Is Harvey a harbinger for the US as was the "Twin Towers" in New York?

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So you think God is just going to let the world carry on like this?

Animal human hybrids
Children with 3 parents
Gay marriage
Rampant abortions two a penny
Bees being killed off, which will destroy the environmental life cycle
GMO foods

and on and on and on

You clearly have no idea of who God is
And you clearly ignore Jesus own words in John 5.22-24

[SUP]22 [/SUP]For not even the Father judges anyone, but He has given all judgment to the Son, [SUP]23 [/SUP]so that all will honor the Son even as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him. [SUP]24 [/SUP]“Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


And while we are here, do you really think the things you listed above are new to the world? Paul and others fought against this same stuff.....you are devoid of any real knowledge.....when the real time comes to stand up...guys like you will drop....
 
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Exactly. That is what is coming to America which has abandoned God...well put
If anything America will capitulate her sovereignty to one of the 10 kingdoms...the Bible teaches many, will abandon God, not just one country....its called the great falling away....
 

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Be careful who you call a false prophet. You spout a lot of nonsense, but I would not want to make a false accusation.
Correctly speaking, it is Babylon being judged, so you are right, it is not America. But there are now things coming that are very major. Most of my dreams are to do with America. There is no fearmongering. Christians are perfectly safe in the Lord. Perhaps your fear is oppressing you. It is human, but not spiritual


The only thing coming down from a end time is the Desolation of Syria, Isaiah 17, many false prophets[you]coming in the name of Jesus and the formation of the 10 kingdoms....of which America is probably going to be joined to....

The largest sign of the formation of the 10 kingdoms is the proliferation of crypto-currency and the tech behind it....this has to be set up and activated in order to force the fall of the world banking and stock markets....another sign is the radical speed at which smart tattoos are being implemented....Stop looking in the sky for signs of Judgement not coming and look around at the real issues...

You seem to be floating the NAR/Latter day rain revival false doctrines, that in the last days God is judging the USA so they repent and turn to him and he drops a Holy Ghost bomb that produces an outpouring of his Spirits on all flesh and there is a huge earth based revival before that other false super secret escape pod thingee called the rapture takes place...then the world collapses...

The trouble is there is not indication in scripture of any such 2 events...or that God judges anyone at the end of the age...but we see that Jesus becomes the righteous Judge and things get very bad and he that endures to the end will be saved...
 

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There are a few issues here that need to addressed - the curses etc wrath are all part of the old covenant (which passed away in the 1st century AD) and are not applicable under new.

John 12:47 “If anyone hears My sayings and does not keep them, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world, but to save the world.

The judgment of "Babylon" aka 1st century AD apostate Judah/Israel was accomplished in the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem in the war of 66-70 AD for killing the prophets, Jesus and the early disciples:

Matt 23:35 so that upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar.

Matt 24:36 “Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation."

Matt 23:37 “Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling.

The above judgment carried out as per the book of revelation:

Rev 18:20 “Rejoice over her, O heaven, and you saints and apostles and prophets, because God has pronounced judgment for you against her.”
 

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Matthew 24:3b. Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?

Be very careful that no one deceives you. You will hear of wars and rumours of wars, but the end is not yet.
Nation shall rise against nation, and there will be earthquakes, in many places.

So far this year, there have been 5,768 earthquakes that have been recorded according to the rector scale, and the year isn’t over yet.

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All these are the beginning of sorrows. Many will be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another because iniquity will become extremely prevalent, and because of this, the love of many will grow cold.

These are all “harbingers.”


Matthew 24:37-39, 42 and 44
37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
44 Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
 
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There is no end of the world.

Using a KJV bible will lead you wrong, Jesus was talking about the end of the age - Greek "aion".

Matt 24:3 s He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
 

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There is no end of the world.

Using a KJV bible will lead you wrong, Jesus was talking about the end of the age - Greek "aion".

Matt 24:3 s He was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to Him privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen, and what will be the sign of Your coming, and of the end of the age?”
I won't deny the "end of the age" thing. Usually the world represent people, and the earth represents the planet. I relate the "end of the age" with the "times of the Gentiles."

And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
(Luke 21:24)
 
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Be careful who you call a false prophet. You spout a lot of nonsense, but I would not want to make a false accusation.
Correctly speaking, it is Babylon being judged, so you are right, it is not America. But there are now things coming that are very major. Most of my dreams are to do with America. There is no fearmongering. Christians are perfectly safe in the Lord. Perhaps your fear is oppressing you. It is human, but not spiritual


Self called and self identified prophets are no prophets which does not even make them false.....grow up bro....I gave you scripture and you still refute it....

You are no prophet...you may be out to make a profit...but you are no called Prophet...take you NAR inspired heresy and fork it on the people who cannot discern something other than flesh....
 

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I never called myself a prophet. You did actually...So I am bemused to say the very least. Your behaviour is wierd and cultic. Do you Lord it over your congregation in this manner?
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I never called myself a prophet. You did actually...So I am bemused to say the very least. Your behaviour is wierd and cultic. Do you Lord it over your congregation in this manner?
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what is it with you NAR/Latter day rain types that preach this foolishness...you all have thin skin for sure...
 

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What is NAR btw?

You are a piece of work. You label me a false prophet, which is punishable by death
And then say I am thinskinned when I object...
 

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a false prophet, which is punishable by death
While it might appear that the punishment of death is the judgement that the LORD instructs to be imposed upon those who are deemed to have spoken in the name of the LORD presumptuously or have been deceived yet the precept of life shall go for life would contradict that prophesy of scripture.

And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel. Ezek 14:9

Sometimes you just got to have a little faith that the LORD is not mocked, for whatsoever a man soweth that shall he also reap.

1 Samuel 2:6

Isaiah 59:1

Note: There is a reason it is called prophesy of scripture.
 
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There is no end of the world.

Using a KJV bible will lead you wrong, Jesus was talking about the end of the age - Greek "aion".
Surely thou shall not die hisssss. :cool:

Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Matt 24:35

Was he talking about the heaven and earth created in Genesis 1:1?, or was he talking about

And God called the firmament Heaven.Gen 1:8
And God called the dry land Earth. Gen 1:10

since it is written that you also shall bear witness, because you have been with me from the beginning?

Since the nature of all living things in the universe reflects the precepts having a beginning, or birth of life and concludes with death, or end of life. Since a kind of tree brings forth the like kind of fruit then one could reasonably conclude that if the universe had a beginning of its physical existence, then if all non-living matter in this world had a beginning including living matter, then it too would have an end. And the known and observed universe reflects that all living matter has a mortal nature.

Hence, we are all dead under the law. And that might have been the principle of Genesis 3, whether one eats from the tree of life or the tree of knowledge, that we live by grace of the LORD whose word is from everlasting to everlasting.
 

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Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away. Matt 24:35

Was he talking about the heaven and earth created in Genesis 1:1?, or was he talking about

And God called the firmament Heaven.Gen 1:8
And God called the dry land Earth. Gen 1:10
None of the above - these are the "heavens and earth" Jesus is speaking of:

Isa 51:16 “I have put My words in your mouth and have covered you with the shadow of My hand, to establish the heavens, to found the earth, and to say to Zion, ‘You are My people.’”

He never said to Israel "you are my people" in Gen 1:1, 1:8 or 1:10.

What Jesus was speaking of was the passing away of the old covenant form of the "heavens and earth" in the destruction of the temple in the 1st century AD and the waxing of the old covenant as per Hebrews.
 
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They just said on the news that today is the 12th anniversary of hurricane Katrina (New Orleans flood disaster). :eek:
 

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Look, you take these things for what they are worth. I know a Christian Lady who I would call a prophetess. She was given visions for America of 5 hurricanes of increasing intensity, followed by two cataclysmic earthquakes. I do not in any way call myself a prophet, but I have had several dreams about America, the last of which involved the whole country being inundated and under a lot of water, and me swimming in it in Texas. So forgive me if Harvey has got my attention.

Regarding denoms Meggido. I am a non dom non denom. I live in the wilderness.

However my studies of Daniel suggested to me some major occurence June 30 2017 which I understand as the collapse, or beginning of the collapse, of Mystery Babylon. A bible sage that I know disagrees with me, and says in the fall 2017. I guess I am definitely wrong, and he remains to be vindicated.

One thing for absolute certain, the world is getting convulsed and shaken. But we will see...predictions, however much rooted in scripture, are perilous.
 
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Almost exactly 16 years have passed since the attack on the twin towers. (September 11, 2001) The Biblical number 16 represents "love." God sent prophet after prophet to warn people of coming judgements because of His love for us.

Harvey, a Category 4 hurricane, made landfall exactly 4 days after the Great American Eclipse and 4 weeks before the Feast of Trumpets, or, on the Jewish calendar, exactly 4 weeks before the Revelation 12 Sign featuring a woman with 12 stars on her head who symbolizes the 12 tribes of Israel. The storm was the most powerful hurricane to make landfall in 12 years and brought with it 12-foot storm surges.

The Biblical number 4 represents our created world/earth.
Genesis 1:14-19
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
[SUP]18 [/SUP]And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

The Biblical number 12 represents perfect government.
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. (Genesis 17:20)

Now the sons of Jacob were twelve: (Genesis 35::22b)

All these are the twelve tribes of Israel: and this is it that their father spake unto them, and blessed them; every one according to his blessing he blessed them. (Genesis 49:28)

Might this be true or false? Or may it have some validity, but maybe a little far fetched?
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Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When its branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves (The State of Israel proclaimed on May 14, 1948), you know that summer is near: So likewise you, when you shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.Matthew 24: 32-34

We Are Now In The Fig Tree Generation.
1948 Was The Start Of the Last Generation

The Clock stopped in the 69th week which we are in. 1948 + 69 = could equal the Rapture of the Chuch. (I notice you are 69)

 
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[SUP]11 [/SUP]And he said, Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord. And, behold, the Lord passed by, and a great and strong wind rent the mountains, and brake in pieces the rocks before the Lord; but the Lord was not in the wind: and after the wind an earthquake; but the Lord was not in the earthquake:

[SUP]12 [/SUP]And after the earthquake a fire; but the Lord was not in the fire: and after the fire a still small voice. 1 Kings 19:11-12
(Far too many in the modern Church have traded the "still small voice" for the fire, wind, earthquake, etc.)

Jesus Stills The Storm
[SUP]37 [/SUP]And there arose a great storm of wind, and the waves beat into the ship, so that it was now full (represents in the spiritual sense, the storms of life, which come to every person).
[SUP]38 [/SUP]And he was in the hinder part of the ship, asleep on a pillow: and they awake him, and say unto him, Master, carest thou not that we perish (The Lord had said, "let us pass over unto the other side." This means that despite the storm, or anything else for that matter, they would reach the other shore. The people of God are in the boat with Christ, and we cannot perish because He cannot perish. But we must expect storms of opposition for they are sure to come {Psalm 93})?
[SUP]39 [/SUP]And he arose, and rebuked the wind, and said unto the sea, Peace, be still (the Greek intimates, "Silence! Hush!"). And the wind ceased, and there was a great calm (instantly).
[SUP]40 [/SUP]And he said unto them, Why are ye so fearful? how is it that ye have no faith?
[SUP]41 [/SUP]And they feared exceedingly, and said one to another, What manner of man is this, that even the wind and the sea obey Him (The Disciples were right! the wind and sea did obey Him, and so does everything else. So why should we fear?) Mark 4:37-41


 

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There is no reason for God to speak to Christians in punishments - of course he just speaks normally.

But one of God's first acts of punishment for unbelievers was sending a flood.
 

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Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When its branch is yet tender, and puts forth leaves (The State of Israel proclaimed on May 14, 1948), you know that summer is near: So likewise you, when you shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.Matthew 24: 32-34

We Are Now In The Fig Tree Generation.
1948 Was The Start Of the Last Generation

The Clock stopped in the 69th week which we are in. 1948 + 69 = could equal the Rapture of the Chuch. (I notice you are 69)


I was born in 47, and on Pearl Harbour day I will be 70. That still adds up to the same, but I really don't think that applies. LOL