Is it possible to recieve a false gospel and Jesus

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While I'm a Pentecostal, I will not suggest trying my denomination nor will I tell you what ones to stay away from. No christian's responsibility is to be a car salesman trying to keep you away from the "competition".

Apparently, it IS possible to hear the gospel in the strangest of places...... I was saved in a church where the leadership believed in Word of Faith, which is heresy.

What I suggest is that you pray that God grant you wisdom & understanding as you read your Bible. The Holy Spirit will guide you into the truth.
 
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popeye

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Somehow you went from member to guest.
 

MarcR

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Let me start off A little background.I grew and was baptized in a Baptist church @ 8 years old I was baptized.I drifted from God in my adolescent years.I re dedicated my life to Christ @ 17 or 18 and began to attend a small Pentecostal church were I was baptized again.At about the age of 24I began to listen to a radio station called both radio network.I noticed that these preachers are a lot different than the preachers I had ever heard.They didn't believe in prophets,speaking things into existence,decreeing and declaring,and speaking in tongues as evidence of salvation.Now,I must say,I began to question rather or not these two very different secs of religion were talking about the same God.I am now at a nondenominational church that seems to hold more of the beliefs of Pentecostal denomination.I find myself identifying more with preachers like chip ingram,chuck swindoll. In my personal time with the Lord,I ask him to guide me with the meanings of scriptures that are interpreted differently by different denominations.There is such a difference in scripture interpretation that I am starting to believe that one is preaching a completely different gospel.The very character of God seems to be different between the two.PLEASE HELP.
Most mainstream church denominations, who acknowledge the authority of Scripture agree on the essentials of Salvation.

The doctrinal differences among these Bible believing denominations can be quite significant. To complicate things members of each of these denominations are persuaded that their doctrine is correct.

We have these promises to guide us:

Jn 16:13-15
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
KJV


Jas 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
KJV


In addition this passage gives us further guidance
Gal 5:22-25
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
KJV

The answer to your question is yes it is indeed possible to know the Lord and hear false teaching.

It is important to let the Holy Spirit and Scripture guide your beliefs rather than the teachings of a denomination.

I think Chuck Swindoll is very sound ans any church with similar teachings will likely be a good place for you.
 
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I think Chuck Swindoll is very sound ans any church with similar teachings will likely be a good place for you.


I would be wary of any 'superstar' or 'heavyhitter' that puts his name on transcendental meditation teachers. Aamof, I've come to the conclusion that following 'superstars' any way, shape, or form has helped lead the church down the spiritual liberal avalanche that it's on. Just my 2 cents worth.....
 

Yet

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Babylonian mysteries, Chaldean mysteries, new ageism, transported to Pergomos, the seat of satan, then on to Rome, then strains of it into Protestantism. Been quite a pagan history. For the child of God, the redeemed, there is the Holy Spirit that will teach us all things and has no need for man to teach him. Red light, green light. A thing that brings peace vs. agitation of spirit. The close walk with Him supplies this guidance and revelation. Must have all sins under that precious atoning blood for this to be realized and operational. May God keep you!
 
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eternally-gratefull

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a false gospel will not lead to Christ, it will lead to hell. thats why Paul taught one gospel, and condemned others.

Many denominations teach the correct gospel. but differ on other non essential areas.

The gospel (how one gets to heaven) is really what matters, study yourself then find a church that you see holds the right gospel. and is a good bible teaching church, stay away from ritualism, it will get you no where. and lead you away from God, not toward him.
 

MarcR

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Most mainstream church denominations, who acknowledge the authority of Scripture agree on the essentials of Salvation.

The doctrinal differences among these Bible believing denominations can be quite significant. To complicate things members of each of these denominations are persuaded that their doctrine is correct.

We have these promises to guide us:

Jn 16:13-15
13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.
KJV


Jas 1:5-8
5 If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him.
6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.
7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.
8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
KJV


In addition this passage gives us further guidance
Gal 5:22-25
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
KJV

The answer to your question is yes it is indeed possible to know the Lord and hear false teaching.

It is important to let the Holy Spirit and Scripture guide your beliefs rather than the teachings of a denomination.

I think Chuck Swindoll is very sound ans any church with similar teachings will likely be a good place for you.
I have always thought of Chuck Swindoll as a seminarian who has enlarged his teaching venue rather than as a super star.

I don't follow him and certainly don't follow his endorsements. Every time I have heard him; he has seemed doctrinally sound.

I think that any church bigger than 150 families is too big to do its job.
 

crossnote

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The doctrine that points to the true Person of Jesus Christ is true doctrine.
A doctrine that points to its own is not true doctrine.
 
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Alextor

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Let me start off A little background.I grew and was baptized in a Baptist church @ 8 years old I was baptized.I drifted from God in my adolescent years.I re dedicated my life to Christ @ 17 or 18 and began to attend a small Pentecostal church were I was baptized again.At about the age of 24I began to listen to a radio station called both radio network.I noticed that these preachers are a lot different than the preachers I had ever heard.They didn't believe in prophets,speaking things into existence,decreeing and declaring,and speaking in tongues as evidence of salvation.Now,I must say,I began to question rather or not these two very different secs of religion were talking about the same God.I am now at a nondenominational church that seems to hold more of the beliefs of Pentecostal denomination.I find myself identifying more with preachers like chip ingram,chuck swindoll. In my personal time with the Lord,I ask him to guide me with the meanings of scriptures that are interpreted differently by different denominations.There is such a difference in scripture interpretation that I am starting to believe that one is preaching a completely different gospel.The very character of God seems to be different between the two.PLEASE HELP.
Once our Lord Jesus Christ revealed Himself to Paul, whom He appointed our minister, Paul said he did not confer to anyone for 3 years. For those 3 years he learned from the revelation of Jesus Christ Himself.

Like you, several years ago, I finally read the bible from cover to cover. Started with the Old Testament, and let me tell you some parts were very ...... let me say not very interesting at all.

Then I began with the New Testament, and WOW. When I had finished, like you, some of the things that our Father had shown to me was not at all what I had been taught in church. So I read the New Testament again, and again. I stopped going to church, stopped listening to TV or radio pastors. I just kept on reading and studing the New Testament again and again, over and over. Little did I realize that I was imitated Paul. I then understood that there really wasn't one denomination out there that taught the whole truth.

They all seem to have some truth, but the truth they taught, was watered down and distorted. The devil has been very crafty on how he got into our churches. Paul warned us about this because it was going on even in his time way back then.

Don't get me wrong, I do visit a lot of different churches, of many different denominations, because Paul says we should not neglect the gathering together for fellowship and worship. But I rely on the teaching I receive from the Holy Spirit by continually reading the scriptures over and over again. Not from the teaching of man.