiness, peace, etc.

instead he forces me to rely on him? again that sounds tyrannical.
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If you were divine yes but your created and all creation needs to be
generated by the creator, all of us are dependants.
 
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If you were divine yes but your created and all creation needs to be
generated by the creator, all of us are dependants.
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if he is all powerful shudn't he be able to do anything? including create people who don't need to rely on him?
 
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