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Not that I have already obtained all this, or have already been made perfect, but I press on to take hold of that for which Christ Jesus took hold of me. [SUP]13[/SUP]Brothers, I do not consider myself yet to have taken hold of it. But one thing I do: Forgetting what is behind and straining toward what is ahead, [SUP]14 [/SUP]I press on toward the goal to win the prize for which God has called me heavenward in Christ Jesus. [SUP]15[/SUP]All of us who are mature should take such a view of things.
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"The word "backslide" literally means "turn back" or "turn away" (from God, 1 Ki 11:9; from our first love, Rev 2:4; or from the gospel, Gal 1:6, 7; 3:1-5; to Satan, 1 Tim 5:15; to evil, Psa 125:5; or to the world, 2 Tim 4:10). Scripture metaphorically describes the backslidden state as: serving two masters, forsaking the Lord, going our own way, leaving our first love, forgetting God, falling away, turning aside ("like a deceitful bow," Jer 14:7), growing cold, departing from the faith, putting a hand to the plow and looking back (Lk 9:62), "salt that has lost its savour" (Mat 5:13), "a dog returning to his vomit" (Prov 26:11), a dead branch (Jn 15:6; Heb 6:8)."
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"The word "backslide" literally means "turn back" or "turn away" (from God, 1 Ki 11:9; from our first love, Rev 2:4; or from the gospel, Gal 1:6, 7; 3:1-5; to Satan, 1 Tim 5:15; to evil, Psa 125:5; or to the world, 2 Tim 4:10). Scripture metaphorically describes the backslidden state as: serving two masters, forsaking the Lord, going our own way, leaving our first love, forgetting God, falling away, turning aside ("like a deceitful bow," Jer 14:7), growing cold, departing from the faith, putting a hand to the plow and looking back (Lk 9:62), "salt that has lost its savour" (Mat 5:13), "a dog returning to his vomit" (Prov 26:11), a dead branch (Jn 15:6; Heb 6:8)."
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Once saved always saved to those who have truely repented and come to Christ in faith is security based on the promises of Christ and the father, based solely on his sons death.
OSAS to those who have not repented. but merely believe (as those James spoke of) is a false security, because they think they are ok, when they have failed to repent. and are still living in sin.
OSAS to those who have not repented. but merely believe (as those James spoke of) is a false security, because they think they are ok, when they have failed to repent. and are still living in sin.
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He told them this to prove a point, They thought they were righteous by the law, which would grant them entrance to heaven by their own perfection. thus negating the need for Christ (and why they rejected him to begin with, He told them they needed a savior, and they did not like that at all! But they still did not see it, even after he told them these things, they got more angry!
Whether he has justice or love or not. If he kept his jewish faith, he would still die eternally. For without Christ, everyone will die.
Whether he has justice or love or not. If he kept his jewish faith, he would still die eternally. For without Christ, everyone will die.
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agreed, the problem is, we will never be obedient to deserve salvation. The only way to do this is to be like Christ, sinless since birth. Thus, even after we are saved, we could still never earn salvation, because no matter how good we are, we could still never be good enough to earn salvation. so apart form the blood of christ we are doomed forever.
Those who do not accept they are forgiven completely are people who would add to the work of christ things like religious ceremony and sacrament. or works of any kind. they try to perfect their salvation. because they do not trust Christ. These people have NEVER believes in osas. nor did they make it up.
Those who do not accept they are forgiven completely are people who would add to the work of christ things like religious ceremony and sacrament. or works of any kind. they try to perfect their salvation. because they do not trust Christ. These people have NEVER believes in osas. nor did they make it up.
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what happens to them? the same that happens to those who lie, cheat, steel. who chose to trust self at any point of the day over humility. Who does anything which is sin.
If your trying to be saved by law like they were, your bound to keep the whole law, which you have already failed. And thus are doomed.
If your believe in Christ in faith, and received his gift. and you do not do those things, you will be chastened as a child. But you will not be cast out of the family.
If your trying to be saved by law like they were, your bound to keep the whole law, which you have already failed. And thus are doomed.
If your believe in Christ in faith, and received his gift. and you do not do those things, you will be chastened as a child. But you will not be cast out of the family.
Those who remain in the Jewish faith did see the justice of God, His wrath and judgment. And those today who are not in Christ are also in the same boat, whether it's pour out now or later, the day of judgment. I'm not sure if this answers your question, because I'm not sure if I understand your question.
heeh, seems like EG does tho...thanks bud!
heeh, seems like EG does tho...thanks bud!
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Jesus told the disciples,to"love"one another,who are Jesus's disciples?Are all men disciples?No,they are not.
The Apostle Paul,told the Thessalonians...1 Thess. 5/21..."Prove all things;hold fast that which is good".
Paul in his letter to the Ephesians,speaking about putting on the armor of God,Eph.chap.6 verse,12"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,but against principalities,against powers,against the rulers of the darkness of this world,against spiritual wickedness in high places".
So confronting or exposing these who are not disciples,is separate from"loving one another",and the term"bashing"is a catch all term,without a definitive descriptive meaning.
The Apostle Paul,told the Thessalonians...1 Thess. 5/21..."Prove all things;hold fast that which is good".
Paul in his letter to the Ephesians,speaking about putting on the armor of God,Eph.chap.6 verse,12"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood,but against principalities,against powers,against the rulers of the darkness of this world,against spiritual wickedness in high places".
So confronting or exposing these who are not disciples,is separate from"loving one another",and the term"bashing"is a catch all term,without a definitive descriptive meaning.