Is Catholicism the Oldest Christian Faith?
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There is only one Lord of lords and King of kings not seen our Holy Father in heaven .Not a legion of fathers on earth that lord it over the non venerable pew sitters
The first century reformation came according to all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) restoring the government of God. Kings in Israel, the abomination of desolation came to end . Catholiscim made the same error a law of the father men seen. Catholics walk by sight not by the one faith that comes from hearing our unseen Holy Father in heaven.
Hebrews 9:9-11 King James Version (KJV) Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
The first century reformation came according to all things written in the law and prophets (sola scriptura) restoring the government of God. Kings in Israel, the abomination of desolation came to end . Catholiscim made the same error a law of the father men seen. Catholics walk by sight not by the one faith that comes from hearing our unseen Holy Father in heaven.
Hebrews 9:9-11 King James Version (KJV) Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
Really? I corrected your false understanding of my post too many times to believe you. To purposely distort the meaning of another person's words to make them fit a logical fallacy is cowardly and evil. I would think it reportable. If this was my site I would not want members to suffer that behavior. If you wish to be a Christian you need to cultivate a love for Truth and a habit of honesty.
Pope claim to be God
1.Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote: “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c. 3)
2. The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said: “Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth.” (Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)
http://www.geoffhorton.com/PapalClaims.html
1.Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) wrote: “We may according to the fullness of our power, dispose of the law and dispense above the law. Those whom the Pope of Rome doth separate, it is not a man that separates them but God. For the Pope holdeth place on earth, not simply of a man but of the true God.” (1 Book of Gregory 9 Decret. c. 3)
2. The Lateran Council addressing Pope Julius II in an oration delivered by Marcellus said: “Take care that we lose not that salvation, that life and breath which thou hast given us, for thou art our shepherd, thou art our physician, thou art our governor, thou art our husbandman, thou art finally another God on earth.” (Council Edition. Colm. Agrip. 1618)
http://www.geoffhorton.com/PapalClaims.html
Antichrist Also Mean instead of
Definition of instead of
Definition of instead of
: in place of : as a substitute for or alternative to
chose tea instead of coffee
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Let me make paralel sentence
Chose pope instead of Christ.
Definition of instead of
Definition of instead of
: in place of : as a substitute for or alternative to
chose tea instead of coffee
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Let me make paralel sentence
Chose pope instead of Christ.
That was one of the attempts to correct your false understanding.
It started with me saying we're called to be Christ's in our world.
You turned that into me saying something stupid by saying that would be too many God's if all humans are God. You turned something most Christians would easily understand as a form of witness into something ridiculous like human nature changing into divine nature. You dumb down what I mean for a reason. I get it. Nuff said.
It started with me saying we're called to be Christ's in our world.
You turned that into me saying something stupid by saying that would be too many God's if all humans are God. You turned something most Christians would easily understand as a form of witness into something ridiculous like human nature changing into divine nature. You dumb down what I mean for a reason. I get it. Nuff said.
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Glorying in the flesh of corrupted mankind is not a biblical doctrine. 1 Corinthians lovingly commands us no flesh should glory in his unseen presence.
Our blessed sister in the Lord Mary was called blessed as all believers are. Out of all the sinners in the world he has blessed us with the fullness of His grace by which we are born again .
Catholisicim like that of the Pharisees has simply usurped the unseen authority of our Holy father, Holy See in heaven and gave it to a legion of fathers as a law of the fathers (sacred oral tradition of sinners)
The law of our Holy Father in heaven does not direct us to venerate the flesh of mankind. That is a law of the fathers, kings and princes. It represents the pagan form of government. Men lording it over the faith of the non venerable pew sitters . The bible calls that the abomination of desolation .Which in mankind standing in the holy unseen place of the faith of Christ our unseen teacher who warn us of those who say we need a man to teach us. (1 john 2:27-28)
They hear the words of sola scriptura all thing written in the law and prophets. But must adhere to a law of men as written in Jerimiah below. Same queen of heaven with a new new name Mary . Same law of the fathers a carbon copy from the Pharisees with Sadaucesss .Just different fathers.
Jerimiah under the inspiration of our one Holy Father in heaven informs us below of that usurping blasphemous work .
Jerimiah 44:16-17 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.
But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
It is simply impossible to serve two teaching Masters. The laws of our heavenly Holy Father not seen and sinful men seen . What they call Sacred Tradition ( faithless)our Holy Father in heaven calls an abomination of desolation. making sola scriptura without effect.
A choice must be made. The book of the law of the fathers (CCC) called by the fathers, kings and princes (men seen) Sacred oral Traditions of sinners. Or the Devine scriptures, (sola scriptura) the law of our one unseen Holy Father in heaven ? Which one today? Devine men or Devine God?
80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".41
Our blessed sister in the Lord Mary was called blessed as all believers are. Out of all the sinners in the world he has blessed us with the fullness of His grace by which we are born again .
Catholisicim like that of the Pharisees has simply usurped the unseen authority of our Holy father, Holy See in heaven and gave it to a legion of fathers as a law of the fathers (sacred oral tradition of sinners)
The law of our Holy Father in heaven does not direct us to venerate the flesh of mankind. That is a law of the fathers, kings and princes. It represents the pagan form of government. Men lording it over the faith of the non venerable pew sitters . The bible calls that the abomination of desolation .Which in mankind standing in the holy unseen place of the faith of Christ our unseen teacher who warn us of those who say we need a man to teach us. (1 john 2:27-28)
They hear the words of sola scriptura all thing written in the law and prophets. But must adhere to a law of men as written in Jerimiah below. Same queen of heaven with a new new name Mary . Same law of the fathers a carbon copy from the Pharisees with Sadaucesss .Just different fathers.
Jerimiah under the inspiration of our one Holy Father in heaven informs us below of that usurping blasphemous work .
Jerimiah 44:16-17 As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the Lord, we will not hearken unto thee.
But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.
It is simply impossible to serve two teaching Masters. The laws of our heavenly Holy Father not seen and sinful men seen . What they call Sacred Tradition ( faithless)our Holy Father in heaven calls an abomination of desolation. making sola scriptura without effect.
A choice must be made. The book of the law of the fathers (CCC) called by the fathers, kings and princes (men seen) Sacred oral Traditions of sinners. Or the Devine scriptures, (sola scriptura) the law of our one unseen Holy Father in heaven ? Which one today? Devine men or Devine God?
80 "Sacred Tradition and Sacred Scripture, then, are bound closely together, and communicate one with the other. For both of them, flowing out from the same divine well-spring, come together in some fashion to form one thing, and move towards the same goal."40 Each of them makes present and fruitful in the Church the mystery of Christ, who promised to remain with his own "always, to the close of the age".41
Thank for your correction,
But you know what is the definition of "instead of " don't you?
Antichrist also mean instead of Christ.
Some pope declare themselve as God oN earth
How many God Will be If every pope think himself as God.
Antichrist = instead of Christ
Pope claim as God oN earth
So pope is antichrist.
But you know what is the definition of "instead of " don't you?
Antichrist also mean instead of Christ.
Some pope declare themselve as God oN earth
How many God Will be If every pope think himself as God.
Antichrist = instead of Christ
Pope claim as God oN earth
So pope is antichrist.
The apostle Jesus as the Son of man spoke the inspired word of the unseen father as do all apostles. He did not do the will of his own flesh which he informs us profits for zero.
It was the kind of food or power to do the will of our unseen Holy Father the apostles at first did not know of. He finished the work of our Holy father not seen.
John 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Jesus in his earthen body of death dared not stand in the Holy unseen place of faith as the one Lord and Master. (abomination of desolation) He was taught submission just as us.
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Jesus gave glory to the unseen Holy Father the one Lord and Master. . Called walking by a faith, a faith that works in us to both will and empower us to do the good pleasure of our unseen God and Father.
Job says it clearly . God is not a man and neither is there a fleshly infallible teacher that stands between man seen and God not seen, as a umpire or Pope, called a daysman.
We walk by the unseen eternal . . not after the the temporal corrupted flesh of mankind.
Job 9:32-33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.
It was the kind of food or power to do the will of our unseen Holy Father the apostles at first did not know of. He finished the work of our Holy father not seen.
John 4:34 Jesus saith unto them, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me, and to finish his work.
Jesus in his earthen body of death dared not stand in the Holy unseen place of faith as the one Lord and Master. (abomination of desolation) He was taught submission just as us.
2 Corinthians 4:7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
Jesus gave glory to the unseen Holy Father the one Lord and Master. . Called walking by a faith, a faith that works in us to both will and empower us to do the good pleasure of our unseen God and Father.
Job says it clearly . God is not a man and neither is there a fleshly infallible teacher that stands between man seen and God not seen, as a umpire or Pope, called a daysman.
We walk by the unseen eternal . . not after the the temporal corrupted flesh of mankind.
Job 9:32-33 For he is not a man, as I am, that I should answer him, and we should come together in judgment. Neither is there any daysman betwixt us, that might lay his hand upon us both.
This is what happens when you home brew your own religion. You wind up rolling and smoking your own theology. Rome has an insufficient understanding of the atonement. You have an insufficient savior. In fact, your Jesus is unable to save.
1. John 10:30 The Father and I are one.
2. Philippians 2:5-6 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
3. John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
4. John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
5. Colossians 2:9-10 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.
6. John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
7. John 5:18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
8. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
9. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
10. 1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
11. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
12. Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
13. John 8:57-58 The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”
14. John 8:22-24 This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?” But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
15. John 13:18-19 “I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill this passage of Scripture: ‘He who shared my bread has turned against me.’ “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.
16. Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
17. 1 Corinthians 8:6 Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
18. Revelation 2:8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.
19. Revelation 1:17-18 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.
20. Matthew 2:1-2 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”
21 Matthew 28:8-9 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.
22. Acts 7:59-60 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
23. Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
24. 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
John 20:27-28 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
25. 2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ
26. Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
1. John 10:30 The Father and I are one.
2. Philippians 2:5-6 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had. Though he was God, he did not think of equality with God as something to cling to.
3. John 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
4. John 1:18 No one has ever seen God, but the one and only Son, who is himself God and is in closest relationship with the Father, has made him known.
5. Colossians 2:9-10 For in him the whole fullness of deity dwells bodily. and in Christ you have been brought to fullness. He is the head over every power and authority.
6. John 10:33 “We are not stoning you for any good work,” they replied, “but for blasphemy, because you, a mere man, claim to be God.”
7. John 5:18 This was why the Jews were seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath, but he was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.
8. John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
9. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
10. 1 John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us understanding, so that we may know him who is true; and we are in him who is true, in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.
11. To them belong the patriarchs, and from their race, according to the flesh, is the Christ, who is God over all, blessed forever. Amen.
12. Romans 10:13 For “everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”
13. John 8:57-58 The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?” Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”
14. John 8:22-24 This made the Jews ask, “Will he kill himself? Is that why he says, ‘Where I go, you cannot come’?” But he continued, “You are from below; I am from above. You are of this world; I am not of this world. 24 I told you that you would die in your sins; if you do not believe that I am he, you will indeed die in your sins.”
15. John 13:18-19 “I am not referring to all of you; I know those I have chosen. But this is to fulfill this passage of Scripture: ‘He who shared my bread has turned against me.’ “I am telling you now before it happens, so that when it does happen you will believe that I am who I am.
16. Isaiah 44:6 Thus says the LORD, the King of Israel and his Redeemer, the LORD of hosts: “I am the first and I am the last; besides me there is no god.
17. 1 Corinthians 8:6 Yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
18. Revelation 2:8 “And to the angel of the church in Smyrna write: ‘The words of the first and the last, who died and came to life.
19. Revelation 1:17-18 When I saw him, I fell at his feet as though dead. But he laid his right hand on me, saying, “Fear not, I am the first and the last, and the living one. I died, and behold I am alive forevermore, and I have the keys of Death and Hades.
20. Matthew 2:1-2 After Jesus was born in Bethlehem in Judea, during the time of King Herod, Magi from the east came to Jerusalem and asked, “Where is the one who has been born king of the Jews? We saw his star when it rose and have come to worship him.”
21 Matthew 28:8-9 So the women hurried away from the tomb, afraid yet filled with joy, and ran to tell his disciples. Suddenly Jesus met them. “Greetings,” he said. They came to him, clasped his feet and worshiped him.
22. Acts 7:59-60 And as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” And when he had said this, he fell asleep.
23. Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.
24. 2 Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all.
John 20:27-28 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.” Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”
25. 2 Peter 1:1 Simeon Peter, a servant and apostle of Jesus Christ, To those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our God and Savior Jesus Christ
26. Acts 20:28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.
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Jesus directed us to venerate His flesh when He instituted the ritual of breaking bread and said the bread is His body. He wanted that ritual to be His memorial until He returned.
If His Body were corrupt why would He say the bread is His Body? His blood, is that not precious? Isn't the blood part of the flesh? How does corrupted blood make one clean?
If His Body were corrupt why would He say the bread is His Body? His blood, is that not precious? Isn't the blood part of the flesh? How does corrupted blood make one clean?