Is it possible to recieve a false gospel and Jesus

finishwellinchrist · Mar 21, 2015

Let me start off A little background.I grew and was baptized in a Baptist church @ 8 years old I was baptized.I drifted from God in my adolescent years.I re dedicated my life to Christ @ 17 or 18 and began to attend a small Pentecostal church were I was baptized again.At about the age of 24I began to listen to a radio station called both radio network.I noticed that these preachers are a lot different than the preachers I had ever heard.They didn't believe in prophets,speaking things into existence,decreeing and declaring,and speaking in tongues as evidence of salvation.Now,I must say,I began to question rather or not these two very different secs of religion were talking about the same God.I am now at a nondenominational church that seems to hold more of the beliefs of Pentecostal denomination.I find myself identifying more with preachers like chip ingram,chuck swindoll. In my personal time with the Lord,I ask him to guide me with the meanings of scriptures that are interpreted differently by different denominations.There is such a difference in scripture interpretation that I am starting to believe that one is preaching a completely different gospel.The very character of God seems to be different between the two.PLEASE HELP.

pem · Mar 21, 2015

finishwellinchrist said:

You need to get to a Reformed congregation who uphold the Westminster Confession of Faith . The Pastor will advise you and instruct into the Reformed Faith . You should flee all Pentecostal/charismatic/rapturecult/zionist baptist Churches . Find a Presbyterian place to go to as it is as close to Biblical Faith as any other congregation on Earth . The American constitution was framed and based upon Presbyterian principles.

Many here will laugh and mock at what i have told you . How you handle all the advice you will get from others - time will tell . Dont be too quick to answer me or anyone else. Just read all the incoming posts before making a decision . If you get better advice than the advice i offered here - i will tell you . Meanwhile a friend of mine in the USA will help you all you need . Here he is : Dr. Joel Beeke Sermons | SermonAudio.com

p.s. You dont need to get re-batised - God knows your heart .

michael56 · Mar 21, 2015

finishwellinchrist said:

This is a great question!

I responded to an altar call at the age of ten. I was immediately convicted I was a sinner. I tried my hardest to be a Christian and not sin, but miserably failed. When I was nineteen I finally read the whole of the NT for myself, and discovered much of the core of the Gospel had never been preached in the church of my youth. I rededicated my life to God
Was I a Christian before I was 19? I believe I was, for my conscience at sin for me proves it. I had repented, asked Jesus into my life as Lord and Saviour. For me the proof of being saved is having heartfelt conviction of your sin. For it is through the law you become conscious of your sin(Rom 3:20) Under the new covenant the law God requires you to keep is written on your mind and placed on your heart at the point of conversion(Heb 10:16&17) you have then been born again of the Spirit, once that has happened, you are saved.

popeye · Mar 21, 2015

You will get a million answers to this on cc.

Most here are 'doctrine' centered and will demonise charasmatics,wof and anything to do with moving and operating in the gifts of the spirit.

My advice is to center yourself in Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I love wigglesworth,Chambers,Nee,and shake my head at the powerless, mental, doctrinal, crowd.

Pentacostal oneness is indeed a 'diferent gospel' (no such thing as the father except they say Jesus is the father)

pem · Mar 21, 2015

popeye said:

Ignore this nonsense. All mentioned above preach a False Gospel - the very thing you need to flee from !

kedge · Mar 21, 2015

I would say yes it is more than possible, even the Bible says so, use discernment.

Matthew 7:15
Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

Matthew 24:24

For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.

finishwellinchrist · Mar 21, 2015

I guess my main concern is those who have received a false gospel and Jesus may have received a false spirit,and if so,what spirit is guiding them

kedge · Mar 21, 2015

finishwellinchrist said:

2 Corinthians 11:14
And no wonder, for even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.

Revelation 12:9
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

yaright · Mar 21, 2015

finishwellinchrist said:

I know this might not be coming at a good time, but I feel compelled to share it. What you are saying is actually appropriate. There is no religion on earth that can save you; because each religion believes it holds absolute Truth. There is only One who is absolute Truth, and Jesus clearly states this. If you go to church to sing praises to our Heavenly Father and sign your prayers in the Name of Jesus Christ, you certainly will be trusting Jesus more than men. Developing a personal relationship with Jesus isn't always easy in the beginning of a person's walk of faith. It is a good thing that you wrestle with the words of the bible, and with your own thoughts that are being challenged on a daily basis. This is one of the reasons for our Lord's prayer, which speaks of things on a daily basis. In the Lord's prayer, note the beginning and end. You are not alone. In the end of that prayer, you have an advocate standing with you. His name is Jesus. Do you love your religion more than Jesus? There is a conflict which Jesus speaks of to Peter when He asked, "Do you love Me more than these?" Peter loved the church formed by men and women. He did this according to the things which seemed right to him. Another way of saying this is Peter clothed himself in the security of things which seemed right to him. But when Peter realized the one thing he trusted most about himself, denied the One who was sent to save him. Many preach that it was Peter's pride and say we should not be like Peter. Jesus didn't use the word pride. Jesus used the word 'love', the one thing a man trusts most about himself. Using the word clothing consistently, Jesus said when you are young, you clothe yourself in the things which seem right to you and you go where ever you wish. But when you are older in wisdom, you will raise your arms and another will clothe you and take you where you don't wish to go. It is a true statement. Don't be discouraged because you wrestle with the word of God for understanding. This will cause you to grow, much like wheat growing from the ground fights against the elements of nature. It is this growing you must do in order to become food for God's people. Anyone who says being a believer in Christ is easily done, does not walk in the shoes of the faithful. In case anyone uses this against you; Jesus said, "Oh you of little faith" ONLY to those who followed Him closely. It can be said that even little faith is a powerful place in the hands of a King.

finishwellinchrist · Mar 21, 2015

In tears.......thank you.

mailmandan · Mar 21, 2015

The gospel is the "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4) and is the power of God unto salvation for everyone who BELIEVES.. (Romans 1:16). Not according to our works but according to Jesus --- His ALL-sufficient finished work of redemption. Sufficient and complete. Nothing more to be added to what Jesus did. Beware of those who teach a different gospel that cannot save and preach another Jesus who is not God. 2 Corinthians 11:4 For if he who comes preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or if you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted..

Saint-John · Mar 21, 2015

Yes , same in Jesus time....anyone who says man is ok the way he is ..WRONG
"" just by FAITH is saved ..WRONG
"" GRACE WRONG
just confess with mouth.. WRONG
Just (john 3 v16 ) God so loved the world... WRONG

ITS A PACKAGE DEAL !!!!!!!!! put the pieces together , please !
there are many more scriptures ..acts 2 v 38 (starting point) Repent (babys cant !), Be Baptised ( Full immersion ) , recieve the Holy Spirit ( speak in tongues ) as Jesus said..

Mark 16 v16+16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

These are for true believers not pretenders !!!!! ALL

mailmandan · Mar 21, 2015

Saint-John said:

So saved by grace through FAITH, NOT WORKS (Ephesians 2:8,9) is WRONG? Whosoever BELIEVES IN HIM shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16) is WRONG? Absolutely not.

Repentance actually precedes saving belief/faith in Christ. Matthew 21:32 - For John came to you to show you the way of righteousness, and you did not believe him, but the tax collectors and the prostitutes did. And even after you saw this, you did not repent and believe him. Mark 1:15 - Repent and believe the gospel. Acts 20:21 - testifying both to Jews and to Greeks of repentance toward God and of faith in our Lord Jesus Christ.

Acts 2:38 does not negate Acts 10:43-47. Scripture must harmonize with other scripture or else we have a contradiction and there are no contradictions in God's Word. In Acts 10:45, notice ..the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also BEFORE water baptism (Acts 10:47) *compare with Acts 2:38 ..receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Repentance and believing the gospel are inseparable in receiving salvation, but you can repent and believe the gospel and NOT YET BE WATER BAPTIZED. We must harmonize scripture with scripture before reaching the proper conclusion and not distort passages of scripture then patch them together to create a different "watered down" gospel.

In Acts 2:38, "for the remission of sins" does not refer back to both clauses, "you all repent" and "each one of you be baptized," but refers only to the first. Peter is saying "repent unto the remission of your sins," the same as in Acts 3:19. The clause "each one of you be baptized" is parenthetical.

Acts 3:19 - Repent therefore and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, so that times of refreshing may come from the presence of the Lord. *What happened to baptism?

Acts 10:43 - To Him all the prophets witness that, through His name, whoever believes in Him will receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter was still speaking these words, the Holy Spirit fell upon all those who heard the word. 45 And those of the circumcision who believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because the gift of the Holy Spirit had been poured out on the Gentiles also. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues and magnify God. Then Peter answered, 47 "Can anyone forbid water, that these should not be baptized who have received the Holy Spirit just as we have?" *What happened to baptism in verse 43? *Received the gift of the Holy Spirit PRIOR TO WATER BAPTISM.

Acts 11:17 - If therefore God gave them the same gift (Holy Spirit) as He gave us when we believed on the Lord Jesus Christ, (compare with *Acts 16:31 - believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved) who was I that I could withstand God?" When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, "Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance unto life. *What happened to baptism?

Acts 15:8 - So God, who knows the heart, acknowledged them by giving them the Holy Spirit, just as He did to us, and made no distinction between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. *What happened to baptism?

Faith in Jesus Christ "implied in genuine repentance" (rather than water baptism) brings the remission of sins and the gift of the Holy Spirit (Acts 2:38; 3:19; 10:43-47; 11:17,18; 15:8,9). *Perfect Harmony*

"He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved" (general cases without making a qualification for the unusual case of someone who believes but is not baptized) but he that believeth not shall be damned. The omission of baptized with "believeth not" shows that Jesus does not make baptism absolutely essential to salvation. Condemnation rests on unbelief, not on baptism. So salvation rests on belief. If water baptism is absolutely required for salvation (dipped or condemned), then why did Jesus NOT mention it in the following verses? (3:15,16,18; 5:24; 6:29,40,47; 11:25,26). What is the ONE requirement that Jesus mentions 9 different times in each of these complete statements? BELIEVES. *What happened to baptism? *Hermeneutics.

notuptome · Mar 21, 2015

finishwellinchrist said:

This is indeed a terrifying thought. There is only one other spirit in the world. If it is not of God then it is a familiar spirit of this world.

Scripture teaches that the devil can appear even as an angel of light. 2Cor 11:14

Many there will be in that day that say unto Christ Lord, Lord have we not done many mighty works in they name.

Many not few.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

4enlightment · Mar 21, 2015

finishwellinchrist said:

1 John 4 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world. ...

Galatians 5:22-23 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

popeye · Mar 21, 2015

see what I mean. Hate of the lords body.
Sad and reckles

popeye · Mar 21, 2015

finishwellinchrist said:

Jesus said "my sheep know my voice"
When you see a segment of the body of christ demonizing another segment,and hating on them,you know they are not frrom God.
We are GUARANTEED the truth and true spirit from God. When you ask for the Holy Spirit,you will not recieve another.
This is why the baptism of the Holy Spirit was offered.
"......tarry in Jerusalem till you are ENDUED WITH POWER"
9 And I say unto you, Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you.
10 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
11 If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if he ask a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent?
12 Or if he shall ask an egg, will he offer him a scorpion?
13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him?

See that? Now a great mystery is unveiled. Why some are guaranteed,and why some demonize those with a guarantee.

Chilling to say the least.

thecreationtutor · Mar 21, 2015

Read ephesians 4:1-6 Paul talks about unity in the body of Christ and 7 major doctrines every Christian, and denomination has to hold - the rest in scripture is minor

Oneness Pentacostals do not believe in the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit as uniquely different persons three in one God head

This is heresy, the Bible does not teach this

One father, One lord, one Spirit, one baptism, one body, one hope, one faith

popeye · Mar 21, 2015

thecreationtutor said:

Read ephesians 4:1-6 Paul talks about unity in the body of Christ and 7 major doctrines every Christian, and denomination has to hold - the rest in scripture is minor

Oneness Pentacostals do not believe in the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit as uniquely different persons three in one God head

This is heresy, the Bible does not teach this

One father, One lord, one Spirit, one baptism, one body, one hope, one faith

Correct
Thank God for the written word.

84Niner · Mar 21, 2015

From what you first posted, I have very little doubt that you yourself are indeed saved. That, I would not question. Your desire to go on with the Lord with your life testifies to that. There is no answer that I can give you regarding all the different denominational groups regarding "false gospel" and such. The main thing is that you are saved. The secondary thing is, now what do you do?

There are many many groups out there that lead people to truly take Christ as their Lord and bring them into real salvation, but then go on in what I would call an errant path in how the Lord desires to shepherd us for the rest of our christian walk.

The main thing that I would emphasis to you is now that God has brought you into His fellowship through the salvation offered in Christ, He has a desire to grow and expand in you to bring you unto maturity in that life. (study Ephesians to see more). To find the best body of believers (I purposefully did not use the word "right group") to help facilitate that "growth in Life", I would say that you first pray about it in earnest. This is no doubt that this is the Lords will, and if we pray according to His will He will surely answer us.

I trust that the Lord will lead you to a congregation of believers who put Christ first and before anything else. If the "teachings and interpretations of biblical doctrine" don't always lead us into a more deep and intimate relationship with Christ I would question their motives. Christ is the source of our salvation, and Christ should be the content of our ever growing christian journey as we grow in Him.

Many groups have a self promoting agenda with the emphasis on a particular doctrine, or on a particular charismatic type person that promote that "doctrine" or "that person" above the enjoyment of Christ Himself, born out of some "other" agenda. Be cautious.

Again, pray. And when you are led to that body of believers that have true fellowship with the Lord which becomes a real shepherding to you resulting in your growth in the Life of the Lord Jesus unto His glory instead of our glory...you will know it.

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