Is Catholicism the Oldest Christian Faith?

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Jackson123

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He thinks the poor will benefit . I don't agree with Him. What's that prove?
Rev 13 talk about one world government. That is antichrist government, lucifer government, and pope work for lucifer to prepare it.
 
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Inspired remembrance?

The Sacred Tradition as a oral tradition of sinful meny is the private interpretation of faithless fathers. . . that calls all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) heresy .

God brings to our mind the things he has taught us . he warns of men who claim to be devine source of faith.

John14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

Attributing the things that belong to our unseen Holy Father to corruptible sinners on earth is simply faithless blasphemy.

You simply as a law of your fathers must follow another written authority that makes all thing written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) without effect. Even listing first in their private interpretation things that come from their own mouth making the word of God without effect .

No man can serve two teaching masters both the flesh of mankind and the unseen Holy Spirt of our one Father.

The Catholic book of their law ....# 80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".

Sola scriptura lovingly commands us to seek the approval of our one Father in heaven. It is made to no effect by those who must seek the approval of man
How far back does your memory go? Jesus instituted a ritual for remembrance. "Do this in remembrance of me" That ritual in remembrance continues. It's Sacred because Jesus instituted it and it's been done faithfully. So what memory would have the universal character and content that the Holy Spirit would be drawing from that re-minds the Church and is able to lead to All Truth? Sacred Tradition. Sacred Scripture is like the textbook for keeping orthodox and teaching. The bible isn't like memory it's like a photo album with baby pics.
 
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Rev 13 talk about one world government. That is antichrist government, lucifer government, and pope work for lucifer to prepare it.
Have you noticed how God let the Canaanites build the houses and towns that the Hebrews would settle in?
God let's the wicked build and in perfect time He overthrows it and gives it to His people to use.
I'm not sure what Pope Francis is up to I think it's open borders, but I believe that's what happening with a global government. Yeah it's built for evil but like any tool it can just as easily be for the good.
 

Jackson123

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Have you noticed how God let the Canaanites build the houses and towns that the Hebrews would settle in?
God let's the wicked build and in perfect time He overthrows it and gives it to His people to use.
I'm not sure what Pope Francis is up to I think it's open borders, but I believe that's what happening with a global government. Yeah it's built for evil but like any tool it can just as easily be for the good.
Lucifer will behind antichrist to build global government. Pope work for lucifer. That is what catholic do, work for lucifer.
Rev 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Make war with saints....... must be Satan

Power to all ........nation, must be one world government

And Pope work, promote for that, you believe for the poor benefit?

That is not for the poor, it is to war against saints and to enforce the mark of the beast.
When communist come to china, they tell every body it is for the good of all, they invite every pastor bribe them to tell their member how good communist will be, after they in power, they kill a lot of Christian. That is the global government will be. It is in rev 13 and Pope work for it, not only this pope it is every pope, it is catholic agenda to support lucifer government
Wake up my brother, don't let lucifer lie to you.
 
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Lucifer will behind antichrist to build global government. Pope work for lucifer. That is what catholic do, work for lucifer.
Rev 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Make war with saints....... must be Satan

Power to all ........nation, must be one world government

And Pope work, promote for that, you believe for the poor benefit?

That is not for the poor, it is to war against saints and to enforce the mark of the beast.
When communist come to china, they tell every body it is for the good of all, they invite every pastor bribe them to tell their member how good communist will be, after they in power, they kill a lot of Christian. That is the global government will be. It is in rev 13 and Pope work for it, not only this pope it is every pope, it is catholic agenda to support lucifer government
Wake up my brother, don't let lucifer lie to you.
What will you do if antichrist comes and targets the Catholic Church? Will you see Christ destroying the works of antichrist? Will your hate for the Catholic Church have more power than your love for truth? Will hate be satisfied by choosing to accept antichrist? Therein lies the strong delusion and the test of love for truth.
 
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Lucifer will behind antichrist to build global government. Pope work for lucifer. That is what catholic do, work for lucifer.
Rev 13
7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

Make war with saints....... must be Satan

Power to all ........nation, must be one world government

And Pope work, promote for that, you believe for the poor benefit?

That is not for the poor, it is to war against saints and to enforce the mark of the beast.
When communist come to china, they tell every body it is for the good of all, they invite every pastor bribe them to tell their member how good communist will be, after they in power, they kill a lot of Christian. That is the global government will be. It is in rev 13 and Pope work for it, not only this pope it is every pope, it is catholic agenda to support lucifer government
Wake up my brother, don't let lucifer lie to you.
if you understood my post you would know I see that as likely and God's purpose for allowing it.
 

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What will you do if antichrist comes and targets the Catholic Church? Will you see Christ destroying the works of antichrist? Will your hate for the Catholic Church have more power than your love for truth? Will hate be satisfied by choosing to accept antichrist? Therein lies the strong delusion and the test of love for truth.
If He does not return the same way that Christ departed, I will know it’s not Jesus.

Jesus will descend from heaven And all eyes will see Him.
 
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If He does not return the same way that Christ departed, I will know it’s not Jesus.

Jesus will descend from heaven And all eyes will see Him.
Good then. You won't be deceived even if the antichrist targets the Catholic Church.(y)
 

OIC1965

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Good then. You won't be deceived even if the antichrist targets the Catholic Church.(y)
He will also target Evangelical churches. In fact, the spirit of antichrist was attacking evangelical believing Christians two thousand years ago

An antichrist is someone who denies the true humanity of Jesus or denies that He is the Christ.
 

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He will also target Evangelical churches. In fact, the spirit of antichrist was attacking evangelical believing Christians two thousand years ago

An antichrist is someone who denies the true humanity of Jesus or denies that He is the Christ.
also, I think when the man of sin appears, the majority of Catholics and Evangelicals will receive him with open arms. The ones who profess to know Christ, but have not been born of God.

Nominal Christianity is like a frog placed in a pan of cool water that is then slowly heated up to boil. Slowly indoctrinated by gradual denials of the truth, endless compromises with the philosophies of the world, so as to be primed for the great deception.

Only those who are or will be born of God will escape and be saved.
 

Jackson123

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What will you do if antichrist comes and targets the Catholic Church? Will you see Christ destroying the works of antichrist? Will your hate for the Catholic Church have more power than your love for truth? Will hate be satisfied by choosing to accept antichrist? Therein lies the strong delusion and the test of love for truth.
Antichrist is pope, I don't think he will attract catholic.

I am not hate catholic, I love them so I warn them to left catholic and come to Jesus.
 
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Antichrist is pope, I don't think he will attract catholic.

I am not hate catholic, I love them so I warn them to left catholic and come to Jesus.
You do hate the Catholic Church though. I know you love the Catholic person. I believe that.

You can't imagine that happening huh Jackson.
 

Jackson123

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You do hate the Catholic Church though. I know you love the Catholic person. I believe that.

You can't imagine that happening huh Jackson.
I believe catholic teaching is from lucifer, and I love catholic person so that I tell them not to believe anything but Jesus teaching in the Bible.
Don't believe another gospel, think what happen in the history of catholic, manipulating doctrine purgatory for money, killing Christian and Jews, etc, that must be lucifer doctrine
 

Jackson123

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You can't imagine that happening huh Jackson.
Can you imagine what happen when a person take another way?

Imagine only one way from Portland Oregon to New York.
Let say all other way are close, only A east and west
You must take A west but you take A east

Imagine what happen

You never arrive at New York.

Jesus is the only way

That mean Jesus teaching is the only way

You take pope teaching

Imagine what happen

You never arrive to the Father

Your choice wich way

Jesus give simple map/direction, and that is bible
There are 2 characteristic if the law is from God

That are Love your God and love your neighbor
Killing, lie is from the devil
Learn catholic history , devil finger print all over.


Devil give false map.
 

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I have huge problems with RCC distinctives but there are two folks arguing against Rome. One has at best suspect Trinitarian theology and the other is promoting insane and easily debunked conspiracy nonsense. Bendaman might be in error but he’s verifiably Christian by any historical means.
 

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Antichrist is pope, I don't think he will attract catholic.
For anyone to be the Antichrist, he would have to actually rule the world for 3 1/2 years (42 months). See Revelation 13. So the pope is definitely not the Antichrist. Just another false teacher.
 

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Yes it makes sense. Are you assuming God does not have faith?. The faith of Christ worked in Abel . Cain refused to believe it.
It is the oldest Christian religion. That does not make it Christian.
 
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It is the oldest Christian religion. That does not make it Christian.
Its an extension of the Pharisees with Sadaucesss Both serve a law of the fathers oral traditions of men making the word of God without effect.
 
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For anyone to be the Antichrist, he would have to actually rule the world for 3 1/2 years (42 months). See Revelation 13. So the pope is definitely not the Antichrist. Just another false teacher.
The antichrist is the god of this world. Satan the father of lies. The man of sin using mankind to spread his lies.. He began ruling all the kingdoms in the garden when the glory of God departed and corruption began .

He tried to offer all the kingdoms of this world to Jesus. The apostle Jesus would not buy it .The father gave Jesus the words to rebuke the father of lies. . . as it is written three times and he fled. The word it representing the eternal faith of God.

On the last day the kingdoms of this world will become the kingdoms of God in the new order.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
 

Jackson123

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For anyone to be the Antichrist, he would have to actually rule the world for 3 1/2 years (42 months). See Revelation 13. So the pope is definitely not the Antichrist. Just another false teacher.
How do you know he Will not rule the world?

Also antichrist not always rule the world, there are many antichrist.
1 John 2:18
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
I have huge problems with RCC distinctives but there are two folks arguing against Rome. One has at best suspect Trinitarian theology and the other is promoting insane and easily debunked conspiracy nonsense. Bendaman might be in error but he’s verifiably Christian by any historical means.
How you prove the consprracy I told you chick ask 3 x to canadian catholic church that accused Alberto make check that was No money. Chick ask what bank to make further investigation but No answer
Chick call canadian police If there was record and none
So you believe the Lie or you prove what bank and I Will call the bank to verifikasi or you chose to believe in Lie.
Pope promote one world government is prove he work for Lucifer