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the men who do this is those who have issues with it and look to justify porn because they have not gotten the full victory over it. This is an on going battle with men and why not? The Devil has had so much success with it. David, Solomon, Samson, men in the church the list is long. Porn has many close relatives all stemming from LUST. Those who say it is art just have to look at the motivating factors of what is porn today and anyone with a hint of discernment would see porn today doesn't comfort, edify. It is self gratifying . That is sin.
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I am confused how it can NOT be considered cheating. When men are watching it or looking at it, are they not imagining being with the woman? This is adultery of the mind, if not exactly of the body. Imagining being with another person other than your spouse is adultery too.
Studies have shown that watching porn actually makes you stupid, so it is not only sinful but brain damaging.
Studies have shown that watching porn actually makes you stupid, so it is not only sinful but brain damaging.
Since sex appeal is everywhere and a cruel standard for women as well as men to strive for when it will not bring them happiness; as character is above intellect; so is character above beauty.
Like it or not, christians are being persecuted passively in America and we need our guards up while we rely on Jesus Christ as our Good Shepherd to walk us through this valley of death...because...
1 Peter 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.[SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
So let us trust Jesus Christ to help us not feed the dog in us; the old nature of sin. When we play with desires in our hearts and it gets burning...then we need Jesus to help see the escape for us to get our minds & sights on other worthy things, and trust him to help us not play with those desires again.
James 1:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.[SUP]16 [/SUP]Do not err, my beloved brethren.
1 Corinthians 10:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.[SUP]13 [/SUP]There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Romans 13:[SUP]13[/SUP]Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.[SUP]14 [/SUP]But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Luke 11:[SUP]33 [/SUP]No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.[SUP]34 [/SUP]The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.[SUP]35 [/SUP]Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
2 Peter 2:14Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
So where our eye is, there is where our heart shall dwell on. Remember that Jesus died for sins such as these. Indeed, do we yield our eyes to sin by lusting after and approving the pride of life for the outward appearance as set by society's standard, or do we lean on Christ to love one another & not lust in spite of the outward appearances? Since the eye is a member of our body, let us lean on him to not yield it as an instrument to sin.
Romans 6:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.[SUP]14 [/SUP]For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Like it or not, christians are being persecuted passively in America and we need our guards up while we rely on Jesus Christ as our Good Shepherd to walk us through this valley of death...because...
1 Peter 2:[SUP]15 [/SUP]Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.[SUP]16 [/SUP]For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.[SUP]17 [/SUP]And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.
So let us trust Jesus Christ to help us not feed the dog in us; the old nature of sin. When we play with desires in our hearts and it gets burning...then we need Jesus to help see the escape for us to get our minds & sights on other worthy things, and trust him to help us not play with those desires again.
James 1:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:[SUP]14 [/SUP]But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.[SUP]15 [/SUP]Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.[SUP]16 [/SUP]Do not err, my beloved brethren.
1 Corinthians 10:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Wherefore let him that thinketh he standeth take heed lest he fall.[SUP]13 [/SUP]There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
Romans 13:[SUP]13[/SUP]Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.[SUP]14 [/SUP]But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.
Luke 11:[SUP]33 [/SUP]No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light.[SUP]34 [/SUP]The light of the body is the eye: therefore when thine eye is single, thy whole body also is full of light; but when thine eye is evil, thy body also is full of darkness.[SUP]35 [/SUP]Take heed therefore that the light which is in thee be not darkness.
2 Peter 2:14Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
So where our eye is, there is where our heart shall dwell on. Remember that Jesus died for sins such as these. Indeed, do we yield our eyes to sin by lusting after and approving the pride of life for the outward appearance as set by society's standard, or do we lean on Christ to love one another & not lust in spite of the outward appearances? Since the eye is a member of our body, let us lean on him to not yield it as an instrument to sin.
Romans 6:[SUP]12 [/SUP]Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.[SUP]13 [/SUP]Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.[SUP]14 [/SUP]For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
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More like asking if I eat my PopTart before breakfast is it stealing. But, hey. Keep going. Y'all are having so much fun with this. You don't really need to find out what's making the asker ask or anything behind the question. And it's oh so much easier to deal with a sin you don't have, then puff up about it.
T'is better to look right, than be right.
T'is better to look right, than be right.
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Matt. 5:[FONT="]27 “You have heard that it was said to those of old, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’ [/FONT][FONT="][/FONT][FONT="]28 But I say to you that whoever looks at a woman to lust for her has already committed adultery with her in his heart.[/FONT]
Now, to me, this is porn of the mind.
Soooo, do you want to admit that 95% of guys cheat, and the other 5% lie?
This is the ramifications of what everyone is teaching.
Now, to me, this is porn of the mind.
Soooo, do you want to admit that 95% of guys cheat, and the other 5% lie?
This is the ramifications of what everyone is teaching.
Is it not obvious what Christ was trying to tell everybody when He was here? Before Christ there was no Holy Spirit. The Ten Commandments were never given as a set of rules to try to abide by to receive the resurrection. It was list of things that show men what they should feel guilty about. Look at the Vikings. It was part of their culture to kill, steal, rape and pillage. These things are not intrensically written on our conscience to avoid. It is carnal desire to take what and who we want. The flesh is driven by chemicals that will make us want these things in increasing amounts. Look at Solomon and every other leader in history. When there is nobody to say no, the flesh will automatically think yes, hunger increases with surplus. The Commandments were given to write a conscience on the minds of men because the Holy Spirit was not delivered to write it on their hearts. Anything that feeds the flesh strengthens the flesh and makes it harder to walk in the Spirit. We are supposed to be reborn in the Spirit, and kill the desires of the flesh. When Christ tried to tell everybody that lusting after women is also adultery He trying to get them to open there eyes to the fact that it's not the rule that makes you Holy it's the desire. If your desire is about flesh then you are already dead. Your mind needs to be on spiritual matters. It's about chemicals and energy. Chemicals of all animals cause them to want to eat and procreate. They all balance eachother in the food chain. Man has no natural enemy so those who are most powerful will corrupt all of mankind. There is nothing to balance the lust of man except the conscious of man. The Spirit has given us intrensic conscience, something that wasn't there before.
The context of your point is from a carnal mind set. another way to say it would be Whiskey was created to get drunk , Hand guns were made to kill, and Planned Parenthood was setup to lower the population of Blacks in NEW York in 1922. And Porn was created to make money on the exploitation of women by men who lack self-control.
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No it is not about asking the person what they have issues with it is the context of historically what porn has produced. And more importantly what is Godly and what is not. why do you think people are puffed up about it? no one has said or suggested anything about anyone. again it is not a sin to be tempted it is a sin to be a willful participant. And I see many opinions but it really comes down to this and I will ask you if you don't mind . Does porn bring glory to God?
Maybe I missed it but I am surprised no one quoted where Jesus says if you "LOOK" with lust you have committed adultery in your heart. It's not about what acts we do it's the "thoughts and intents of the heart" ... looking at anyone but your spouse with lust is adultery.
from someone who's been hurt by a husband who can't seem to stop viewing it I suggest and hope you can stop. Have healthy thoughts and a healthy view of humans - made in God's image.
from someone who's been hurt by a husband who can't seem to stop viewing it I suggest and hope you can stop. Have healthy thoughts and a healthy view of humans - made in God's image.
the context of Matthew 5:27 was men who thought they were self righteous just because they have not done the physical act. Jesus was clear that the issues is with the heart . My Bible says all have lied men and women. and There are none righteous NO not one. That includes me and you.
Now one can be tempted with porn and not sin, how do I know this ? because Jesus was tempted in all points as man yet without sin. The creation of Porn was not for edification, or comfort. Nor is it something that a Christian man should be involved with if he wants his witness to be effective for God.
Now one can be tempted with porn and not sin, how do I know this ? because Jesus was tempted in all points as man yet without sin. The creation of Porn was not for edification, or comfort. Nor is it something that a Christian man should be involved with if he wants his witness to be effective for God.
True and I understand the struggle with it. It's portrayed as a bigger battle than all other sins and in some cases it may be. But we should become sensitive to all sin not just the ones that make us "feel really really bad" the longer I walk with Him each sin looks more equal to the other no matter who, no matter when or how. All forgiven...one day to be no more.
But porn doesn't just hurt the sinner, can devastatingly hurt a spouse. Again from experience, it's like rejection, hate, adultery, and more bad emotions all rolled into one when I would discover something. Or walk in. Like...I'm right here. Saying "sorry" immediately after it's like then why do it? It is a pretty good picture of how we treat our relationship with God. Sin, then "oops sorry"
But porn doesn't just hurt the sinner, can devastatingly hurt a spouse. Again from experience, it's like rejection, hate, adultery, and more bad emotions all rolled into one when I would discover something. Or walk in. Like...I'm right here. Saying "sorry" immediately after it's like then why do it? It is a pretty good picture of how we treat our relationship with God. Sin, then "oops sorry"
Does porn cause one to be defiled?
Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
We need to be on guard and protect what we think about.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Php 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
We need to be on guard and protect what we think about.
For the cause of Christ
Roger