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Isaiah 43:11 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
Acts 4:10-12 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] let it be known to all of you and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene—whom you crucified and whom God raised from the dead—by Him this man is standing here before you healthy.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] This ⌊Jesus⌋ is the stone rejected by you builders, which has become the cornerstone.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] There is salvation in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to people, and we must be saved by it.”
JESUS is YAHWEH and YAHWEH is JESUS!
2 Corinthians 5:19 (KJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
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That is called - - - - "Give them enough rope."
Philippians 2:6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
If He is not God, then He was deceived into thinking He was equal with God!
If He is not God, then He was deceived into thinking He was equal with God!
Well shucks! Since I didn't go to preacher's school I just missed out on that first century Greek-Latin Lexicons and GRAMMARS. Maybe I can buy one from Amazon.
Only when people cannot grasp that there is ONE GOD THE FATHER and Jesus WHOM GOD MADE TO BE both Lord and Christ)
And "There is ONE GOD THE FATHER and one mediator, the MAN Jesus Christ.
The way we engineers people who have to make our products work is we look at the actual text in several versions, find translations in Greek or Latin which no one can miss and get waged for a role Christ failed to ordain in Ephesians 4.
Then we look up and see how words are USED (never defined as in preacher land) in REAL TEXTS: I have access to most of the ancient Greek and Latin texts with translations. Then, to fall into trinitarianism, we would hope that a REAL person would leave a loophole large enough to drive THREE GOD PEOPLE through. Then, we look at historic scholarship and see whether anyone said that Jesus was Jehovah without getting burned: and nope, no one ever debated the clear statements that
The text says that even though God gave Jesus of Nazareth (born of the SEED of Abraham) His full authority.
Satan tempted Jesus to EXERCISE that authority.
Jesus responded that the WORD of God is the ONLY spiritual authority.
The Spirit OF Christ in the Prophets told preachers that IF they do not SPEAK that word THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM
Enthroned and Glorified, Philippians 2:9-11
A. "Therefore" (because he humbled himself) God highly exalted him, 9.
B. "Given a name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow," 9-10 and Romans 14:11 -
Romans 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived,
......that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother?
......or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?
......for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord,
......every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Romans 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Now, look at the CONTEXT of Isaiah who also said that it was not GOD who created the unholy mess in Genesis
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near;
......yea, let them take counsel together:
......who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time?
......have not I the LORD [Jehovah]? and there is no God else beside me;
......a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
I didn't need to consult another preacher to understand NONE BESIDE ME.
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth:
......for I am God, and there is none else.
Now, without upsetting people with quotes from higher level scholarship:
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the WORD [Dabar, Logos]
......and is gone out of MY MOUTH in righteousness, and shall not return,
......That unto ME every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
ONLY AFTER JESUS FULFILLED GOD'S MISSION: Jesus said that HE did not speak on His own; the Father breathed (spirit) and Jesus ARTICULATED. Jesus was therefore NOT Jehovah God.
The, after the changed Jesus assumed the COMMISSION as Holy Spirit enthroned as God's RIGHT HAND did Paul say
Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him,
......and given him a name which is above every name:
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven,
......and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess
......that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
OTHER EXAMPLES:
Jesus in the flesh was the SEED of Abraham and David: Jesus was/is NOT Jehovah.
Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself,
......The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
......that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified,
......both Lord and Christ.
Only when people cannot grasp that there is ONE GOD THE FATHER and Jesus WHOM GOD MADE TO BE both Lord and Christ)
And "There is ONE GOD THE FATHER and one mediator, the MAN Jesus Christ.
The way we engineers people who have to make our products work is we look at the actual text in several versions, find translations in Greek or Latin which no one can miss and get waged for a role Christ failed to ordain in Ephesians 4.
Then we look up and see how words are USED (never defined as in preacher land) in REAL TEXTS: I have access to most of the ancient Greek and Latin texts with translations. Then, to fall into trinitarianism, we would hope that a REAL person would leave a loophole large enough to drive THREE GOD PEOPLE through. Then, we look at historic scholarship and see whether anyone said that Jesus was Jehovah without getting burned: and nope, no one ever debated the clear statements that
The text says that even though God gave Jesus of Nazareth (born of the SEED of Abraham) His full authority.
Satan tempted Jesus to EXERCISE that authority.
Jesus responded that the WORD of God is the ONLY spiritual authority.
The Spirit OF Christ in the Prophets told preachers that IF they do not SPEAK that word THERE IS NO LIGHT IN THEM
Enthroned and Glorified, Philippians 2:9-11
A. "Therefore" (because he humbled himself) God highly exalted him, 9.
B. "Given a name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow," 9-10 and Romans 14:11 -
Romans 14:9 For to this end Christ both died, and rose, and revived,
......that he might be Lord both of the dead and living.
Romans 14:10 But why dost thou judge thy brother?
......or why dost thou set at nought thy brother?
......for we shall all stand before the judgment seat of Christ.
Romans 14:11 For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord,
......every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.
Romans 14:12 So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.
Now, look at the CONTEXT of Isaiah who also said that it was not GOD who created the unholy mess in Genesis
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near;
......yea, let them take counsel together:
......who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time?
......have not I the LORD [Jehovah]? and there is no God else beside me;
......a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
I didn't need to consult another preacher to understand NONE BESIDE ME.
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth:
......for I am God, and there is none else.
Now, without upsetting people with quotes from higher level scholarship:
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the WORD [Dabar, Logos]
......and is gone out of MY MOUTH in righteousness, and shall not return,
......That unto ME every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
ONLY AFTER JESUS FULFILLED GOD'S MISSION: Jesus said that HE did not speak on His own; the Father breathed (spirit) and Jesus ARTICULATED. Jesus was therefore NOT Jehovah God.
The, after the changed Jesus assumed the COMMISSION as Holy Spirit enthroned as God's RIGHT HAND did Paul say
Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him,
......and given him a name which is above every name:
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven,
......and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess
......that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
OTHER EXAMPLES:
Jesus in the flesh was the SEED of Abraham and David: Jesus was/is NOT Jehovah.
Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself,
......The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
......that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified,
......both Lord and Christ.
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Who hath wrought and done it, calling the generations from the beginning? I the LORD, the first, and with the last; I am he.
(Isa 41:4)
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
(Rev 1:11)
Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
(Isa 48:12)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
(Rev 22:13)
Gee, how many firsts and lasts /alphas and omegas are there? It must be the same God.
(oh yes, Jesus is speaking in Revelation)
(Isa 41:4)
Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
(Rev 1:11)
Hearken unto me, O Jacob and Israel, my called; I am he; I am the first, I also am the last.
(Isa 48:12)
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
(Rev 22:13)
Gee, how many firsts and lasts /alphas and omegas are there? It must be the same God.
(oh yes, Jesus is speaking in Revelation)
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Good to hear you are thinking about actually studying the Bible, KSublett. I am sure you will then see the truth that Jesus Christ is fully God and fully man.
I recommend you go with Bill Mounce. He has a complete system with books, CD's for pronunciation, and videos on-line flash cards and an on-line word games and studies. For Hebrew, he also offers a course by Gary Pratico, which is very thorough.
Good luck studying. Mounce proves over and over in the Greek exegesis at the beginning of each chapter that Jesus is God. I hope to hear from you when you have completed the courses. Then we can agree about what the Bible really says, because sometimes it is hard for people like you to see it in the English, since you get stuck!
I recommend you go with Bill Mounce. He has a complete system with books, CD's for pronunciation, and videos on-line flash cards and an on-line word games and studies. For Hebrew, he also offers a course by Gary Pratico, which is very thorough.
Good luck studying. Mounce proves over and over in the Greek exegesis at the beginning of each chapter that Jesus is God. I hope to hear from you when you have completed the courses. Then we can agree about what the Bible really says, because sometimes it is hard for people like you to see it in the English, since you get stuck!
Without Latin you are lost because most historic scholars including the Restoration Scholars were trained from their youth in Greek and Latin: Alexander Campbell's children were home-schooled with about 3 hours a day: why, that would cost you a quarter of a million dollars these days.
The Greek and the Latin say the same thing; Jesus was giving the AUTHORITY when God MADE HIM TO BE both Lord and Christ. According to the Law of Silence and the CENI principle that must mean that Jesus of Nazareth was neither Lord nor Christ much less Theos before He was MADE TO BE or giving that power. He did not BEGIN to exercise the authority because the ALPHA or first principle is the WORD of God. The command was to PREACH the Word (only) by READING the Word for comfort and doctrine--from the wilderness onward.
Jesus said that truth had been hidden in PARABLES from the foundation of the world: In Isaiah 48 this is to set a trap for those who sell the free Word and claiming authority.
alpha , to, indecl. (pl. A.“ta a.” Arist.Metaph.1087a8),
2. T-square, Eustr. in EN74.2.
4. metaph., to alpha kai to ō the first and last, Apoc.1.8, al.
The LOGOS or WORD is the Regulative Principle or Governing Principle. God ARTICULATED through Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus teachings therefore are the FIRST PRINCIPLES which does not translate to be GOD: that's preacher school stuff.
Aristot. Met. 14.1087a All thinkers make the first principles contraries; as in the realm of natural objects, so too in respect of the unchangeable substances.Now if nothing can be prior to the first principle of all things, that first principle cannot be first principle if it is an attribute of something else. This would be as absurd as to say that "white" is the first principle, not qua anything else but qua white, and yet that it is predicable of a subject, and is white because it is an attribute of something else; because the latter will be prior to it.Moreover, all things are generated from contraries as from a substrate, and therefore contraries must most certainly have a substrate.
The Greek and the Latin say the same thing; Jesus was giving the AUTHORITY when God MADE HIM TO BE both Lord and Christ. According to the Law of Silence and the CENI principle that must mean that Jesus of Nazareth was neither Lord nor Christ much less Theos before He was MADE TO BE or giving that power. He did not BEGIN to exercise the authority because the ALPHA or first principle is the WORD of God. The command was to PREACH the Word (only) by READING the Word for comfort and doctrine--from the wilderness onward.
Jesus said that truth had been hidden in PARABLES from the foundation of the world: In Isaiah 48 this is to set a trap for those who sell the free Word and claiming authority.
alpha , to, indecl. (pl. A.“ta a.” Arist.Metaph.1087a8),
2. T-square, Eustr. in EN74.2.
4. metaph., to alpha kai to ō the first and last, Apoc.1.8, al.
The LOGOS or WORD is the Regulative Principle or Governing Principle. God ARTICULATED through Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus teachings therefore are the FIRST PRINCIPLES which does not translate to be GOD: that's preacher school stuff.
Aristot. Met. 14.1087a All thinkers make the first principles contraries; as in the realm of natural objects, so too in respect of the unchangeable substances.Now if nothing can be prior to the first principle of all things, that first principle cannot be first principle if it is an attribute of something else. This would be as absurd as to say that "white" is the first principle, not qua anything else but qua white, and yet that it is predicable of a subject, and is white because it is an attribute of something else; because the latter will be prior to it.Moreover, all things are generated from contraries as from a substrate, and therefore contraries must most certainly have a substrate.
Theotes or the FULLNESS of Deity dwelled in the MAN Jesus of Nazareth: that does not meant that the Almighty Who fills the whole universe dwelled INSIDE of Jesus of Nazareth.
If He was JEHOVAH and Jesus died on the cross, did the ONE GOD THE FATHER also die and rest in the tomb for three days? For goodness sake, WHO was governing the UNIVERSE?
If the FATHER is greater than the SON and the ONE GOD THE FATHER dwelled INSIDE of Jesus of Nazareth, doesn't that get a bit crowded?
When Jesus of Nazareth prayed to the ONE GOD THE FATHER was He in deed of medication?
People who sell stuff always begin with a preconception: who would sell stuff without having a VIEWPOINT. I just read the text which says that Jesus of Nazareth was from the SEED of Abraham, David etc. Messiah must be a MAN. Since Abraham and all of us are SONS of God did Jesus of Nazareth plant the SEED from ALL ETERNITY PAST?
If Jesus was GOD and Jesus was the SON of God doesn't that get a bit messy? Trinitarianism flies out of Sophia as the female daughter of a mother goddess. That is why all pagan triads consist of a father active with the mother (spirit, dove) to produce a real son. This trinity was worshipped under Apis the bull calf at Mount Sinai. I would worry about making God into an idol:
If He was JEHOVAH and Jesus died on the cross, did the ONE GOD THE FATHER also die and rest in the tomb for three days? For goodness sake, WHO was governing the UNIVERSE?
If the FATHER is greater than the SON and the ONE GOD THE FATHER dwelled INSIDE of Jesus of Nazareth, doesn't that get a bit crowded?
When Jesus of Nazareth prayed to the ONE GOD THE FATHER was He in deed of medication?
People who sell stuff always begin with a preconception: who would sell stuff without having a VIEWPOINT. I just read the text which says that Jesus of Nazareth was from the SEED of Abraham, David etc. Messiah must be a MAN. Since Abraham and all of us are SONS of God did Jesus of Nazareth plant the SEED from ALL ETERNITY PAST?
If Jesus was GOD and Jesus was the SON of God doesn't that get a bit messy? Trinitarianism flies out of Sophia as the female daughter of a mother goddess. That is why all pagan triads consist of a father active with the mother (spirit, dove) to produce a real son. This trinity was worshipped under Apis the bull calf at Mount Sinai. I would worry about making God into an idol:
J
your profile pic is wrong...God the Father is the Supreme Factor and from it everything is revealed.
So its God the Father that contains God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Do not underestimate YHWH,He(denotes Supreme Authority) alone is Supreme Source that dwells in Light where no one can enter.Others come below Him(It-THE I AM THAT I AM).
God bless.
So its God the Father that contains God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.
Do not underestimate YHWH,He(denotes Supreme Authority) alone is Supreme Source that dwells in Light where no one can enter.Others come below Him(It-THE I AM THAT I AM).
God bless.
J
Theotes or the FULLNESS of Deity dwelled in the MAN Jesus of Nazareth: that does not meant that the Almighty Who fills the whole universe dwelled INSIDE of Jesus of Nazareth.
If He was JEHOVAH and Jesus died on the cross, did the ONE GOD THE FATHER also die and rest in the tomb for three days? For goodness sake, WHO was governing the UNIVERSE?
If the FATHER is greater than the SON and the ONE GOD THE FATHER dwelled INSIDE of Jesus of Nazareth, doesn't that get a bit crowded?
When Jesus of Nazareth prayed to the ONE GOD THE FATHER was He in deed of medication?
People who sell stuff always begin with a preconception: who would sell stuff without having a VIEWPOINT. I just read the text which says that Jesus of Nazareth was from the SEED of Abraham, David etc. Messiah must be a MAN. Since Abraham and all of us are SONS of God did Jesus of Nazareth plant the SEED from ALL ETERNITY PAST?
If Jesus was GOD and Jesus was the SON of God doesn't that get a bit messy? Trinitarianism flies out of Sophia as the female daughter of a mother goddess. That is why all pagan triads consist of a father active with the mother (spirit, dove) to produce a real son. This trinity was worshipped under Apis the bull calf at Mount Sinai. I would worry about making God into an idol:
If He was JEHOVAH and Jesus died on the cross, did the ONE GOD THE FATHER also die and rest in the tomb for three days? For goodness sake, WHO was governing the UNIVERSE?
If the FATHER is greater than the SON and the ONE GOD THE FATHER dwelled INSIDE of Jesus of Nazareth, doesn't that get a bit crowded?
When Jesus of Nazareth prayed to the ONE GOD THE FATHER was He in deed of medication?
People who sell stuff always begin with a preconception: who would sell stuff without having a VIEWPOINT. I just read the text which says that Jesus of Nazareth was from the SEED of Abraham, David etc. Messiah must be a MAN. Since Abraham and all of us are SONS of God did Jesus of Nazareth plant the SEED from ALL ETERNITY PAST?
If Jesus was GOD and Jesus was the SON of God doesn't that get a bit messy? Trinitarianism flies out of Sophia as the female daughter of a mother goddess. That is why all pagan triads consist of a father active with the mother (spirit, dove) to produce a real son. This trinity was worshipped under Apis the bull calf at Mount Sinai. I would worry about making God into an idol:
Revelation chapter 1:8 KJV
I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
J
Annata,
i understand your confusion there.
i will be Praying for you.Right now am not in a situation where i feel proud of spiritual life because attacks are more when you try to strive forward in Jesus.But still i will Pray for you in my Prayer time.Somethings are better understood when God unbinds what that is bound inside our minds.
Heavenly Revelations come from God
God Bless
i understand your confusion there.
i will be Praying for you.Right now am not in a situation where i feel proud of spiritual life because attacks are more when you try to strive forward in Jesus.But still i will Pray for you in my Prayer time.Somethings are better understood when God unbinds what that is bound inside our minds.
Heavenly Revelations come from God
God Bless
. . .
Now, look at the CONTEXT of Isaiah who also said that it was not GOD who created the unholy mess in Genesis
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near;
......yea, let them take counsel together:
......who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time?
......have not I the LORD [Jehovah]? and there is no God else beside me;
......a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
I didn't need to consult another preacher to understand NONE BESIDE ME.
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth:
......for I am God, and there is none else.
Now, without upsetting people with quotes from higher level scholarship:
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the WORD [Dabar, Logos]
......and is gone out of MY MOUTH in righteousness, and shall not return,
......That unto ME every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
ONLY AFTER JESUS FULFILLED GOD'S MISSION: Jesus said that HE did not speak on His own; the Father breathed (spirit) and Jesus ARTICULATED. Jesus was therefore NOT Jehovah God.
The, after the changed Jesus assumed the COMMISSION as Holy Spirit enthroned as God's RIGHT HAND did Paul say
Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him,
......and given him a name which is above every name:
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven,
......and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess
......that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
OTHER EXAMPLES:
Jesus in the flesh was the SEED of Abraham and David: Jesus was/is NOT Jehovah.
Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself,
......The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
......that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified,
......both Lord and Christ.
Now, look at the CONTEXT of Isaiah who also said that it was not GOD who created the unholy mess in Genesis
Isaiah 45:21 Tell ye, and bring them near;
......yea, let them take counsel together:
......who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time?
......have not I the LORD [Jehovah]? and there is no God else beside me;
......a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
I didn't need to consult another preacher to understand NONE BESIDE ME.
Isaiah 45:22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth:
......for I am God, and there is none else.
Now, without upsetting people with quotes from higher level scholarship:
Isaiah 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the WORD [Dabar, Logos]
......and is gone out of MY MOUTH in righteousness, and shall not return,
......That unto ME every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.
ONLY AFTER JESUS FULFILLED GOD'S MISSION: Jesus said that HE did not speak on His own; the Father breathed (spirit) and Jesus ARTICULATED. Jesus was therefore NOT Jehovah God.
The, after the changed Jesus assumed the COMMISSION as Holy Spirit enthroned as God's RIGHT HAND did Paul say
Philippians 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him,
......and given him a name which is above every name:
Philippians 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven,
......and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess
......that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
OTHER EXAMPLES:
Jesus in the flesh was the SEED of Abraham and David: Jesus was/is NOT Jehovah.
Acts 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself,
......The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
Acts 2:35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
Acts 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly,
......that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified,
......both Lord and Christ.
Many gods? Not according to the Bible:
2 Chronicles 13:9 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] Didn’t you banish the priests of Yahweh, the descendants of Aaron and the Levites, and make your own priests like the peoples of ⌊other⌋ lands do? Whoever comes to ordain himself with a young bull and seven rams may become a priest of what are not gods.
Jeremiah 2:11 (HCSB)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Has a nation ⌊ever⌋ exchanged its gods? (But they were not gods!) Yet My people have exchanged their Glory for useless idols.
Isaiah 43:10-12 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] “You are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration— “and My servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe Me and understand that I am He. No god was formed before Me, and there will be none after Me.
[SUP]11 [/SUP] I, I am Yahweh, and there is no other Savior but Me.
[SUP]12 [/SUP] I alone declared, saved, and proclaimed— and not some foreign god among you. So you are My witnesses”— ⌊this is⌋ the LORD’s declaration—“and I am God.
Romans 10:9 (NASB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
John 2:19-21 (NKJV)
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Jesus answered and said to them, "Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up."
[SUP]20 [/SUP] Then the Jews said, "It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?"
[SUP]21 [/SUP] But He was speaking of the temple of His body.
The difference between Jesus and us is:
We have a human spirit that was created by the CREATOR;
while the Spirit in the human body of JESUS IS THE CREATOR.
J
Its not about trinitarian,the question is different.
"Hate say this Original poster, but you will hear some people say yes, that Jesus is God.....quoting all kinds of verses and taking the whole Trinity approach and related scriptures. Then you will hear people saying that Jesus is the Son of God, God is one....he can not be two or three, God is Jesus's father...... and then posting related scriptures to that. This will probably continue for many many pages and there will be no agreements between the two camps, as both sides are utterly convinced that they are the ones that are right." - your words.
Do you have a direct answer otherwise it creates more confusion.
What is He according to you,because at the end of the day He is going to judge all including you...is that confusing or based on a man's point of view...?
"Hate say this Original poster, but you will hear some people say yes, that Jesus is God.....quoting all kinds of verses and taking the whole Trinity approach and related scriptures. Then you will hear people saying that Jesus is the Son of God, God is one....he can not be two or three, God is Jesus's father...... and then posting related scriptures to that. This will probably continue for many many pages and there will be no agreements between the two camps, as both sides are utterly convinced that they are the ones that are right." - your words.
Do you have a direct answer otherwise it creates more confusion.
What is He according to you,because at the end of the day He is going to judge all including you...is that confusing or based on a man's point of view...?
J
Sophia1993 ,
i remember reading your testimony regarding a spiritual attack sometime before this doubt came to you.
this is the link:-
http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/87903-terrified-right-now.html
Think its related.
This doubt
that you have might be satan's plot.
So Pray to God because satan's ultimate aim is to pluck us out of Faith in Jesus and not make us sin.
Because satan knows that when we constantly run to God sin looses its power on us and Holy Spirit fills us..
So devil's only shot is make us quit following Jesus
So Pray a lot.God will remove all confusions.
i remember reading your testimony regarding a spiritual attack sometime before this doubt came to you.
this is the link:-
http://christianchat.com/miscellaneous/87903-terrified-right-now.html
Think its related.
This doubt
that you have might be satan's plot.
So Pray to God because satan's ultimate aim is to pluck us out of Faith in Jesus and not make us sin.
Because satan knows that when we constantly run to God sin looses its power on us and Holy Spirit fills us..
So devil's only shot is make us quit following Jesus
So Pray a lot.God will remove all confusions.